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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 8:08:11 AM   
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And the Loons officially join the ranks of other Minnesota sports franchises. Up 2-0 with only 15 minutes between them and the championship game, they have an epic meltdown and lose 3-2. They have reinforced the SMF Minnesota sports mantra of...We can't have nice things.

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 8:14:27 AM   
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Worth noting is that United has that rare Minnesota player that plays big in big games. Emanuel Reynoso had a big playoff run. He figured in every goal in United's playoff run. Three games, one goal and 7 assists.

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 10:04:27 AM   
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I'm confused. United went into the second round of the playoffs against Sporting Kansas City, a team that has thoroughly owned their asses since they entered the league in a stadium where they had never won a game, and won. From my limited knowledge of soccer, 3-0 is pretty much a drubbing.

Didn't somebody tell them that this isn't how we do things? The playbook says that Minnesota teams are supposed to curl up into a fetal position and hope the opponent will be merciful and not embarrass them too badly. Instead they knocked off the #1 seed and are playing in the Western Conference championship game.

Do our traditions mean nothing to them?


Why does every team we play seem to have that 'killer instinct' while Minnesota teams "fold in the cheese"? This is beyond laughable at this point! Sad thing is, when Seattle scored to make it 2-1(still in our favor), I knew it was over!

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 10:07:05 AM   
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And the Loons officially join the ranks of other Minnesota sports franchises. Up 2-0 with only 15 minutes between them and the championship game, they have an epic meltdown and lose 3-2. They have reinforced the SMF Minnesota sports mantra of...We can't have nice things.


Was just reading about it on Canis (a lot of soccer fans over there). At least it sounds more like this was the start of something sustainable and not just a flash in the pan season.
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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 10:27:15 AM   
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And the Loons officially join the ranks of other Minnesota sports franchises. Up 2-0 with only 15 minutes between them and the championship game, they have an epic meltdown and lose 3-2. They have reinforced the SMF Minnesota sports mantra of...We can't have nice things.


Was just reading about it on Canis (a lot of soccer fans over there). At least it sounds more like this was the start of something sustainable and not just a flash in the pan season.

That really could be the case. Emanuel Reynoso is already one of the very best players in the league and he is only 25. Dayne St. Claire became one of the best goalies in the league in his rookie year. The organization has stuck to a philosophy of finding young players on the way up versus looking for names and it seems to be paying off.

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:21:51 PM   
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I watched it and was impressed. Tim is right. Reynoso is the real deal. That free kick goal was top flight. My guess is that the mid level Euro teams will be knocking on the door soon for him. I don't know much about Heath as a coach but he totally failed in that last 20 minutes. When you are up by 2 with little time remaining you are instructed to go in to "time wasting mode".

Get it deep and force them to send long balls down the pitch that are easily defended
When your keeper makes a save don't get up and boot in 3 seconds. Stay down until the ref starts paying attention. Then run around "trying to find someone" for another 30 seconds until you are about to get carded ect....

Instead, we make a save and within 3 seconds the ball is back in play. These are easily teachable and we failed at every level. And the keeper thing is just an example. The whole team failed that last 20. They panicked.
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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:24:05 PM   
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Worth noting is that United has that rare Minnesota player that plays big in big games. Emanuel Reynoso had a big playoff run. He figured in every goal in United's playoff run. Three games, one goal and 7 assists.

Vanek-esque

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:32:37 PM   
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Worth noting is that United has that rare Minnesota player that plays big in big games. Emanuel Reynoso had a big playoff run. He figured in every goal in United's playoff run. Three games, one goal and 7 assists.

Vanek-esque

Who'da thought elevating your game in the playoffs was allowed?

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:40:51 PM   
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It really is shocking to go back and re-look at when we have had our successes
(most are black and white TV)
But I brought up Vanek for a reason
The Gophers went into that natty championship run knowing they were pretty good, but they don't get either title, without their best player, being their best player.
Vanek was simply all over everything those runs. His stamp was on the whole thing.
As you point out, that's probably why we just aren't seeing championships here in anything.
Kirby got it done, Vanek got it done, Morris got it done.
Until someone steps up on our good teams and takes over huge games, we will never win another.
Team sports, yeah ... but driven by great individual performances.

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:46:00 PM   
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Moss had that same killer instinct but had 2 things that worked against him.


He pissed the refs off by showing them up and he had a shitty owner that didn't actually care about winning.
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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:46:38 PM   
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Twolves and Wild have never had that guy or even close. You could argue KG.
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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 12:54:27 PM   
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The Michigan game (ironically) was classic .... it had "Minnesota collapse" written all over it
It's almost odd to watch, all of a sudden, this guy just emerges.
He steps up and refuses to be beaten. Everyone else we had, in that game, had resigned themselves to a postgame of "well, we had a great year"
We are so damn good at that and so used to it.
Vanek chose to change the game, change the program. You can almost see the others going "what the hell is this guy doing?"
You can feel it happening. Sorry, just saw it lately and it's in my mind right now. Was an odd feeling as a Minnesota sports fan.

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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 1:04:13 PM   
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Twolves and Wild have never had that guy or even close. You could argue KG.


100% KG.

He was held back by poor teammates and coaching all but one year here. And he led that Boston team to a ring.

When you get swept while averaging 24 points, 19 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks, its not you holding the team back...
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RE: Soccer Made in Minnesota - 12/8/2020 1:09:35 PM   
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Reynoso is the real deal. That free kick goal was top flight.

That was impressive. Kicked from beyond the human wall. The ball was smoked and just kept tailing on the goalie until it barely tucked inside the goal post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_QlsY-8w9Q

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