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Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 11:45:16 AM)
If he can't hit Righties he is a low level platoon player at best since obviously, there are more right handed pitchers. I was going to look up how he his hitting splits are....

Mr. Ed -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 12:04:59 PM)
.310 vs RHP .369 OBP .500 SLG 6bb/7k 4 doubles/2 triples/HR/9RBI 18-58

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 12:24:06 PM)
Yes, because Schafer and Robinson have such wonderful splits.... Both guys are terrible. At least Hicks has the talent to actually do something. It's time to see him and Rosario BOTH and let's fix this outfield defense and cover up for Torii. And I have no doubt that Hicks won't be any worse this year than Schafer's amazing .562 OPS. In fact, he was better than that both of the last 2 years, with Gardy at the helm. With much better defense. There's no reason for Hicks not to be up right now.

CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 12:34:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed quote: ORIGINAL: ewen21 Doug Bernier up, Nunez to the DL An oblique issue. Really? Nunez must not have worked out enough in the offseason. For a skinny guy, must have been out of shape. Bernier jumps onto the roster again. 9 lives. Erv onto the restricted/suspended to make room. How can any athlete get an oblique injury? Seriously? Working out 101 stuff avoid this injury entirely.

CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 12:36:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed quote: ORIGINAL: ewen21 Doug Bernier up, Nunez to the DL An oblique issue. Really? Nunez must not have worked out enough in the offseason. For a skinny guy, must have been out of shape. Seriously this medical staff needs to be fired. Do these idiots not know how to stretch by now? quote: Bernier jumps onto the roster again. 9 lives. Oh, Whooopeee!!!! Bernier gets another chance. Maybe we should go grab us up some Nick Punto or Drew Butera too! Is Brendan Harris available? How about LewLew Ford? Can we talk Kubel or Bartlett out of retirement? quote: Erv onto the restricted/suspended to make room. Why in the holy shit was he not on this list already? 20 reps each way on a sitting down oblique machine at 100-130 lbs three times per week will ensure this injury could NEVER happen. Not rocket science.

TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 12:40:46 PM)
That simply isn't true. I know people who work out religiously and gotten oblique injuries.

CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 12:41:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Yes, because Schafer and Robinson have such wonderful splits.... Both guys are terrible. At least Hicks has the talent to actually do something. It's time to see him and Rosario BOTH and let's fix this outfield defense and cover up for Torii. And I have no doubt that Hicks won't be any worse this year than Schafer's amazing .562 OPS. In fact, he was better than that both of the last 2 years, with Gardy at the helm. With much better defense. There's no reason for Hicks not to be up right now. Sure there is a reason. If Hicks doesn't play MLB and play it decently, I win $50.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 1:10:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Yes, because Schafer and Robinson have such wonderful splits.... Both guys are terrible. At least Hicks has the talent to actually do something. It's time to see him and Rosario BOTH and let's fix this outfield defense and cover up for Torii. And I have no doubt that Hicks won't be any worse this year than Schafer's amazing .562 OPS. In fact, he was better than that both of the last 2 years, with Gardy at the helm. With much better defense. There's no reason for Hicks not to be up right now. Hicks splits in 2013: RHP .189 LHP .203 2014 RHP .178 LHP .279 That is why he is in the minors & yep Schafer/Robinson splits are better. Hicks isn't getting picked on...he hasn't been able to hit RHP. If both guys have been terrible---what does that make Hicks? The Twins are over .500 with those 2 splitting CF. They went in the tank with Hicks in CF the last 2 years.

TJSweens -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 1:48:48 PM)
The timing for bringing up Hicks should have absolutely nothing to do with Robinson and Schaefer. The only thing that matters to me is that Hicks has had enough success at AAA and enough confidence through that success to be ready for another shot. Hicks has been set up to fail too many times by this organization. If the time is right for him then bring him up. If he would be better served by a couple more weeks of success then give him a couple more weeks. The undynamic duo is irrelevant to the equation.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 2:12:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Yes, because Schafer and Robinson have such wonderful splits.... Both guys are terrible. At least Hicks has the talent to actually do something. It's time to see him and Rosario BOTH and let's fix this outfield defense and cover up for Torii. And I have no doubt that Hicks won't be any worse this year than Schafer's amazing .562 OPS. In fact, he was better than that both of the last 2 years, with Gardy at the helm. With much better defense. There's no reason for Hicks not to be up right now. Hicks splits in 2013: RHP .189 LHP .203 2014 RHP .178 LHP .279 That is why he is in the minors & yep Schafer/Robinson splits are better. Hicks isn't getting picked on...he hasn't been able to hit RHP. If both guys have been terrible---what does that make Hicks? The Twins are over .500 with those 2 splitting CF. They went in the tank with Hicks in CF the last 2 years. They were in the tank two years before Hicks arrived.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 2:14:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens The timing for bringing up Hicks should have absolutely nothing to do with Robinson and Schaefer. The only thing that matters to me is that Hicks has had enough success at AAA and enough confidence through that success to be ready for another shot. Hicks has been set up to fail too many times by this organization. If the time is right for him then bring him up. If he would be better served by a couple more weeks of success then give him a couple more weeks. The undynamic duo is irrelevant to the equation. This was a short term callup for Rosario until Arcia is back. The organization really doesn't want Hicks until Hicks can stay. They don't want a two week or less cup of coffee for him. For Rosario it's a taste. When they have a need that is longer term, they will bring up Hicks. and as you said, give him more success to boost his confidence. It can only help.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 2:56:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Yes, because Schafer and Robinson have such wonderful splits.... Both guys are terrible. At least Hicks has the talent to actually do something. It's time to see him and Rosario BOTH and let's fix this outfield defense and cover up for Torii. And I have no doubt that Hicks won't be any worse this year than Schafer's amazing .562 OPS. In fact, he was better than that both of the last 2 years, with Gardy at the helm. With much better defense. There's no reason for Hicks not to be up right now. Hicks splits in 2013: RHP .189 LHP .203 2014 RHP .178 LHP .279 That is why he is in the minors & yep Schafer/Robinson splits are better. Hicks isn't getting picked on...he hasn't been able to hit RHP. If both guys have been terrible---what does that make Hicks? The Twins are over .500 with those 2 splitting CF. They went in the tank with Hicks in CF the last 2 years. They were in the tank two years before Hicks arrived. Yes but Hicks performance was helping things.

ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 2:56:35 PM)
Oh I know...... Is he out of options?[&o]

Jim Frenette -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 3:40:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Yes, because Schafer and Robinson have such wonderful splits.... Both guys are terrible. At least Hicks has the talent to actually do something. It's time to see him and Rosario BOTH and let's fix this outfield defense and cover up for Torii. And I have no doubt that Hicks won't be any worse this year than Schafer's amazing .562 OPS. In fact, he was better than that both of the last 2 years, with Gardy at the helm. With much better defense. There's no reason for Hicks not to be up right now. Hicks splits in 2013: RHP .189 LHP .203 2014 RHP .178 LHP .279 That is why he is in the minors & yep Schafer/Robinson splits are better. Hicks isn't getting picked on...he hasn't been able to hit RHP. If both guys have been terrible---what does that make Hicks? The Twins are over .500 with those 2 splitting CF. They went in the tank with Hicks in CF the last 2 years. There it is right there Phil. Hicks never hit this well at AAA until this year. Looks like he has figured something out finally. They rushed in up here with the trades of Span and Revere

lylej -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 3:53:42 PM)
Lord help us... Anybody but Bernier...

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 5:03:02 PM)
Oh right...I forget that Schafer and Robinson have been key cogs in our record thus far. [&:][&:] And come on Tim, Mark and Ralph have extensive experience training athletes at the professional level. We should trust their judgment there.

Stacey King -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 5:17:01 PM)
I think I remember seeing a pic of Nunez golfing this off season. He looked pudgy to me.

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 5:53:21 PM)
And seemed to have "old man" legs...

CPAMAN -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 8:50:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Oh right...I forget that Schafer and Robinson have been key cogs in our record thus far. [&:][&:] And come on Tim, Mark and Ralph have extensive experience training athletes at the professional level. We should trust their judgment there. We obviously know more than the jokers they call the trainers for the Twins. There are simple exercises you can do that prevent these ridiculous (absolutely should never happen) injuries that happen to players within the Twins organization. Most of the injuries occur because these players are NOT athletes. They play baseball but are certainly not athletes.

ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 9:03:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens The timing for bringing up Hicks should have absolutely nothing to do with Robinson and Schaefer. The only thing that matters to me is that Hicks has had enough success at AAA and enough confidence through that success to be ready for another shot. Hicks has been set up to fail too many times by this organization. If the time is right for him then bring him up. If he would be better served by a couple more weeks of success then give him a couple more weeks. The undynamic duo is irrelevant to the equation. +1

ewen21 -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 9:04:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz And seemed to have "old man" legs... Did you see that pic of Joe rehabbing in Cedar Rapids last year?

Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 9:06:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Oh right...I forget that Schafer and Robinson have been key cogs in our record thus far. [&:][&:] And come on Tim, Mark and Ralph have extensive experience training athletes at the professional level. We should trust their judgment there. I don't know if you remember last year Dustin yes they are key cogs as they aren't just easy outs. Santana and Escobar replaced Hicks at bats last year.....Florimon was extremely lousy....Hicks was just lousy. The Twins starting pitching hasn't been the best the last 4 years...they can't have guys that are automatic outs. Last year they didn't have a chance by giving away 3 outs every game. THAT A WAY EDDIE>>>>>>>>

djskillz -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 9:55:42 PM)
What are you talking about???? Schafer and Robinson are more automatic outs than Hicks will ever be. AND worse defensively. That's the whole point. Hicks and Rosario should both be playing.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 10:10:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz What are you talking about???? Schafer and Robinson are more automatic outs than Hicks will ever be. AND worse defensively. That's the whole point. Hicks and Rosario should both be playing. Oh don't be offended. Look at Hicks last 2 years....he hasn't approached what either Schafer and Robinson have for current averages. They both have speed and Robinson can play Defense at all 3 OF spots. You wanting Hicks playing OF has blinded you. The Twins are over .500 w/o Hicks and he isn't getting a promotion as long as they are over .500 because he can't hit as well as a Robinson/Schafer platoon yet anyway---those 2 have been far from automatic outs. Schafer and Robinson have been hitting well lately. I see Arcia, Escobar, Rosario, and Buxton blocking Hicks playing time. The Twins had a grand opportunity to trade away Escobar this offseason and just can't let him go.

sixthwi -> RE: Players and prospects III (5/6/2015 10:14:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz What are you talking about???? Schafer and Robinson are more automatic outs than Hicks will ever be. AND worse defensively. That's the whole point. Hicks and Rosario should both be playing. I know he's really not very good but it's tough to take your argument seriously right now when Robinson is batting .340. [&:]

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