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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/15/2026 11:28:16 AM   
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Joe Ryan is not expected to attend TwinsFest, per a team source.

Ryan has been removed from the lineup of Twins players scheduled to make an appearance.


He's not expected to attend Twins games either. Except from the opposing dugout.

Looks like Ryam and the Twins are going all the way to an arbitration hearing over a measly $500K. Apparently the Twins consider $6.35M to be a bridge to far for an all star starting pitcher.

Sounds like we have another Kyle Lohse malcontent on our hands.


Sounds like we have another case of shitty ownership on our hands.
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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/15/2026 11:29:16 AM   
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The Twins added some more infield depth on Wednesday when they claimed Vidal Bruján off waivers from the Braves.

Bruján has appeared at every position but catcher in his Major League career, but the large majority of his starts have come in the middle infield. He turns 28 next month.

A former top-50 overall prospect in the Rays organization, Bruján is a lifetime .199/.267/.276 hitter in 645 Major League plate appearances. He hit .253/.305/.310 last year, spending time with the Cubs, Orioles, and Braves.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/15/2026 11:55:09 AM   
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Joe Ryan is not expected to attend TwinsFest, per a team source.

Ryan has been removed from the lineup of Twins players scheduled to make an appearance.


He's not expected to attend Twins games either. Except from the opposing dugout.

Looks like Ryam and the Twins are going all the way to an arbitration hearing over a measly $500K. Apparently the Twins consider $6.35M to be a bridge to far for an all star starting pitcher.

Sounds like we have another Kyle Lohse malcontent on our hands.


We have cheap ass owners. Ryan is a very good pitcher. about 29 other teams would love to have him. And we're getting into a pissing contest over 500K? Please. The only reason Ryan would be a malcontent is because they are treating him like shit.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/15/2026 2:49:51 PM   
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The Twins added some more infield depth on Wednesday when they claimed Vidal Bruján off waivers from the Braves.

Bruján has appeared at every position but catcher in his Major League career, but the large majority of his starts have come in the middle infield. He turns 28 next month.

A former top-50 overall prospect in the Rays organization, Bruján is a lifetime .199/.267/.276 hitter in 645 Major League plate appearances. He hit .253/.305/.310 last year, spending time with the Cubs, Orioles, and Braves.




Well they did designate Mickey Gasper for assignment to make room on the 40 man roster.

That's a 66 point upgrade! Imagine the season ticket surge.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/16/2026 12:01:54 PM   
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Twinsfan's 75 Greatest Players in Twins History

1. Harmon Killebrew
2. Rod Carew
3. Kirby Puckett
4. Joe Mauer
5. Tony Oliva
6. Johan Santana
7. Bert Blyleven
8. Jim Kaat
9. Kent Hrbek
10. Chuck Knoblauch
11. Brad Radke
12. Bob Allison
13. Torii Hunter
14. Frank Viola
15. Joe Nathan
16. Justin Morneau
17. Byron Buxton
18. Camilo Pascual
19. Gary Gaetti
20. Jim Perry
21. Dave Goltz
22. Corey Koskie
23. Cesar Tovar
24. Kevin Tapani
25. Roy Smalley
26. Earl Battey
27. Rick Aguilera
28. Shane Mack
29. Michael Cuddyer
30. Scott Baker
31. Jose Berrios
32. Larry Hisle
33. Brian Dozier
34. Jorge Polanco
35. Greg Gagne
36. Brian Harper
37. Al Worthington
38. Mudcat Grant
39. Zoilo Versalles
40. Butch Wynegar
41. Dean Chance
42. Dave Boswell
43. Matt Lawton
44. Gary Ward
45. Tom Brunansky
46. Glen Perkins
47. Eddie Guardado
48. Joe Ryan
49. Taylor Rogers
50. Eric Milton
51. Jacque Jones
52. Scott Erickson
53. Rich Rollins
54. Pablo Lopez
55. Eddie Rosario
56. Dan Gladden
57. Jimmie Hall
58. Max Kepler
59. AJ Pierzynski
60. Kyle Gibson
61. Miguel Sano
62. Dan Ford
63. Leo Cardenas
64. Ervin Santana
65. Juan Berenguer
66. Nelson Cruz
67. LaTroy Hawkins
68. Bill Campbell
69. Jerry Koosman
70. John Castino
71. Cristian Guzman
72. Jack Kralick
73. Doug Mientkiewicz
74. Matt Guerrier
75. Bailey Ober

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/16/2026 6:09:41 PM   
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Caratini signs for two years. An actual serviceable backup catcher.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 9:27:06 AM   
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Not a bad attempt. Any list like this is subjective by nature.

A few random changes I’d make. By no means a complete list.

Knoblauch should be much lower.
Larry Hisle should be higher.
Bill Campbell should be higher.
Morneau should be higher.

< Message edited by Karl Juhnke -- 1/17/2026 10:35:36 AM >


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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 9:37:26 AM   
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Not a bad attempt. Any list like this is subjective by nature.

A few random changes I’d make. By no means a complete list.

Knoblauch should be much lower.
Larry Hisle should be higher.
Bill Campbell should be higher.
Morneau should I’ll be higher.

And as always Baker should be lower and Boswell should be higher. And Kepler doesn't belong at all.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 11:28:25 AM   
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Twinsfan's 75 Greatest Players in Twins History



Not a bad attempt. Any list like this is subjective by nature.

A few random changes I’d make. By no means a complete list.

Knoblauch should be much lower.
Larry Hisle should be higher.
Bill Campbell should be higher.
Morneau should I’ll be higher.

And as always Baker should be lower and Boswell should be higher. And Kepler doesn't belong at all.


Agreed. Boswell was objectively better than Baker by any metric you want to use.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 12:52:51 PM   
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Twinsfan's 75 Greatest Players in Twins History



Not a bad attempt. Any list like this is subjective by nature.

A few random changes I’d make. By no means a complete list.

Knoblauch should be much lower.
Larry Hisle should be higher.
Bill Campbell should be higher.
Morneau should I’ll be higher.

And as always Baker should be lower and Boswell should be higher. And Kepler doesn't belong at all.

WTF does "as always" mean in this context?

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 12:55:26 PM   
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And it's very difficult to overlook Max Kepler's contributions both offensively in his earlier season and defensively throughout his Twins career. He had over 20 WAR as a Twin. If anything, I've underrated him. For contrast, Dan Gladden had a career 5.8 WAR with the Twins.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 12:56:36 PM   
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Did you know...Max Kepler has a career WAR higher than Michael Cuddyer?

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 12:57:50 PM   
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Did you know....Pedro Ramos is still alive.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 1:01:43 PM   
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Twinsfan's 75 Greatest Players in Twins History



Not a bad attempt. Any list like this is subjective by nature.

A few random changes I’d make. By no means a complete list.

Knoblauch should be much lower.
Larry Hisle should be higher.
Bill Campbell should be higher.
Morneau should I’ll be higher.

And as always Baker should be lower and Boswell should be higher. And Kepler doesn't belong at all.


Agreed. Boswell was objectively better than Baker by any metric you want to use.

False. You'd be surprised. Baker is totally underrated when you consider the era he pitched in. Baker had approximately 16 career WAR, while Boswell only had about 10.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 1:10:14 PM   
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You know who may be the most underrated Twin of all-time? Rich Becker. He should have been an All-Star in 1996, and could have received MVP votes if people were paying attention. Absolute stud in the field with one of the strongest CF arms in team history, and could also drive the ball with authority. He had a short peak, but he was really good for a few years.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 4:10:05 PM   
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Twinsfan's 75 Greatest Players in Twins History



Not a bad attempt. Any list like this is subjective by nature.

A few random changes I’d make. By no means a complete list.

Knoblauch should be much lower.
Larry Hisle should be higher.
Bill Campbell should be higher.
Morneau should I’ll be higher.

And as always Baker should be lower and Boswell should be higher. And Kepler doesn't belong at all.


Agreed. Boswell was objectively better than Baker by any metric you want to use.

False. You'd be surprised. Baker is totally underrated when you consider the era he pitched in. Baker had approximately 16 career WAR, while Boswell only had about 10.

That only proves what a pointless stat WAR is. Boswell out performed Baker in every meaningful category.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/17/2026 4:13:38 PM   
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Did you know...Max Kepler has a career WAR higher than Michael Cuddyer?

Did you know WAR is a worthless crap stat? I'll take Cuddy over Kepler every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/18/2026 1:50:42 AM   
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You know who may be the most underrated Twin of all-time? Rich Becker. He should have been an All-Star in 1996, and could have received MVP votes if people were paying attention. Absolute stud in the field with one of the strongest CF arms in team history, and could also drive the ball with authority. He had a short peak, but he was really good for a few years.

Thoughts? Or none? Because y'all checked out of the Twins in those years. Sad really.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/18/2026 7:41:12 AM   
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No, what's really sad is your incessant "I'm a better Twins than all of you" bullshit.

As to Becker, I had high hopes after he broke out in 96. I wouldn't go as far as all star and MVP votes. He fell off in 97 and was gone in 98. I don't know that he had enough of a run to say that it was underrated.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/18/2026 10:10:48 AM   
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No, what's really sad is your incessant "I'm a better Twins than all of you" bullshit.

As to Becker, I had high hopes after he broke out in 96. I wouldn't go as far as all star and MVP votes. He fell off in 97 and was gone in 98. I don't know that he had enough of a run to say that it was underrated.


And then bounced around to 5 teams in 3 years and was done.

So his mark was one pretty good year really.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/18/2026 10:45:15 AM   
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Twinsfan's 75 Greatest Players in Twins History

1. Harmon Killebrew
2. Rod Carew
3. Kirby Puckett
4. Joe Mauer
5. Tony Oliva
6. Johan Santana
7. Bert Blyleven
8. Jim Kaat
9. Kent Hrbek
10. Chuck Knoblauch
11. Brad Radke
12. Bob Allison
13. Torii Hunter
14. Frank Viola
15. Joe Nathan
16. Justin Morneau
17. Byron Buxton
18. Camilo Pascual
19. Gary Gaetti
20. Jim Perry
21. Dave Goltz
22. Corey Koskie
23. Cesar Tovar
24. Kevin Tapani
25. Roy Smalley
26. Earl Battey
27. Rick Aguilera
28. Shane Mack
29. Michael Cuddyer
30. Scott Baker
31. Jose Berrios
32. Larry Hisle
33. Brian Dozier
34. Jorge Polanco
35. Greg Gagne
36. Brian Harper
37. Al Worthington
38. Mudcat Grant
39. Zoilo Versalles
40. Butch Wynegar
41. Dean Chance
42. Dave Boswell
43. Matt Lawton
44. Gary Ward
45. Tom Brunansky
46. Glen Perkins
47. Eddie Guardado
48. Joe Ryan
49. Taylor Rogers
50. Eric Milton
51. Jacque Jones
52. Scott Erickson
53. Rich Rollins
54. Pablo Lopez
55. Eddie Rosario
56. Dan Gladden
57. Jimmie Hall
58. Max Kepler
59. AJ Pierzynski
60. Kyle Gibson
61. Miguel Sano
62. Dan Ford
63. Leo Cardenas
64. Ervin Santana
65. Juan Berenguer
66. Nelson Cruz
67. LaTroy Hawkins
68. Bill Campbell
69. Jerry Koosman
70. John Castino
71. Cristian Guzman
72. Jack Kralick
73. Doug Mientkiewicz
74. Matt Guerrier
75. Bailey Ober

Why doesn’t your list include the Washington Senators?

The **top players in Minnesota Twins history** (including the franchise's time as the Washington Senators prior to 1961, as is standard for franchise records) ranked by career **Wins Above Replacement (WAR)** from Baseball-Reference (bWAR) are led by legends like Walter Johnson, Rod Carew, and Harmon Killebrew.

Baseball-Reference provides detailed leaderboards for batting and pitching WAR separately, but combined franchise career WAR rankings are commonly derived from them. Comprehensive top-75 lists aren't always published directly in one place (especially since many lower-ranked players have minimal WAR), but here's a synthesized overview based on reliable sources up to early 2025, focusing on the highest-ranked players. The franchise has many players with positive WAR, but the top tiers are dominated by Hall of Famers and long-time contributors.

### Top 25 Minnesota Twins Franchise Career WAR Leaders (Approximate, bWAR)
These reflect consensus from Baseball-Reference data, SABR articles, and historical analyses (values are approximate and can vary slightly with updates; pitching WAR for early eras like Walter Johnson's is exceptionally high due to innings pitched):

1. **Walter Johnson** (P) – ~152-164 WAR (franchise all-time leader, dominant in Senators era)
2. **Rod Carew** (2B/1B) – ~63-65 WAR (position player leader since 1961 move)
3. **Harmon Killebrew** (3B/1B) – ~60-63 WAR
4. **Joe Mauer** (C/1B) – ~55+ WAR (highest among modern-era players)
5. **Kirby Puckett** (OF) – ~51 WAR
6. **Sam Rice** (OF) – ~50+ WAR (Senators era)
7. **Johan Santana** (P) – ~40-45 WAR (peak dominance in 2000s)
8. **Tony Oliva** (OF) – ~40+ WAR
9. **Kent Hrbek** (1B) – ~38-40 WAR
10. **Bert Blyleven** (P) – ~35+ WAR (with Twins)
11. **Gary Gaetti** (3B) – ~30+ WAR
12. **Bob Allison** (OF) – ~30+ WAR
13. **Brad Radke** (P) – ~30+ WAR
14. **Joe Cronin** (SS) – ~25-30 WAR (Senators era)
15. **Goose Goslin** (OF) – ~25+ WAR (Senators era)
16. **Justin Morneau** (1B) – ~25+ WAR
17. **Corey Koskie** (3B) – ~22+ WAR
18. **Cecil Griffith / others** – lower but notable
19-25: Include players like **Chuck Knoblauch** (~20-25 WAR), **Torii Hunter** (~20+ WAR), **Byron Buxton** (rising), **Joe Nathan** (reliever), **Rick Aguilera**, **Frank Viola**, **Jim Kaat**, **Zolio Versalles**, and **Cesar Tovar**.

### Notes on Top 75
- The top 10-15 are very stable and feature Hall of Famers or near-Hall players.
- From ~25-75, WAR drops into the 10-20 range (e.g., players like **Chuck Knoblauch**, **Torii Hunter**, **Michael Cuddyer**, **Brian Dozier**, **Joe Kuhel**, **Buddy Myer**, **Don Mincher**, **Earl Battey**, **Jim Perry**, **Camilo Pascual**, modern contributors like **Jorge Polanco**, **Miguel Sano**, and pitchers like **Jim Hughes**, **Dean Chance**).
- Many players in the 50-75 range have 5-15 WAR, including solid role players, relievers, and short-tenure standouts (e.g., **Jack Morris** in his single year, **Mark Guthrie**, etc.).
- For Minnesota-only era (1961-present), the list shifts dramatically: Carew #1, Killebrew #2, Mauer #3, Puckett #4, Santana tops pitchers, etc. Walter Johnson and early Senators stars are excluded in that view.
- WAR values are from Baseball-Reference (bWAR); FanGraphs (fWAR) can differ slightly, especially for pitchers.

For the most precise and up-to-date full list (including the top 75+ with exact values, years, and positions), check these sources directly:
- Baseball-Reference Minnesota Twins batting career leaders: https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/leaders_bat.shtml (sort by WAR)
- Pitching: https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/leaders_pitch.shtml
- Franchise encyclopedia: https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/

These pages allow sorting by WAR to see the full rankings. The Twins franchise has a rich history blending early-1900s dominance with modern stars! If you'd like details on a specific player or era (e.g., post-1961 only), let me know.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/18/2026 1:11:07 PM   
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Because it's my list and I can do it how I want it. I don't care about the Washington Senators.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/19/2026 10:12:50 AM   
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No, what's really sad is your incessant "I'm a better Twins than all of you" bullshit.


It's a schtick. Thought you'd figured that out by now.

You have season ticketholder envy? /s

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/19/2026 11:00:51 AM   
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Harold Reynolds just put out an all-time Twins lineup. Harmon Killebrew didn't make it.

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RE: General Twins Talk - 1/19/2026 11:52:51 AM   
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No, what's really sad is your incessant "I'm a better Twins than all of you" bullshit.


It's a schtick. Thought you'd figured that out by now.

You have season ticketholder envy? /s


I didn't miss going not going to any game last year.

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