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RE: Gopher Football - 9/2/2010 9:40:04 PM

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Whew. Gophers run out the clock and win 24-17. Impressed with the running game. Disappointed with the passing game, although they came through when the chips were down. Defense is a work in progress (as expected). Good for Jon Hoese out of Glencoe-Silver Lake. His dad had a stroke this week, and he wasn't even sure to play.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/2/2010 9:44:13 PM

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Wow ESPN has Gophers time of possession as Gophers 45:34 - MTSU 14:26.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/2/2010 11:33:51 PM

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Wonderful performance by the OLine and Jon Hoese. Great kid. Went thru hell this week, and scored 3 TDs and cemented the game. He is what college FB is about.
The rest of the team needs serious work.
No imagination. A robot at QB could have done what Weber did. He made exactly 2 decent plays, the 2 third-down conversions, one a simple sideline out-and-up to Hoese, and the tightrope at the sticks to McKnight.
Otherwise, did nothing.
MTSU is a team that plays defense with 210 lb linemen and 195 lb backers. They crammed 9 and 10 in the box and we were scared to try to make plays. With a QB who has started over 50 college games.
Totally, totally unacceptable. The game tonight was not about pounding MTSU, it should have been about honing a complete offense that can compete in the toughest Big Ten schedule in years.
More mistakes on ST and simple execution. This coaching staff has to get its act together. Ferentz is extended at Iowa until 2020. Hawkeye fans are lucky bastards. You should have to watch our coaching for a year.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 1:29:00 AM

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Btw ... despite all my whining, it was a nice win.
Beats the hell out of the alternative.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 4:46:24 AM

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It was a nice win. They really played with heart and did what they had to do. I was complaining about the unimaginative offense and conservative playcalling, but they did wear the defense down in the second half. Two long time consuming drives in the second half. Even though they only got a fg from the 90+ yards drive it was really a turning point and momentum changer, to start from your own 1 and march down the field making clutch plays along the way.

A lot of room for improvement, but a nice win.

And one other point to get off my chest. Those radio types who were complaining all week about Middle Tennessee and ridiculed the Gophers because this game was considered a challenge really did nothing but embarrass themselves. This was a team that went 10-3 and played a bowl game a year ago. In the final power rankings they ended up ahead of all but 4 Big 10 teams. No, that does not make it like playing Alabama, Florida or USC. But this is a high caliber non-conference opponent, especially on the road. It's the dangerous kind of non-conference game that no coach likes to play.

For people who make their living at observing and commenting on sports to be oblivious to this is just lazy and stupid.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 6:21:37 AM

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I hope you are right and I am wrong, karl ... but I saw the opposite.
That (MTSU) just did not look like much of a DI team to me. Too small at the critical positions.
They were completely wiped out by the start of the 4th.
Using an un-tested back-up at QB. And they still gave us enough of a game.
Thats where my anxiety is coming from. I'm so tired of fielding a team that cannot compete in the Big Ten. My patience is finally running out after almost 50 years of bleeding maroon and gold.
We need to have a special year, soon.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 9:13:11 AM

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I hope you are right and I am wrong, karl ... but I saw the opposite.
That (MTSU) just did not look like much of a DI team to me. Too small at the critical positions.
They were completely wiped out by the start of the 4th.
Using an un-tested back-up at QB. And they still gave us enough of a game.
Thats where my anxiety is coming from. I'm so tired of fielding a team that cannot compete in the Big Ten. My patience is finally running out after almost 50 years of bleeding maroon and gold.
We need to have a special year, soon.

I completely agree with those observations. There's a lot that they can improve on. I'm just as tired of mediocrity as you are. My only objection was how this opener was being previewed all week as a joke by the media (except the actual football writers who knew better). Well look around. We played arguably the most legit opponent of any Big 10 team except for one or two.

That's all I took issue with. The notion that Brewster should somehow apologize for getting his team fired up to play at Middle Tennessee St. Well what else is he supposed to do?

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 9:59:38 AM

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It was good to see Bennett back to his freshman season form before the knee injury.

All the complaining of Weber, he was 10-17 and I saw a few his receivers just dropped.

This is the opening game and there is natural rust that you can't gwet off just with practice. And I agree MTS is a quality team that beat a good So Miss in a bowl game

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 11:07:19 AM

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Forget his stat line. I'm with SMF, Weber was brutal again. A typical example is when they blitzed. Bennett picks up the free man, jacks him up, and Weber spazzes his way in to a sack anyway. Any decent college QB (with that amount of games) would destroy a team that got creamed on a blitz like that. Us, negative 8.....

The D better get it's shit together also or it's going to be a really long year. I'm talking maybe 3 wins.

. As painful as that is to admit. The one nice thing, as mentioned, was the running game but lets be honest. When your FB is your best skill position guy, you have a ton of trouble brewing (pun intended).

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 12:02:42 PM

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Thoughts

To me, the offensive game plan was pretty solid. Run the ball & keep the MTSU offense off the field. They talked about the heat all week...and with the official temp at 89 degrees, this was a great idea. It looked like their defense did get tired at the end. We held the ball over 45 minutes to their less than 15. 67 rushing attempts vesus 17 passing attempts worked for me for this game.

I thought Weber was just ok. He managed the game fine and had no turnovers. On most throws, he had someone on top of him. Certainly did miss some ....but overall just ok.

The pass blocking was downright poor. I'll cut Ed Olson some slack for being a Freshman and playing LT, but no excuses for the other guys. They have to work harder on this.

I know the defense will frustrate me the first half of this season. Last night they trotted out 11 new starters, and just one of them was a Senior. They made the mistakes I expected (some missed tackles mostly because of over-running the play, missed assignments, not lining up correctly, etc). The biggest area of concern for me was the lack of pass rush. No sacks and not a lot of hurries. I wish Weber had the time Kilgore did. We must improve this. I'm calling out Optimus Prime....buddy....we need you to flip the light switch, get into the starting lineup, an dominate! Sooner than later. It does look like we have some speed, which is good. This defense could be interesting in a couple of years.

I'm sticking by my 7-6 prediction. 3-1 in the non-conference, 3-5 in the Big-10, and minor bowl win. I think we will be a "tough out" most weeks for everyone not named Ohio State.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 3:46:53 PM

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Forget his stat line. I'm with SMF, Weber was brutal again. A typical example is when they blitzed. Bennett picks up the free man, jacks him up, and Weber spazzes his way in to a sack anyway. Any decent college QB (with that amount of games) would destroy a team that got creamed on a blitz like that. Us, negative 8.....

The D better get it's shit together also or it's going to be a really long year. I'm talking maybe 3 wins. . As painful as that is to admit. The one nice thing, as mentioned, was the running game but lets be honest. When your FB is your best skill position guy, you have a ton of trouble brewing (pun intended).

He's also had a new offensive coordinator every year he's been there

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 9:28:58 PM

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Forget his stat line. I'm with SMF, Weber was brutal again. A typical example is when they blitzed. Bennett picks up the free man, jacks him up, and Weber spazzes his way in to a sack anyway. Any decent college QB (with that amount of games) would destroy a team that got creamed on a blitz like that. Us, negative 8.....

The D better get it's shit together also or it's going to be a really long year. I'm talking maybe 3 wins. . As painful as that is to admit. The one nice thing, as mentioned, was the running game but lets be honest. When your FB is your best skill position guy, you have a ton of trouble brewing (pun intended).

He's also had a new offensive coordinator every year he's been there

And all the snaps with the first team for 4 years, and all the starts for 4 years and all the breaks and opportuntiies ... and he isn't progressing at all.
Jeffs post pointed out exactly what I saw.... simple technique and skill at this point in his career should have taken over at several points, where all he had to do was side-step or step up into the pocket, instead, he turtles like a first-year starter and takes the sack. Against a poor pass rush. The good Big Ten teams will eat him alive. He's had plenty of games like last night, where he should have shined. Instead, he disappeared. Their QB started his first game and looked more poised and more effecient. Unacceptable.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:15:53 PM

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The D better get it's shit together also or it's going to be a really long year. I'm talking maybe 3 wins. As painful as that is to admit. The one nice thing, as mentioned, was the running game but lets be honest. When your FB is your best skill position guy, you have a ton of trouble brewing (pun intended).

I think the defense will improve steadily and be fine. They are not as experienced, but over all they are are bigger, faster and more physically gifted than last year's D.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:22:39 PM

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Right on, Tim ... was hoping I wasn't crazy ... the D looked that way to me also. Better potential. I see some hope there, and as Jeff says , they'll need to get a lot better, reallllllll fast.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:26:26 PM

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Forget his stat line. I'm with SMF, Weber was brutal again. A typical example is when they blitzed. Bennett picks up the free man, jacks him up, and Weber spazzes his way in to a sack anyway. Any decent college QB (with that amount of games) would destroy a team that got creamed on a blitz like that. Us, negative 8.....

The D better get it's shit together also or it's going to be a really long year. I'm talking maybe 3 wins. . As painful as that is to admit. The one nice thing, as mentioned, was the running game but lets be honest. When your FB is your best skill position guy, you have a ton of trouble brewing (pun intended).

He's also had a new offensive coordinator every year he's been there

And all the snaps with the first team for 4 years, and all the starts for 4 years and all the breaks and opportuntiies ... and he isn't progressing at all.
Jeffs post pointed out exactly what I saw.... simple technique and skill at this point in his career should have taken over at several points, where all he had to do was side-step or step up into the pocket, instead, he turtles like a first-year starter and takes the sack. Against a poor pass rush. The good Big Ten teams will eat him alive. He's had plenty of games like last night, where he should have shined. Instead, he disappeared. Their QB started his first game and looked more poised and more effecient. Unacceptable.

Exactly. And, believe me, I've wanted to pull/like Weber since he's been here. Sorry if it seems like I'm daisy chaining off of your posts but I thought the same thing. I said multiple times during the game that it was really sad that a guy who shouldn't see the field, for all intensive purposes, outshines your now 4 year guy.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:29:59 PM

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Nothing wrong with agreeing with me .... is there?

I WANT Weber to do well, (mostly because our coaching staff will not change their mind about who can run this team).
Its just ridiculous that he isn't progressing more.
He's had some really good games, but they seem like ages ago. He's no longer a pup, he's a seasoned, experienced QB who plays nothing like it.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:30:31 PM

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I hope so too guys. The way the O looked was down right scary. And I mean "lets beg Bevell to take over"...SCARY. We are going to need a stout D to make a mediocre bowl game. The program built some momentum based off of the stadium but the hype faded. I hate to see what happens if we go 4-7/3-8-ish.

The great thing was the rushing attack but lets be honest. We aren't running like that against 95% of the teams we face.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:33:20 PM

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I hope so too guys. The way the O looked was down right scary. And I mean "lets beg Bevell to take over"...SCARY. We are going to need a stout D to make a mediocre bowl game. The program built some momentum based off of the stadium but the hype faded. I hate to see what happens if we go 4-7/3-8-ish.

The great thing was the rushing attack but lets be honest. We aren't running like that against 95% of the teams we face.

Yep MTSU is a good story, but they are in the South Dakota-class when it comes to size on D.
Too light-in-shorts to stop any real DI program's run game.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2010 10:33:57 PM

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Sorry man. Not an insult

. Just don't want to seem like your little pug.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/4/2010 12:17:17 PM

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1-0 and on to the South Dakota game. A very quick scouting report & I'm not real impressed. They return about half of the starters from a 5-5 team last year. Not sure what type of offense they run, but appear to have a dual threat QB starting his first game. Best player is a 190 pound running back. Defensively, it looks like a 3-4 & only two returning starters in that front seven. They return two smallish ILB's and both safetys. South Dakota plays Central Florida in a few hours, and it wouldn't surprise me if UCF wins by about 30.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/4/2010 8:04:12 PM

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Yep, this is not North Dakota ... there is no reason for USD to move the ball on us at all, or for them to stop us at all.
If we do not immmediately impose our will on that squad, we are in deeeep trouble.
Not a knock on USD, they have a solid program for the size school they are. But hte differences between the levels BETTER be evident next week.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/4/2010 9:12:58 PM

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The one thing to overlook is the Dakota's ALWAYS give MN a hell of a game. They are so pumped up for not getting scholarships it's usually a "tougher than needed be" game.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/5/2010 10:06:31 AM

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Well Seantrel Henderson got into the Miami game. He is currently #3 LT on the depth chart. Could have been starting from day 1 here, but he was apparently blown away by the Miami night life when Bryant McInnie blew off Pro Bowl practice to take the young man clubbing.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/9/2010 12:48:33 AM

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Sweet game ball presentation after the game, shown on the Brewster Show this week.
If you didn't catch it, try to .
Pretty touching. Real respect for Mr Hoese in that lockerroom. Sad the family lost a loved one, but you can see Jon really draws strength from his football family.
Better be buckled up and ready for the "Yotes ... they will give all.

Terry Hoese passed away on Monday night, according to Gophers coach Tim Brewster and the family's journal on the CaringBridge website.
Jon Hoese rushed for three touchdowns and made several key plays in Minnesota's win at Middle Tennessee last week while his dad was hospitalized and comatose.
Brewster said Tuesday he's not sure whether Hoese will play for the Gophers this week against South Dakota. Hoese was given the game ball last week in an emotional locker room celebration, when teammates lifted him on their shoulders and chanted his name.Quarterback Adam Weber is Hoese's roommate and a fellow team captain. Weber says Hoese's father was one of the Gophers' biggest fans.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/9/2010 10:38:00 AM

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I saw that show last night and you are right, having teammates like that gives a person the strength to go on.

Also enjoyed seeing Natalie Kane again

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