CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (8/5/2014 4:16:49 PM)
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: djskillz quote:
ORIGINAL: CPAMAN quote:
ORIGINAL: djskillz Hmm, forgot about you owing me, Mark. We'll settle that at some future game soon. As for the stats, even though I expect them both to clear those it's tough for me to sign on to those because I just don't believe in HR/AVG/RBI as accurate measures of a player at all. We know that both are always going to be very, very good defensive OF'ers and baserunners. So factoring that in can we agree on at least 3 times having an OPS at the break of .780 between them? That would put them (either one that clears it) in the top 5 CF'ers in baseball as overall players. Or we could do that over a full season (probably more fair for both of us than All Star break). Hmmm, the concept of even OPS is difficult for me. An OPS of .350 is generally pretty decent but certainly not great. A slugging % of .400 is fair but not even close to very good. So you want to use .780 OPS for only half of a season three times for each player, is this correct? Or do they have to do it in the same season three times? If that is the case, then I accept the adjusted terms. OPS is OBP plus SLG, Mark. An OBP of .350 to .400 is very good and a SLG of .400 is also very good. For a benchmark, only 45 players in baseball currently have OBP's over .350. Only 86 have SLG over .400. And only 56 have OPS's of at least .780. Among ALL OF'ers, only 19 have an OBP above .350, 31 have SLG above .400, and 22 have an OPS above .780. Among CF'ers, there only 5, 5, and 7 that qualify in those. So I'd say I'm giving you a pretty damn good low bar here. .780 OPS or more for 3 full seasons by Buxton/Hicks combined in their careers. So if Buxton has 3 or more, I win. If Hicks has 3 or more, I win. If they don't combine to have at least 3 of those seasons in their career, not only will I lose the bet, but I will likely stop being a Twins fan. Well, it sounds reasonable except each has to attain those numbers at least twice in their career and I will say you win. So if things pan out in your favor, I could owe you $100 in wine and dine benefits by as early as October 1, 2016 or certainly by October 1, 2017. Agreed? The reason I changed it to both is that one player could totally suck and thus be a complete bust. In that event, our bet would be a wash and then I still owe you a couple of top quality beers at a local beer pub downtown Mpls or other appropriate venue.
|
|
|
|