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Trekgeekscott -> RE: Former Twins News (7/18/2018 10:37:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan "I'm legendary in Australia" So is Paul Hogan. That's really not all that impressive.

SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/18/2018 10:41:53 AM)
Kinda where I was headed ......

Mr. Ed -> RE: Former Twins News (7/25/2018 10:38:56 AM)
Phils 7/LAD 4 in 16 innings Walk off 3 run HR by Trevor Plouffe

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/25/2018 10:39:48 AM)
[&:] Beat you by a second, Ed. Streaming Mackey & Judd? [:D]

Mr. Ed -> RE: Former Twins News (7/25/2018 10:43:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan [&:] Beat you by a second, Ed. Streaming Mackey & Judd? [:D] Nope.saw it on a twitter feed

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/25/2018 11:08:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan [&:] Beat you by a second, Ed. Streaming Mackey & Judd? [:D] Nope.saw it on a twitter feed Oh, cool. I posted it just as I heard 1500 talking about it.

kgdabom -> RE: Former Twins News (7/25/2018 12:19:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan "I'm legendary in Australia" So is Paul Hogan. That's really not all that impressive. Paul Hogan and Crocodile Dundee rock.

kgdabom -> RE: Former Twins News (7/28/2018 7:37:31 PM)
I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF.

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/29/2018 2:34:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention.

kgdabom -> RE: Former Twins News (7/29/2018 12:32:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right?

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/29/2018 12:54:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now.

kgdabom -> RE: Former Twins News (7/29/2018 3:34:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now. So the first 15 years used to be media vote and now it's ten? Was it some old timers committee that got Jack in?

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/29/2018 6:05:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now. So the first 15 years used to be media vote and now it's ten? Was it some old timers committee that got Jack in? Yes, veterans committee.

kgdabom -> RE: Former Twins News (7/29/2018 11:31:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now. So the first 15 years used to be media vote and now it's ten? Was it some old timers committee that got Jack in? Yes, veterans committee. It was strictly political Morris not being in the Hall. He had the numbers and a ten inning shutout in game seven of the world series.

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 8:16:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now. So the first 15 years used to be media vote and now it's ten? Was it some old timers committee that got Jack in? Yes, veterans committee. It was strictly political Morris not being in the Hall. He had the numbers and a ten inning shutout in game seven of the world series. I don't think so. Pitchers of his era with better JAWS: Saberhagen Cone Stieb Dennis Martinez Hershiser None of those guys are in the HOF. The election of Morris to the HOF is quite controversial. Definitely the most controversial of the 6 inducted this year.

SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 8:32:17 AM)
Lots of Twins love at Cooperstown Morris and Thome, both very deserving, both very proud to have been Twins. Fun to see.

TJSweens -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 8:50:02 AM)
JAWS is a glorified version of WAR. In other words, it's another worthless piece of shit stat.

Steve Lentz -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 8:53:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan Lots of Twins love at Cooperstown Morris and Thome, both very deserving, both very proud to have been Twins. Fun to see. LOVE THE LOVE!

Phil Riewer -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 8:57:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now. So the first 15 years used to be media vote and now it's ten? Was it some old timers committee that got Jack in? Yes, veterans committee. It was strictly political Morris not being in the Hall. He had the numbers and a ten inning shutout in game seven of the world series. I don't think so. Pitchers of his era with better JAWS: Saberhagen Cone Stieb Dennis Martinez Hershiser None of those guys are in the HOF. The election of Morris to the HOF is quite controversial. Definitely the most controversial of the 6 inducted this year. Hard to keep out Morris...won a WS with Detroit in 84, he led MN to a WS in 91, signed with Toronto in 92 and helped them to a WS, and then they won another in 93 even though he didn't pitch as well....in addition he was one of the best pitchers in the 80s. 175 complete games.

kgdabom -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 9:12:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I don't pay much attention to baseball pomp and such, but I just found out a great injustice has been corrected. Jack Morris is now in the HoF. You proved one thing....you ain't paying attention. Yep I missed it until I didn't miss it. I think him not being in the hall was a travesty. I guess he was a surly guy with the media and the media votes on the hall right? For 15 years, yes. But down to only 10 years now. So the first 15 years used to be media vote and now it's ten? Was it some old timers committee that got Jack in? Yes, veterans committee. It was strictly political Morris not being in the Hall. He had the numbers and a ten inning shutout in game seven of the world series. I don't think so. Pitchers of his era with better JAWS: Saberhagen Cone Stieb Dennis Martinez Hershiser None of those guys are in the HOF. The election of Morris to the HOF is quite controversial. Definitely the most controversial of the 6 inducted this year. Hard to keep out Morris...won a WS with Detroit in 84, he led MN to a WS in 91, signed with Toronto in 92 and helped them to a WS, and then they won another in 93 even though he didn't pitch as well....in addition he was one of the best pitchers in the 80s. 175 complete games. I look at that list of pitchers and say Duh of course Morris is more deserving with the possible exception of Hershiser. I know he had some great years. I don't know how long he sustained excellence. Morris's game 7 ten inning shutout is freaking legend and that differentiates him from a lot of pitchers.

twinsfan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 9:21:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens JAWS is a glorified version of WAR. In other words, it's another worthless piece of shit stat. Top 25 JAWS left fielders: 1 Barry Bonds 2 Ted Williams HOF 3 Rickey Henderson HOF 4 Carl Yastrzemski HOF 5 Pete Rose 6 Ed Delahanty HOF 7 Al Simmons HOF 8 Tim Raines HOF 9 Goose Goslin HOF 10 Manny Ramirez 11 Billy Williams HOF 12 Fred Clarke HOF 13 Jesse Burkett HOF 14 Sherry Magee 15 Willie Stargell HOF 16 Joe Medwick HOF 17 Zack Wheat HOF 18 Bob Johnson 19 Ralph Kiner HOF 20 Lance Berkman 21 Jose Cruz 22 Minnie Minoso 23 Joe Kelley HOF 24 Luis Gonzalez 25 Bobby Veach Yup, you got it right. Worthless. It only nailed it about as well as it can be nailed. Your exaggerations really piss me off.

SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 9:48:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens JAWS is a glorified version of WAR. In other words, it's another worthless piece of shit stat. Top 25 JAWS left fielders: 1 Barry Bonds 2 Ted Williams HOF 3 Rickey Henderson HOF 4 Carl Yastrzemski HOF 5 Pete Rose 6 Ed Delahanty HOF 7 Al Simmons HOF 8 Tim Raines HOF 9 Goose Goslin HOF 10 Manny Ramirez 11 Billy Williams HOF 12 Fred Clarke HOF 13 Jesse Burkett HOF 14 Sherry Magee 15 Willie Stargell HOF 16 Joe Medwick HOF 17 Zack Wheat HOF 18 Bob Johnson 19 Ralph Kiner HOF 20 Lance Berkman 21 Jose Cruz 22 Minnie Minoso 23 Joe Kelley HOF 24 Luis Gonzalez 25 Bobby Veach Yup, you got it right. Worthless. It only nailed it about as well as it can be nailed. Your exaggerations really piss me off. wth Matt ... When your #1 and #5 guys aren't in the HOF, maybe its NOT all you think it is ..... [;)]

SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 9:53:11 AM)
Been wondering if this week's Matt rants about Morris not belonging were simply him rattling the cages , but it appears he's serious. I told him the other day and I'll say it again Jacks career basically was during the time I was most-involved with the game as a fan, and his HOF-worthiness, imo, was NEVER in doubt. But I'm not a number guy, Matt is. This one really highlights the differences in the way we look at things. No-brainer for me, a no-thinker even. Long period of time where if you let me choose one guy to start a must-win game, jack would have been that guy. Even when his numbers weren't as eye-popping as most "great" pitchers, he was to me, a PLAYER you wanted involved, and if he was, his team was most-likely going to win.

TJSweens -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 10:01:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens JAWS is a glorified version of WAR. In other words, it's another worthless piece of shit stat. Top 25 JAWS left fielders: 1 Barry Bonds 2 Ted Williams HOF 3 Rickey Henderson HOF 4 Carl Yastrzemski HOF 5 Pete Rose 6 Ed Delahanty HOF 7 Al Simmons HOF 8 Tim Raines HOF 9 Goose Goslin HOF 10 Manny Ramirez 11 Billy Williams HOF 12 Fred Clarke HOF 13 Jesse Burkett HOF 14 Sherry Magee 15 Willie Stargell HOF 16 Joe Medwick HOF 17 Zack Wheat HOF 18 Bob Johnson 19 Ralph Kiner HOF 20 Lance Berkman 21 Jose Cruz 22 Minnie Minoso 23 Joe Kelley HOF 24 Luis Gonzalez 25 Bobby Veach Yup, you got it right. Worthless. It only nailed it about as well as it can be nailed. Your exaggerations really piss me off. wth Matt ... When your #1 and #5 guys aren't in the HOF, maybe its NOT all you think it is ..... [;)] Yeah, like those guys didn't do well in other stats. WAR and all of its derivatives takes the absurd approach of saying how many more games this guy won for you. It's totally absurd. Things like Tim Raines being #8 all time or Willie Stargell actually being a first baseman gives you a hint as to the accuracy of the stat. It's well and good to take the top performers of all time and try to use it to validate the stat, but it doesn't validate it at. Those guys will always score high. They have a ton of stats that say they will score high. When you move away from those guys with the obvious big numbers, WAR becomes less and less accurate. When you use it to rank the best of the best against each other it is the same thing because the difference between most of these guys is very small.

SoMnFan -> RE: Former Twins News (7/30/2018 10:06:03 AM)
The one embarrassing note from Cooperstown .... Thome wasted several good seconds of time talking about Punto yuck yuck patooey That one brief mention has made me re-think completely how I look at him.

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