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Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/18/2014 10:15:20 PM)

Roch lost the 7 inning game too, 4-1,late.

Meyer 3IP 2H/2BB/4K
Pressly 3IP H/BB/2K
Tonkin BS/1-1 .1Ip 3H/4R/2ER/BB/K
Thompson .2Ip 3-3 IRS 2BB/K

Wilkin 2-3/double, Pinto 1-2/BB,Rohlfing 1-2/double/BB/R




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 12:56:34 PM)

MWL All-Star Notes: Stewart Continues Making Rapid Progress For Twins


COMSTOCK PARK, Mich.Low Class A Cedar Rapids righthander Kohl Stewart could have gone on to play football last fall at Texas A&M. The two-sport standout at St. Pius X High in Houston had committed to the Aggies, and perhaps with the right twist of fate, he could have become the next Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M’s Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback.

Stewart’s statistics as a prep football player, after all, were impressive: 8,803 yards and 87 touchdowns in three seasons as a starting quarterback.

Of course, Stewart was also a blue-chip recruit in baseball and planned to play that sport for the Aggies as well. But after a stellar senior season on the mound, baseball scouts took notice, and the fate of Stewart shifted dramatically.

The Twins made Stewart the fourth overall pick in the 2013 draft and convinced him to turn pro with a $4.5 million bonus.

“I wanted to go to A&M. I was looking forward to that,” Stewart said. “But the Twins gave me a great opportunity I couldn’t pass up. I’m extremely happy with the choice I made. I’m having fun with pro baseball . . . but I didn’t expect things to happen as quickly as they did.

“That senior year was a whirlwind year. I got lucky. I am blessed to be where I am at today.”

Stewart represented the Western Division at the Midwest League all-star game, and while the 6-foot-3, 205-pound righthander didn’t pitch in his team’s 7-0, he enjoyed the experience.

“It’s cool to come out here and have a chance to be a part of this game,” Stewart said. “I was able to meet players from other teams and just have fun with it.”

It’s easy to forget Stewart is just 19 when he talks about life as a minor league player and the road ahead to the majors.

“There are always expectations because everyone wants to get to the major leagues,” Stewart said. “Everyone wants to be as good as they can and move up as quickly as they can, but you just have to take it day by day. Other guys have pressure on them, too. We are all in the same boat.

“Nothing happens overnight. It’s a long journey and you have to earn your spot in every league.”

Stewart emerged from the clubhouse an hour before batting practice before the all-star game still dressed in a shirt and pair of jeans. The only hint that he was one of the best prospects in the MWL was the official all-star hat he put on after it was handed to him during an interview.

Through his first 12 starts at Cedar Rapids, Stewart went 1-3, 2.44—he ranked fifth in the league ERA race—logging 41 strikeouts in 59 innings while allowing 45 hits and 20 walks for a 1.10 WHIP. His success all begins with a willingness to improve, and he plans to continue that improvement in the second half.

“I want to try and build on every start,” Stewart said. “I’ve worked a lot with the pitching coach and my goal is to come out each start and be a little better than I was before.”

Stewart didn’t really take to pitching full time until his sophomore year of high school. Now he’s a prospect with a ton of promise and a dream to one day be in the big league spotlight. But what will he have to improve on to make that dream come true?

“Everything,” Stewart said. “There isn’t any part of my game I can’t get better at. Every day, every moment, every outing, I have to focus on getting better command of my pitches, throwing strikes, pounding the zone and getting ahead of batters to put them away. I have a lot of work to do, but I’ll keep at it to make my dream come true.”





Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 1:00:25 PM)

Darnell was not the right choice to call up, proving that vs inferior competition

8H/5 R in 3IP today.

No Victorino/Middlebrooks in the Pawtucket lineup,and he's meat.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 1:01:36 PM)

And it's not Pinto's fault; Herrmann is not framing well today.




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 1:03:14 PM)

Lousy starts for Logan and Meyer. Boo.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 1:08:36 PM)

Roch will have to rally later, Buchholz has them no-hit through 3




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 1:56:11 PM)

Encouraging:

Christian (Brooklyn)


Trevor May dealing in AAA (esp. last start). I r ead an interview where he contributes the cut in BB rate% to a mentality of attacking hitters, not being afraid of giving up hits, and not really on mechanics. From what you know of him, does this seem plausible?

Klaw (1:35 PM)


Seems plausible in that he used to pitch tentatively, like he wanted to avoid contact.




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 1:57:13 PM)

Less so:

Ian (OK)


Is JO Berrios a top 100 prospect at this point?

Klaw (1:41 PM)


No.




Pete M. -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:02:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Encouraging:

Christian (Brooklyn)


Trevor May dealing in AAA (esp. last start). I r ead an interview where he contributes the cut in BB rate% to a mentality of attacking hitters, not being afraid of giving up hits, and not really on mechanics. From what you know of him, does this seem plausible?

Klaw (1:35 PM)


Seems plausible in that he used to pitch tentatively, like he wanted to avoid contact.



"Pitch to contact" -- IT WORKS! [&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:04:11 PM)

like he wanted to avoid contact.

That's natural to some extent.
He'll grow out of it once he learns the girls don't bite ...




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:04:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pete M.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Encouraging:

Christian (Brooklyn)


Trevor May dealing in AAA (esp. last start). I r ead an interview where he contributes the cut in BB rate% to a mentality of attacking hitters, not being afraid of giving up hits, and not really on mechanics. From what you know of him, does this seem plausible?

Klaw (1:35 PM)


Seems plausible in that he used to pitch tentatively, like he wanted to avoid contact.



"Pitch to contact" -- IT WORKS! [&:]


FIVE YEAR EXTENSION FOR RA! [&:]




Pete M. -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:06:37 PM)

In all seriousness, that mantra makes all the sense in the world for pitchers who, like May, have great stuff. If they "pitch to contact," i.e., focus on pounding the strike zone, they won't actually have that much contact against them because the stuff is good.

For pitchers without good stuff? Uh, yeah, we've seen how that works.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:09:58 PM)

Pete = RA interpreter.
Could be a lucrative gig.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:10:55 PM)

Gardy could use one, but Daffy Duck is busy these days ....




Pete M. -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:18:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Pete = RA interpreter.
Could be a lucrative gig.


[:D]

I admit that there are two different ways to take "pitch to contact." One is, "throw a ton of 2-seam fastballs and let them hit it." The other is, "attack with all your pitches and don't be afraid of contact early in the count." One makes a lot more sense to me than the other.




SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:23:35 PM)

Hear ya my man.
I think we do know what he means, like you say ...
But damn, its fun to tear that one apart. [:D]




Pete M. -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:32:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Less so:

Ian (OK)


Is JO Berrios a top 100 prospect at this point?

Klaw (1:41 PM)


No.



Apparently there are a ton of just-turned-20-year old pitchers tearing up high-A to the tune of 10.47 K/9, 4.29 K/BB, and 1.07 WHIP, huh? Interesting.




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:34:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pete M.

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Pete = RA interpreter.
Could be a lucrative gig.


[:D]

I admit that there are two different ways to take "pitch to contact." One is, "throw a ton of 2-seam fastballs and let them hit it." The other is, "attack with all your pitches and don't be afraid of contact early in the count." One makes a lot more sense to me than the other.


Another example of how the Twins shoot themselves in the foot because the people speaking for the team can't do so clearly.




Dave E -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:35:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pete M.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Less so:

Ian (OK)


Is JO Berrios a top 100 prospect at this point?

Klaw (1:41 PM)


No.



Apparently there are a ton of just-turned-20-year old pitchers tearing up high-A to the tune of 10.47 K/9, 4.29 K/BB, and 1.07 WHIP, huh? Interesting.


Certainly was a surprising answer to me, particularly since the in-person reports all say he has electric stuff. I suppose he could be 101?




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:42:37 PM)

one thing Berrios does not have is height.

just because he is only 6' he doesn't get the downward plane that evaluators love

as he progresses it supposedly becomes more important when you face talented hitters and have to get through line-ups 3 or 4 times.

does not necessarily mean it will hold him back. it all comes down to quality of pitches and how many of them you got




MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:49:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stacey King

one thing Berrios does not have is height.

just because he is only 6' he doesn't get the downward plane that evaluators love

as he progresses it supposedly becomes more important when you face talented hitters and have to get through line-ups 3 or 4 times.

does not necessarily mean it will hold him back. it all comes down to quality of pitches and how many of them you got


I hear you Stacey and agree with your post.

But has Law personaly watched every minor leaguer? Or is this taking the physical dimensions and using that to base his assessment. As Sweeney noted earlier, the kid could be another 5'11" Ron Guidry.

Tom Glavine was 6' and carved out a pretty good career.

Plus....let's make sure Bobby Cuellar is teaching the change up to as many pitching prospects he can within the organization.




Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 2:58:12 PM)

More catcher infatuation ...



Hot Start For Koch


MINNEAPOLIS—The season didn’t sneak up on fourth-year catcher Matt Koch.

Determined to turbo-charge his rise in the system, the Loyola Marymount product swung a midseason bat against just-out-of-training-camp pitchers in April with an 11-game hitting streak to open the season at Double-A New Britain.

“He was jumping on (pitchers) right away, before they were settled in,” vice president of player personnel Mike Radcliff said.

A promotion might be in the works for Koch later this season, but for now he’s making a case as a future successor to Joe Mauer. Koch (pronounced “coach”) collected a hit in 19 of the Rock Cats’ first 22 games and batted .255/.344/.345 overall through 34 games.

“He’s got a lot of strength. That’s one of his assets,” Radcliff said. “He can hit the ball over your head. He’s not going to be a big-time power hitter, but he’s a classic pull guy into the gap.”

He’s also a reasonably good defensive presence, throwing out 33 percent of basestealers.

“That’s why he was drafted where he was,” Radcliff said of the 12th-round pick in 2011. “He’s a real steady guy behind the plate. His percentages, those are pretty good for the minor leagues, because you have to eyeball how well your pitchers hold guys.

“He’s proven that he’s got strength in that arm, and he’s got strength in his bat.”





Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 3:04:59 PM)

minor lg roundup

Florida State League (Hi A)

Stuart Turner

Stuart Turner, c, Fort Myers (Twins). A heap o’ rain left few games to choose from in the FSL. Among the prospects who stood out was the former Ole Miss catcher, who might be moving up in the eyes of the Twins organization with Josmil Pinto firmly entrenched beneath the bus that Glen Perkins threw him under. Turner homered in the Miracle’s 5-0 win. He’s hitting just .236 overall, but has heated up the past two months and is slugging .922 in June. If the mitt-first Turner shows anything with the bat, he could move quickly with a void behind the dish at Target Field.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 3:06:24 PM)

Pump up the no-hit catchers who need work but don't mention that.

Put down the good-hit catcher who doesn't speak much english.

It's the Twins way.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (6/19/2014 3:19:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Roch will have to rally later, Buchholz has them no-hit through 3



2 hits off Buchholz in 6

Now 3 in the 7th, grand slam in the 8thoff the bullpen, and Roch up 7-6




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