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CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (12/21/2016 4:32:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.


WTF! What are the Twins attempting to do here? They are loading up their minor league roster with rejects from other organizations. I am really losing faith with these dynamic young executives.



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (12/21/2016 7:51:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.

Anyone think Hague just had trouble adjusting to life in Japan? That's gotta be a culture shock. Look at those AAA numbers. In the pitcher-friendly International League!!! Those are REMARKABLE numbers. I like that signing. I like it a lot.



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (12/21/2016 7:53:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.


WTF! What are the Twins attempting to do here? They are loading up their minor league roster with rejects from other organizations. I am really losing faith with these dynamic young executives.

That took one month longer than expected.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (12/21/2016 8:12:10 PM)

I thought it was about two weeks late.



CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/8/2017 5:52:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.


WTF! What are the Twins attempting to do here? They are loading up their minor league roster with rejects from other organizations. I am really losing faith with these dynamic young executives.

That took one month longer than expected.


Seriously, the Twins could be worse this season than last season because they have absolutely no minor league pitching help to bring up after the first wave of failures at the ML level. They used a record number of pitchers last season. Where will they find them this season?



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 8:29:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.


WTF! What are the Twins attempting to do here? They are loading up their minor league roster with rejects from other organizations. I am really losing faith with these dynamic young executives.

That took one month longer than expected.


Seriously, the Twins could be worse this season than last season because they have absolutely no minor league pitching help to bring up after the first wave of failures at the ML level. They used a record number of pitchers last season. Where will they find them this season?

We're gonna get a couple great pitchers in the Dozier trade.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 8:47:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.


WTF! What are the Twins attempting to do here? They are loading up their minor league roster with rejects from other organizations. I am really losing faith with these dynamic young executives.

That took one month longer than expected.


Seriously, the Twins could be worse this season than last season because they have absolutely no minor league pitching help to bring up after the first wave of failures at the ML level. They used a record number of pitchers last season. Where will they find them this season?


I don't see it Mark. There is regression to the mean for some players but when the majority had injuries and their worst season ever---I have them at an uptick of 77-85.



CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 9:23:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

Wow. That sure is some inspiring news.


Then you'll love this

The Twins have signed corner infielder Matt Hague to a minor league deal, MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger tweets. They also re-signed 1B/OF Reynaldo Rodriguez to a minor league deal. The 31-year-old Hague had a strong season with Triple-A Buffalo in the Blue Jays system in 2015, batting .338/.416/.468, and he’s generally hit well at the Triple-A level.
In 2016, though, he struggled with Hanshin in Japan, batting .231/.339/.346 in 124 plate appearances. He’s collected a total of 91 career big-league plate appearances with the Jays and Pirates.

The 29-year-old Rodriguez batted .220/.304/.329 for Triple-A Rochester in 2016, also serving an 80-game PED suspension. He has over 1,500 career plate appearances at Double-A and has established himself as a good hitter at that level, but his bat has never fully made the leap to Triple-A, and he’s never played in the Majors.


WTF! What are the Twins attempting to do here? They are loading up their minor league roster with rejects from other organizations. I am really losing faith with these dynamic young executives.

That took one month longer than expected.


Seriously, the Twins could be worse this season than last season because they have absolutely no minor league pitching help to bring up after the first wave of failures at the ML level. They used a record number of pitchers last season. Where will they find them this season?


I don't see it Mark. There is regression to the mean for some players but when the majority had injuries and their worst season ever---I have them at an uptick of 77-85.


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TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 9:45:17 AM)

This whole debate is ridiculous. It is ridiculous sight unseen to just assume Falvey and Levine are making the right moves. It is just as ridiculous to judge them as same shit, different regime. Every organization signs a bunch of players to minor league contracts every year. You can't assume the new FO is signing them for the same reason that Ryan signed them. Neither can you assume that they haven't. We haven't gotten into the season and see what moves they make to cover for injuries or failed prospects. You can't criticize them for not moving Dozier for a treasure trove of prospects because you don't know what is actually on the table. We heard all kinds of big names when Johan was on the market. In reality those were fabrications from local sources. Lester, Bucholtz, Ellsbury etc., were never available to the Twins. The most recent articles are saying that the Dodgers have only offered the one pitching prospect for Dozier and not 3 as previously reported.

And one last thing. Derron Johnson was NOT promoted. He was given a fancy ass title with no primary responsibilities. The draft was taken away from him. He is no longer in charge of amature scouting. He has been "promoted" out to the pasture. All he is going to do is pile up some frequent flier miles and give his 2 cents on pro, amature and international players. This isn't even as good as promoting Dwight Schrute from assistant to the manager to assistant manager. I will be shocked if he is even in the organization by this time next year.



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 10:01:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

This whole debate is ridiculous. It is ridiculous sight unseen to just assume Falvey and Levine are making the right moves. It is just as ridiculous to judge them as same shit, different regime. Every organization signs a bunch of players to minor league contracts every year. You can't assume the new FO is signing them for the same reason that Ryan signed them. Neither can you assume that they haven't. We haven't gotten into the season and see what moves they make to cover for injuries or failed prospects. You can't criticize them for not moving Dozier for a treasure trove of prospects because you don't know what is actually on the table. We heard all kinds of big names when Johan was on the market. In reality those were fabrications from local sources. Lester, Bucholtz, Ellsbury etc., were never available to the Twins. The most recent articles are saying that the Dodgers have only offered the one pitching prospect for Dozier and not 3 as previously reported.

And one last thing. Derron Johnson was NOT promoted. He was given a fancy ass title with no primary responsibilities. The draft was taken away from him. He is no longer in charge of amature scouting. He has been "promoted" out to the pasture. All he is going to do is pile up some frequent flier miles and give his 2 cents on pro, amature and international players. This isn't even as good as promoting Dwight Schrute from assistant to the manager to assistant manager. I will be shocked if he is even in the organization by this time next year.

[&:][&:] Instant classic!



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 10:05:12 AM)

The only difference is that Dwight wasn't allowed to tell anyone about it. [;)]



CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 11:02:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

This whole debate is ridiculous. It is ridiculous sight unseen to just assume Falvey and Levine are making the right moves. It is just as ridiculous to judge them as same shit, different regime. Every organization signs a bunch of players to minor league contracts every year. You can't assume the new FO is signing them for the same reason that Ryan signed them. Neither can you assume that they haven't. We haven't gotten into the season and see what moves they make to cover for injuries or failed prospects. You can't criticize them for not moving Dozier for a treasure trove of prospects because you don't know what is actually on the table. We heard all kinds of big names when Johan was on the market. In reality those were fabrications from local sources. Lester, Bucholtz, Ellsbury etc., were never available to the Twins. The most recent articles are saying that the Dodgers have only offered the one pitching prospect for Dozier and not 3 as previously reported.

And one last thing. Derron Johnson was NOT promoted. He was given a fancy ass title with no primary responsibilities. The draft was taken away from him. He is no longer in charge of amature scouting. He has been "promoted" out to the pasture. All he is going to do is pile up some frequent flier miles and give his 2 cents on pro, amature and international players. This isn't even as good as promoting Dwight Schrute from assistant to the manager to assistant manager. I will be shocked if he is even in the organization by this time next year.


I wasn't debating anyone. I was simply stating my opinion that because the Twins haven't done anything, at least as of yet, to improve the ML pitching available to the 40-man roster, that they are even weaker positioned to move into a new season with any foreseeable backup players who start out at AAA or AA. Most of the pitchers they have added to the minor league roster are journeyman guys, castoffs from other organizations and pitchers in the twilight of their careers who were let go for that exact reason by other ML franchises. Because the pitching is so paper thin, I can easily foresee even bigger struggles for the ML team to get through a 162-game schedule.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 11:16:05 AM)

Just curious. What moves were there to be made that they haven't made?



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 11:31:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens
Just curious. What moves were there to be made that they haven't made?

You might not know the status of some of the hurt guys from last year until late in spring training. Pretty crappy situation but you can't just sign everyone either. Falvey & Levine have to evaluate:

Berrios
Boshers
Chargois
Duffey
Gibson
Haley
Hughes
Jorge
Kintzler
Light
May
Mejia
Melatakis
O' Rourke
Perkins
Pressley
Rogers
Romero
Rosario
Santana
Santiago
Tonkin

& from the 40 Man:
Slegers
Rucinski
Reed
Gonslaves
Fernandez

Some of these guys might be pretty good...



CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/9/2017 11:46:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens
Just curious. What moves were there to be made that they haven't made?

You might not know the status of some of the hurt guys from last year until late in spring training. Pretty crappy situation but you can't just sign everyone either. Falvey & Levine have to evaluate:

Berrios
Boshers
Chargois
Duffey
Gibson
Haley
Hughes
Jorge
Kintzler
Light
May
Mejia
Melatakis
O' Rourke
Perkins
Pressley
Rogers
Romero
Rosario
Santana
Santiago
Tonkin

& from the 40 Man:
Slegers
Rucinski
Reed
Gonslaves
Fernandez

Some of these guys might be pretty good...


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Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 10:00:08 AM)

According to Baseball America


Twins
Top 10 Prospects ($)
1. Nick Gordon, ss
2. Stephen Gonsalves, lhp
3. Alex Kirilloff, of/1b
4. Fernando Romero, rhp
5. Tyler Jay, lhp
6. Adalberto Mejia, lhp
7. Kohl Stewart, rhp
8. Felix Jorge, rhp
9. Daniel Palka, of
10. Travis Blankenhorn, 3b/2b


Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-top-10-prospects-index/#jP3WLsLs66TxJ2YF.99



twinsfan -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 10:20:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

According to Baseball America


Twins
Top 10 Prospects ($)
1. Nick Gordon, ss
2. Stephen Gonsalves, lhp
3. Alex Kirilloff, of/1b
4. Fernando Romero, rhp
5. Tyler Jay, lhp
6. Adalberto Mejia, lhp
7. Kohl Stewart, rhp
8. Felix Jorge, rhp
9. Daniel Palka, of
10. Travis Blankenhorn, 3b/2b


Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-top-10-prospects-index/#jP3WLsLs66TxJ2YF.99

Not exactly overflowing anymore, are we?



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 10:34:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

According to Baseball America


Twins
Top 10 Prospects ($)
1. Nick Gordon, ss
2. Stephen Gonsalves, lhp
3. Alex Kirilloff, of/1b
4. Fernando Romero, rhp
5. Tyler Jay, lhp
6. Adalberto Mejia, lhp
7. Kohl Stewart, rhp
8. Felix Jorge, rhp
9. Daniel Palka, of
10. Travis Blankenhorn, 3b/2b


Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2017-top-10-prospects-index/#jP3WLsLs66TxJ2YF.99


Let's see if Falvey and Levine can fix the development process before these guys reach the make or break point. I keep harping on Stewart. This was the guy who was the consensus "best pitcher in the draft" until the Twins got ahold of him. Now three pitchers in our organization alone have passed him up. Falvey's forte was supposedly developing young pitchers. Let's hope he can work some magic.



McMurfy -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 2:32:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

This whole debate is ridiculous. It is ridiculous sight unseen to just assume Falvey and Levine are making the right moves. It is just as ridiculous to judge them as same shit, different regime. Every organization signs a bunch of players to minor league contracts every year. You can't assume the new FO is signing them for the same reason that Ryan signed them. Neither can you assume that they haven't. We haven't gotten into the season and see what moves they make to cover for injuries or failed prospects. You can't criticize them for not moving Dozier for a treasure trove of prospects because you don't know what is actually on the table. We heard all kinds of big names when Johan was on the market. In reality those were fabrications from local sources. Lester, Bucholtz, Ellsbury etc., were never available to the Twins. The most recent articles are saying that the Dodgers have only offered the one pitching prospect for Dozier and not 3 as previously reported.

And one last thing. Derron Johnson was NOT promoted. He was given a fancy ass title with no primary responsibilities. The draft was taken away from him. He is no longer in charge of amature scouting. He has been "promoted" out to the pasture. All he is going to do is pile up some frequent flier miles and give his 2 cents on pro, amature and international players. This isn't even as good as promoting Dwight Schrute from assistant to the manager to assistant manager. I will be shocked if he is even in the organization by this time next year.



Nope, you're wrong.

Did the Cubs or Sox under Epstein stand pat?
No

I think these guys are in over their heads.

Nice guys?
Sure
Nice guys finish last.


And it's not about not trading Dozier, it's about so publicly trying to move him.
It reeks of desperation and lowers his value.

They put their cards face up when everybody else held them close.


Amateur night at the improv.
Learning the job, on the job.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 2:46:01 PM)

I disagree with virtually everything you just said. Except the part about Epstein. Not that it has anything to do with the Twins current situation.



McMurfy -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 3:05:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I disagree with virtually everything you just said. Except the part about Epstein. Not that it has anything to do with the Twins current situation.




I hope you're right.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 4:20:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens
I disagree with virtually everything you just said. Except the part about Epstein. Not that it has anything to do with the Twins current situation.

I hope you're right.


Thad isn't that young any more and has been Asst GM with the Rangers for 11 years....Falvey is of course really young.



TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 4:33:32 PM)

As to the Dozier trade, I don't know how they keep that under wraps. They didn't put their cards face up. All of the stories on potential swaps have come from 3rd and 4th hand accounts. Falvey and Levine haven't provided any of the fodder. They said up front that it would take a great offer to trade him, otherwise they were happy to keep him. They didn't get a satisfactory offer, and stuck to what they said. LA floated rumors about switching their focus to Kinsler or some Cuban defector and Falvey hasn't budged. They know what Dozier is worth. They know what Kinsler is worth. They know LA's window and need for a second baseman, right handed pop and payroll issues. They know that LA knows that Dozier is their best option. So they are waiting while LA bluffs.



McMurfy -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 4:39:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy
quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens
I disagree with virtually everything you just said. Except the part about Epstein. Not that it has anything to do with the Twins current situation.

I hope you're right.


Thad isn't that young any more and has been Asst GM with the Rangers for 11 years....Falvey is of course really young.




11 glorious, successful years by the Rangers.

Wait, what?
Prince Fielder
Chan Ho Park
The Matt Garza Trade
The Kyle Hendricks Trade
Trading Chris Davis


Anytime Phil agrees with me, I check my Math.
When he doesn't, I'm usually right.



ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (1/17/2017 7:51:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

This whole debate is ridiculous. It is ridiculous sight unseen to just assume Falvey and Levine are making the right moves. It is just as ridiculous to judge them as same shit, different regime. Every organization signs a bunch of players to minor league contracts every year. You can't assume the new FO is signing them for the same reason that Ryan signed them. Neither can you assume that they haven't. We haven't gotten into the season and see what moves they make to cover for injuries or failed prospects. You can't criticize them for not moving Dozier for a treasure trove of prospects because you don't know what is actually on the table. We heard all kinds of big names when Johan was on the market. In reality those were fabrications from local sources. Lester, Bucholtz, Ellsbury etc., were never available to the Twins. The most recent articles are saying that the Dodgers have only offered the one pitching prospect for Dozier and not 3 as previously reported.

And one last thing. Derron Johnson was NOT promoted. He was given a fancy ass title with no primary responsibilities. The draft was taken away from him. He is no longer in charge of amature scouting. He has been "promoted" out to the pasture. All he is going to do is pile up some frequent flier miles and give his 2 cents on pro, amature and international players. This isn't even as good as promoting Dwight Schrute from assistant to the manager to assistant manager. I will be shocked if he is even in the organization by this time next year.



Nope, you're wrong.

Did the Cubs or Sox under Epstein stand pat?
No

I think these guys are in over their heads.

Nice guys?
Sure
Nice guys finish last.


And it's not about not trading Dozier, it's about so publicly trying to move him.
It reeks of desperation and lowers his value.

They put their cards face up when everybody else held them close.


Amateur night at the improv.
Learning the job, on the job.


I do not and have not given up on the new regime time, but if I am going to be at all honest, I gotta say, after a 103 loss season there needs to be a shakeup. These guys weren't supposed to stand pat and it is a disappointment thus far. How is that not fair to say? No way am I going to judge them based only on this, but we are bringing back so many guys. It's so obvious the pitching needs to be addressing and yet nothing has gotten done. It's their job to address that. To say they need this season to evaluate is bunk. This staff has been awful for a long time and data these guys embrace will tell them that. So no, they have not done a good job thus far this offseason. It's fair to say that they have disappointed. Pitching is priority #1 as plain as day. In the simplest terms..., Bad job for doing nothing about it.

And I agree with you on this Dozier thing. It was so advertised that the Twins were shopping him that the longer they waited the less they are were a position of strength. Other teams see right through it. You can expect them to deal him at the trade deadline instead when they are out of it. Teams are prepared to wait this out and now Dozier will play this year wondering where he's going at the trade deadline. If they were going to do this it should have been done a while ago. Waiting for the other team to blink and carry things out reminds me of how Bill Smith handled Santana. Bad job there.

Whatever. It is what is. I still want to know what is up with the 13 pitchers that will be on the 25 man opening day. Who are they? It's not all promising and that sucks. You'd like to see some young arms that are major league ready with a little bit of skills come in and hopefully make a dent to help pull us up a bit. We don't get that this time, I guess.

To anyone who is going to tell me not to lump these guys in with TR please stop yourself from doing it. Remember I'm the one who made the T shirts calling for his ouster. Falvey and Levine should be given time. I agree. However, if we are going to evaluate the first few months I have to be fair and say thus far they haven't done anything and that is disappointing



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