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TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 10:13:52 AM)

Garver? What about F. Scott Fitzmurphy?



sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 11:19:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garver? What about F. Scott Fitzmurphy?


I said bring up, not shit can. [:D]



CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 11:26:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sixthwi

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Tuesday:

Roch was blanked on 5 hits, 3-0

Walker 2-4, Garver 1-2/BB, Palka 1-4/double, Buxton 0-4/K

Greenwood 4-3 7IP 7H/2R/3Bb/3K
Ramirez IP H/R/BB/HR


Chatt off

FTM won a rain make-up 1-0 in 8 innings

Maloney 2-4/RBI, Ibarra 1-4/Gordon 1-4

Clay IP 2BB
Westphal 3.1IP 2H/BB/3K
Theofanopoulos 3.1IP 0-1 IRS BB/4K
Van Steensel 3-2 .1IP BB 0-1 IRS


FTM then lost 8-6

Ibarra 1-3/3R HR(1), Maloney 2-4/Solo HR(3), Miller 1-4/double/RBI, English 1-3/triple/BB/R/RBi/SB(8)/Assist at 2nd, Kihle 1-3/R/Assist at 3rd

LeBlanc 4-7 3IP 10H/8R/2BB/K
Booser 3IP 6K


CRapids split 2

10-1 loss in the first game

Arraez 2-3, Blankenhorn 1-3/double, Fernandez 1-3/RBI

Gibbons 6-4 4.2IP 6H/8R/7ER/2BB/2K/HR
Cordy 1.1IP 0-1 IRS 4H/2R/3K

CRapids won game 2, 7-2


Blankenhord 2-4/2R HR(1)/3RBI, Wiel 2-3/double(25)/triple(7)/2R/2RBI/BB, Davis 2-4/double/RBI, Lopez 1-3/BB/R

Anderson 1-0 6IP 4H/R/BB/4K
Ramirez IP 2H/R/2BB/K


Eliz gave up 21 hits, lost 17-7

Diaz 1-4/3R HR(8), Hamilton 2-4/BB/R/2RBI, Montesino 2-5/double/2R/RBI, Molina 2-4/R

Mason 4IP 9H/7R/BB/2K
Grogan 1-2 3IP 6H/5R/2K/HR
Tribby 2IP 6H/5R/BB/HR


GCL Twins rained out


Now that Honda has cleared waivers it's time to trade him and bring up Garver.


What is Honda's value? His catching defense is widely known as perhaps the worst amongst ML catchers whether they be regular or backup catchers. He hits a little, so a backup catcher, PH off the bench is his ceiling. He maybe brings a low-A to high-A prospect and within that group probably a #7-#10 prospect within any organization's farm system-at best.



CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 11:28:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Tuesday:

Roch was blanked on 5 hits, 3-0

Walker 2-4, Garver 1-2/BB, Palka 1-4/double, Buxton 0-4/K

Greenwood 4-3 7IP 7H/2R/3Bb/3K
Ramirez IP H/R/BB/HR


Chatt off

FTM won a rain make-up 1-0 in 8 innings

Maloney 2-4/RBI, Ibarra 1-4/Gordon 1-4

Clay IP 2BB
Westphal 3.1IP 2H/BB/3K
Theofanopoulos 3.1IP 0-1 IRS BB/4K
Van Steensel 3-2 .1IP BB 0-1 IRS


FTM then lost 8-6

Ibarra 1-3/3R HR(1), Maloney 2-4/Solo HR(3), Miller 1-4/double/RBI, English 1-3/triple/BB/R/RBi/SB(8)/Assist at 2nd, Kihle 1-3/R/Assist at 3rd

LeBlanc 4-7 3IP 10H/8R/2BB/K
Booser 3IP 6K


CRapids split 2

10-1 loss in the first game

Arraez 2-3, Blankenhorn 1-3/double, Fernandez 1-3/RBI

Gibbons 6-4 4.2IP 6H/8R/7ER/2BB/2K/HR
Cordy 1.1IP 0-1 IRS 4H/2R/3K

CRapids won game 2, 7-2


Blankenhord 2-4/2R HR(1)/3RBI, Wiel 2-3/double(25)/triple(7)/2R/2RBI/BB, Davis 2-4/double/RBI, Lopez 1-3/BB/R

Anderson 1-0 6IP 4H/R/BB/4K
Ramirez IP 2H/R/2BB/K


Eliz gave up 21 hits, lost 17-7

Diaz 1-4/3R HR(8), Hamilton 2-4/BB/R/2RBI, Montesino 2-5/double/2R/RBI, Molina 2-4/R

Mason 4IP 9H/7R/BB/2K
Grogan 1-2 3IP 6H/5R/2K/HR
Tribby 2IP 6H/5R/BB/HR


GCL Twins rained out


I see that Buxton is lighting it up at Rochester. Come on Chad Allen fix this guy.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 11:59:38 AM)

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What is Honda's value? His catching defense is widely known as perhaps the worst amongst ML catchers whether they be regular or backup catchers. He hits a little, so a backup catcher, PH off the bench is his ceiling. He maybe brings a low-A to high-A prospect and within that group probably a #7-#10 prospect within any organization's farm system-at best.


A-ball guy not in the top 10.

He has little value outside of durability and some hitting skills.



sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 12:22:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

What is Honda's value? His catching defense is widely known as perhaps the worst amongst ML catchers whether they be regular or backup catchers. He hits a little, so a backup catcher, PH off the bench is his ceiling. He maybe brings a low-A to high-A prospect and within that group probably a #7-#10 prospect within any organization's farm system-at best.


A-ball guy not in the top 10.

He has little value outside of durability and some hitting skills.


That's enough value for me. They're going to suck with or without him and he won't be around when they don't suck any more so may as well get something for him.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 1:57:47 PM)

GCL Twins lost 4-2 on Wednesday

Featherstone 2-3, Salva 1-3/double/2RBI

only 5 hits each team

GCL had 2 E's

Clemensia 3.1IP 2H/2R/1ER/3BB/3K/2Es(3)
Pearce 2-2 3IP 2H/2R/BB/K 0-1 IRS
Farfan 1.2I H/2K 2-2 IRS



MDK -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 2:13:49 PM)

JR is batting 300 in his last 10 games. (30 at bats)
Garver is batting 375 / 474 / 563 / 1.036 since his promotion to Rochester (only 5 games and 16 at bats)

Sure would be nice if one of these finally could get it figured out.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 2:34:54 PM)

Roch lost 4-3

Murph 1-3
Garver 0-4/2K
Walker 1-3/BB/2R HR(25)(65RBI)/2K/Assist at home
Palka 1-4/Solo HR(10)/2K
Beresford 2-4
Rodriguez 1-4/double/R

Albers 9-6 6IP 11H/4R/BB/5K
Reed 1.1 IP 2K
Burnett .2IP



ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 3:28:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

I see that Buxton is lighting it up at Rochester. Come on Chad Allen fix this guy.


I have read people say Buxton has proven all he can prove in AAA and I disagree. Going into this season he had a grand total of 55 at bats in Rochester. Granted he hit .400 in those 55 at bats, but what Brant Alyea did in 1970 during the month of April is even more impressive. Saying Buxton mashed AAA pitching is one thing. Acting as though he's mastered that level is a presumptuous at best. I'll be a prick and say "small sample size"
Would that not apply in this case?

Buxton OBVIOUSLY needs more development time. After reading his comments from an article last week there is no reason why he should be up with the big club. His comments were basically screaming....."I'm not ready"



SoMnFan -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 3:30:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

I see that Buxton is lighting it up at Rochester. Come on Chad Allen fix this guy.


I have read people say Buxton has proven all he can prove in AAA and I disagree. Going into this season he had a grand total of 55 at bats in Rochester. Granted he hit .400 in those 55 at bats, but what Brant Alyea did in 1970 during the month of April is even more impressive. Saying Buxton mashed AAA pitching is one thing. Acting as though he's mastered that level is a presumptuous at best. I'll be a prick and say "small sample size"
Would that not apply in this case?

Buxton OBVIOUSLY needs more development time. After reading his comments from an article last week there is no reason why he should be up with the big club. His comments were basically screaming....."I'm not ready"

In that regard ... have they even won while he's been there?
Looks like nightly they could use a couple hits and a couple runs out of him .
Figure that out, and then we will come down and talk to you again.
Yes, this is all about development individually, but in the end, what do you bring to a team? Do you make a difference?



ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/17/2016 4:49:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yes, this is all about development individually, but in the end, what do you bring to a team? Do you make a difference?


He has been rushed and I blame Ryan. He had a total of 13 games at AAA (time in AAA matters, I don't care what anyone says) before this season. It was not enough to determine anything. I gave the Alyea example, then there is Smalley in '79. Was he hitting like .380 in early June or something along those lines? Then in 1980 there was Ken Reitz. He came out of the gate like a house on fire, but.........he's Ken Reitz. Those guys had prolonged hot streaks. Buxton's was for 55 at bats!

Buxton had moderate success in AA last year hitting .283, but that was actually his first go 'round at AA. He was injured and carted off that field in his only AA before that. It was not really necessary to promote him to AAA last season. He needed a full year in AA, imo. Now he is all screwed up, being asked to beat the ball into the ground and all that



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 7:19:02 AM)

Wed night, Chatt won 6-3 behind Gonsalves

6-1, 6IP 2BB/9K on 105 pitches
Busenitz IP 2H/3R/BB/K
Melotakis 0IP
Jones 2IP BB/4K/Save(1)


White 2-3/double/BB/R/2RBi, Walker 2-3/double/BB/R, Corcino 1-2/double/BB/R/RBI, Granite 1-4/R/SB(44)


FTM lost 6-3

English 2-4/triple(3)/Solo HR(3)/2RBI, Kihle 2-3, Murray 1-4/double/R

Nordgren 0-4 5.2IP 9H/6R/4ER/2BB/5K
Curtiss 2.1IP 0-2 IRS H/3K


CRapids won 4-1

Garcia 2-4/double/RBI, Arraez 2-4/R/RBI, Wiel 1-4/triple(8)/R, Lopez 1-3/BB/R

Del Rosario 5-2 6IP 4H/BB/6K
Lombana 1.1I 2H/R/3BB/K
McIver 1.2IP 3K Save(8) 0-2 IRS

Eliz was off



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 9:04:51 AM)

Stephen Gonsalves's Last 8 starts:
51 IP, 4 ER, 22 H, 22 BB, 58 K..
0.71 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, 10.2 K/9, 3.9 BB/9.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 9:22:27 AM)

And he is already in AA. They are running out of time to screw him up.



Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 9:53:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Stephen Gonsalves's Last 8 starts:
51 IP, 4 ER, 22 H, 22 BB, 58 K..
0.71 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, 10.2 K/9, 3.9 BB/9.



Jeepers. Just put him on the 40 and call him up with rosters expand. give him a taste this september.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 12:24:00 PM)

RHP Alan Busenitz, acquired as part of a trade with the LA Angels on August 1, has been transferred to @RocRedWings from Double-A.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 12:25:15 PM)

Crap. Melotakis is dinged.

Omar Bencomo back from AAA.
Mason Melotakis to DL. Todd Van Steensel up from FM.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 5:06:23 PM)

GCL Twins split 2

6-3 win, just 4 hits, took advantage of an error 4BBs and WPs

Baddoo 0-1/2BB/R, Salva 1-3/R, Blanco 1-3/RBI

Fox 4IP 5H/3R/4K
Gomez 3-0 3IP BB/3K

only 4 hits in the nightcap, too, losing 2-0

Whitefield/Hazard 1-3, Davis/Munoz 1-2

Hellquist 4.2IP 5H/2R/2BB/3K
Strecker 2.1IP 0-1 IRS 2H/3K



Black 47 -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 5:31:05 PM)

Zach Jones is on fire.

Busenitz gets roughed up then promoted to AAA?



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/18/2016 6:22:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

Zach Jones is on fire.

Busenitz gets roughed up then promoted to AAA?

They have Busenitz on a schedule.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/19/2016 7:19:46 AM)

Thursday night

Rochester 6-3 winner

Rodriguez 1-3/BB/3R HR(4)/2R/SB(2), Garver 2-4/RBI, Schafer 1-3/R/RBI, Beresford 1-3/double/Bb/R

Wheeler 10-4 6IP 5H/3R/6K
Baxendale 2IP H/2K
Wimmers IP BB/K/Save(10)


Chatt lost 6-2

5 hits. Granite 1-3/sac fly/2RBI

Slegers 9-7 5.1IP 5H/6R/5ER/4BB/3K
Peeterson 2.2IP 2BB/3K/1-2 IRS
Van Steensel IP K


FTM a 1-0 winner

combo 6 hitter

Romero 4-2 6.1IP 3H/2BB/8K/E(1)
Rosario 1.2IP 0-1 IRS 2H/3K
Anderson IP H/BB/2K/Save(6)

Ibarra 2-3/doubble, Kihle 2-3/double/BB/R/Assist at home, Murphy 1-3/Bb/RBI/Assist at 3rd


CRapids gave up 2 in the 9th, lost 3-2

Blankenhorn 1-4/2RBI, Molina 2-4/R, Scoggins 2-3/BB

Poppen 5IP 4H/R/3BB/5K
Vasquez 2.2IP H/3K
Hackimer BS/1-3 .1IP 2H/2R/1ER/2BB/K


Eliz 6-3 win

Kirilloff 2-4/2R/RBI, Minier 1-4/3R HR(9), Diaz 2-4/R, Hamilton 1-4/triple/2R

Schick 5-1 5.2IP 2H/R/2BB/7K
Lujan 2IP 0-1 IRS 2H/2R/1ER/K/HR
McGuff 1.1IP 0-1 IRS K/Save(6)



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/19/2016 11:29:23 AM)

This afternoon, the Rochester Red Wings will hold a press conference regarding the affiliation of the team.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/19/2016 11:32:14 AM)

Zach Jones continues to pitch well at AA.

And "SethTweets" still lists him at 50/50 for being added to the 40-man roster, citing a number of guys whose lengthy minors careers are at the Rule 5 point.

me?

Easy to find guys to lop off and make room for a bullpen guy who misses bats.

50/50? Puh-leeze.



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/19/2016 12:13:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

This afternoon, the Rochester Red Wings will hold a press conference regarding the affiliation of the team.

I assume they are locking in with the Twins for awhile.



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