From: Minnesota-born and raised
[quote="Chicken Legs"][quote="Jason Dorn"][quote="Chicken Legs"][quote="Jason Dorn"][quote="John Childress"][quote="Jason Dorn"]Hoiseth still convinced the One tricker is through. Could anyone be more wrong. 9-183-1td. NE puts up thirty eight and dominates a dvision opponent/playoff team. Catches a 51 yarder thrown into triple coverage. He his on his way to the Hall. This NE team could be one of the best ever.[/quote] AGREED! What a steal that was. Meanwhile Oakland trades Moss, doens't play Culpepper, and Oakland is being shut out. Couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of suckers.[/quote] A fourth rounder and he took a paycut, how good is that. I doubt Moss agrees to the same terms here or anywhere else, maybe Indy. He has a second chance, everybody deserves that.[/quote] Jason... How does Randy Moss deserve a second chance? Wouldn't that be a THIRD chance? He wore out his welcome in MN, Oakland dumps him....so, now, aren't we at THREE? While I never thought twice about dumping Culpepper, I wish Moss hadn't been traded by the Vikes.[/quote] If you want to split hairs yes it is his third chance, though it wasnt his choice to be traded to argubally the worst franchise in the league. IMO, Oakland wasnt a chance for a player with the pedigree Moss carries, they are in a full rebuild and Moss is at point in his career where competing for the Super Bowl is the only force driving him. This thread was created by the ultimate Moss antagonist, at least within these circles. Hoiseth boasts about his all-knowing knowledge of the game and judge of talent. It is poetic justice that Moss puts up a highlight reel for him with 9-183 and a TD. Hoiseth is on record as claiming Moss to be a cancer, which was in some ways true with Oakland. The truth is Moss is a fierce competetior who is driven to win, stats are secondary as well as pay. He doesnt tolerate mediocrtiy, and voices his displeasure, for that he is scapegoated as an irrational malcontent. I find him to be a leader who stands up for what he believes, for doing so he was tossed out of Minnesota and Oakland. All he ever wanted was McCombs to provide this Vikings a defense to compete for the title, he stood up to him and was traded shortly after. Most fans wanted the same thing. Is he perfect, not even close, a role model, in ways yes and others absolutely not. The bottom line is the man can flat out play football and puts up some big numbers in the right situation. Nobody has ever adjusted to the deep ball the way Moss does, he is the best at it, if that is his trick it sure is one hell of a trick.[/quote] ATTN: Jason D... I'm NOT saying that I hate Moss.....that's BH's gig. I joined this site to get away from BH....as I put up with TWO full days of why the Vikes *ucked up passing on Dwayne Jarrett over Sidney Rice back in April. For whatever reason, the Vikes drafted Rice over Jarrett. But, BH had to tell US ALL why we (MN) went wrong. Again, I don't hate Moss. His 'effort' - at times - makes you wonder what Moss is thinking about?[/quote] You dont come off as a Moss hater at all. The effort thing is a valid argument. Moss has plenty of fault. Does the good outweigh the bad...depends on ones perspective. As for Hoiseth...he created this thread banking on a Moss meltdown, which may still occur and at that point we will hear the I told you so's. As for Moss being done, well 9-183 and a TD sums up that, so does the 4.29 forty he ran, it irks me that somebody who claims to have such vast knowledge and eye for talent refuses to recognizes the gifts Moss has out of spite, very irrational thinking.