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RE:NFL News - 10/22/2007 11:11:03 PM   
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[quote="Trekgeekscott"][quote="djskilbr"][quote="So.Mn.Fan"]Huge game tonight. Undefeated Colts vs 4-1 Jags. Should be a good one. maybe? hopefully? Colts being ignored with the Pats hot start, not good to tick off the defending champs.[/quote] I'm almost picking the Jags actually. The key, like the Vikes, is to run/stop the run. They should be able to do both against Indy. We will see.[/quote] The difference between the Colts and Vikes is that when you stop their run game, the Colts still have a pretty good QB to take advantage of the weaker passing defense. Jacksonville always plays the Colts well. This could easily be a trap game for the Colts if they aren't cautious. New England is right around the corner. Who wouldn't be looking ahead to playing that juggernaut?[/quote] Definitely. Not saying it will be easy. Just that they match up pretty well overall. To me the key against the Colts has always been to be able to play ball control and just punish them/wear them down with the run. The Jags SHOULD be able to do that in spades, especially with Booger out for the year.
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RE:NFL News - 10/22/2007 11:11:31 PM   
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[quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] They'll ask him that after the SuperBowl.
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RE:NFL News - 10/22/2007 11:55:20 PM   
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[quote="djskilbr"][quote="So.Mn.Fan"]Huge game tonight. Undefeated Colts vs 4-1 Jags. Should be a good one. maybe? hopefully? Colts being ignored with the Pats hot start, not good to tick off the defending champs.[/quote] I'm almost picking the Jags actually. The key, like the Vikes, is to run/stop the run. They should be able to do both against Indy. We will see.[/quote] The Jags are the Vikes of the AFC, except they have an average to decent QB while the Vikes have crap. On offense, both teams have 2 good backs, one being very explosive. Both O-Lines are big, receivers are talented yet unproven. Both teams have very strong interior D-Line, decent DEs. LBs are strong and physical on both teams. Secondary is good, corners are physical while safeties get beat bad at times. The similarities are quite striking but looking at the records the Jags are 4-1 in the best division in football while the Vikes are 2-4 in the weak NFC.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 12:25:16 AM   
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[quote="Rob Viking"][quote="djskilbr"][quote="So.Mn.Fan"]Huge game tonight. Undefeated Colts vs 4-1 Jags. Should be a good one. maybe? hopefully? Colts being ignored with the Pats hot start, not good to tick off the defending champs.[/quote] I'm almost picking the Jags actually. The key, like the Vikes, is to run/stop the run. They should be able to do both against Indy. We will see.[/quote] The Jags are the Vikes of the AFC, except they have an average to decent QB while the Vikes have crap. On offense, both teams have 2 good backs, one being very explosive. Both O-Lines are big, receivers are talented yet unproven. Both teams have very strong interior D-Line, decent DEs. LBs are strong and physical on both teams. Secondary is good, corners are physical while safeties get beat bad at times. The similarities are quite striking but looking at the records the Jags are 4-1 in the best division in football while the Vikes are 2-4 in the weak NFC.[/quote] We'd be no worse than 5-1 with Garrard. 104.7 rating, 66% completions, 6 TDs, 0 INTs.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 12:33:28 AM   
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[quote="David Levine"][quote="Rob Viking"][quote="djskilbr"][quote="So.Mn.Fan"]Huge game tonight. Undefeated Colts vs 4-1 Jags. Should be a good one. maybe? hopefully? Colts being ignored with the Pats hot start, not good to tick off the defending champs.[/quote] I'm almost picking the Jags actually. The key, like the Vikes, is to run/stop the run. They should be able to do both against Indy. We will see.[/quote] The Jags are the Vikes of the AFC, except they have an average to decent QB while the Vikes have crap. On offense, both teams have 2 good backs, one being very explosive. Both O-Lines are big, receivers are talented yet unproven. Both teams have very strong interior D-Line, decent DEs. LBs are strong and physical on both teams. Secondary is good, corners are physical while safeties get beat bad at times. The similarities are quite striking but looking at the records the Jags are 4-1 in the best division in football while the Vikes are 2-4 in the weak NFC.[/quote] We'd be no worse than 5-1 with Garrard. 104.7 rating, 66% completions, 6 TDs, 0 INTs.[/quote] Yep, I noted this difference in the last day or two. The big difference is QB, no question. Garrard/TJack are kind of similar too. Pretty athletic, but not pure runners, etc. Basically Garrard is TJack's BEST case scenario.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 2:10:09 AM   
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[quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] And we know he didn't how? He could have advanced scouts in the stands filming their defensive coaches or any other new scheme. :whistling:
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 2:13:43 AM   
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True Jim, and the skeptic in me thinks that he may not have really turned everything over to the NFL after all.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 2:16:52 AM   
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[quote="Jim Frenette"][quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] And we know he didn't how? He could have advanced scouts in the stands filming their defensive coaches or any other new scheme. :whistling:[/quote] And we know others aren't doing the same thing how? I firmly believe that pretty much every team has SOMETHING going on there. There is too much money and too many egos in the NFL for it not to if you ask me.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 3:48:09 AM   
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[quote="djskilbr"][quote="Jim Frenette"][quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] And we know he didn't how? He could have advanced scouts in the stands filming their defensive coaches or any other new scheme. :whistling:[/quote] And we know others aren't doing the same thing how? I firmly believe that pretty much every team has SOMETHING going on there. There is too much money and too many egos in the NFL for it not to if you ask me.[/quote] Not Brad Childress. He and his staff look clueless, how could anyone insinuate they are cheating?
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 4:02:04 AM   
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[quote="Trekgeekscott"][quote="djskilbr"][quote="Jim Frenette"][quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] And we know he didn't how? He could have advanced scouts in the stands filming their defensive coaches or any other new scheme. :whistling:[/quote] And we know others aren't doing the same thing how? I firmly believe that pretty much every team has SOMETHING going on there. There is too much money and too many egos in the NFL for it not to if you ask me.[/quote] Not Brad Childress. He and his staff look clueless, how could anyone insinuate they are cheating?[/quote] True. Maybe they should start?
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 8:54:11 AM   
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[quote="djskilbr"][quote="Jim Frenette"][quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] And we know he didn't how? He could have advanced scouts in the stands filming their defensive coaches or any other new scheme. :whistling:[/quote] And we know others aren't doing the same thing how? I firmly believe that pretty much every team has SOMETHING going on there. There is too much money and too many egos in the NFL for it not to if you ask me.[/quote] The excuse that someone else is doing it too, even though it's a phantom someone and no one else has been caught, has never been an excuse that worked for children. It should definitely not work for an NFL head coach. In a league filled with egos, Bill B is the biggest, most paranoid one. There may be other offenders, but they neither less nor excuse his disgusting cheating, IMO. It was a blight on the league, IMO. Barry Bonds gets crucified for taking steroids. Bill B breaks the rules, and flat out cheats in a way that calls into question the integrity of every game he ever coached, and most people just don't care. Frankly I am amazed. The NFL did a really good job sweeping this under the rug. I cannot wait until karma bites him in the ass.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 8:56:03 AM   
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[quote="djskilbr"][quote="Lynn G."]I just so much want someone, in one of Belichick's post game press conferences, to ask the question - "does it feel any better to win a game without cheating?"[/quote] They'll ask him that after the SuperBowl.[/quote] And he'll laugh and say the NFL misinterpreted the rule, and he kept doing it anyway. Actually, I would not be suprised to see them lose to Indy. Every one is sleeping on them, IMO.
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 12:27:23 PM   
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quote:

Barry Bonds gets crucified for taking steroids. Bill B breaks the rules, and flat out cheats in a way that calls into question the integrity of every game he ever coached, and most people just don't care.
I agree There is no consistency in sports with regards to punishment for cheaters. Look also at how quicly the NBA swept the referee issue away
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RE:NFL News - 10/23/2007 2:48:06 PM   
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Denver-Green Bay Kickoff Could be Pushed Back Tue Oct 23, 2007 The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports a possible conflict with Game 5 of the World Series could result in a 30-minute alteration in the Denver-Green Bay kickoff. If the series between Boston and Denver goes beyond four games, the NFL announced that the Monday night football game would start at 7 p.m. (CDT) rather than 7:30.
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RE:NFL News - 10/24/2007 11:56:30 PM   
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Bengals Ticket Takers Accused of Admitting Fans without Tickets Wed Oct 24, 2007 The Dayton Daily News reports two ticket takers have been charged with accepting money from fans and letting them into a sold-out Cincinnati Bengals game. Timothy Clifford, 42, of Lawrenceburg, Ind., and Keith Johnson, 44, of Cincinnati, were charged with theft for allegedly accepting $20 from each of five people who didn't have tickets for the Bengals' game Sunday against the New York Jets. Both men were arrested at the stadium on Sunday. They face up to 180 days in jail on the theft charge. They were allowed to remain free on bond until court hearings on Nov. 5.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 2:23:47 AM   
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It's time to change playoff format John Czarnecki FOXSports.com One Indianapolis columnist is already billing next week's Patriots-Colts showdown as the Game of the Century. But what worries me is that the Patriots, winners of 10 straight regular-season games, and the Colts, winners of 11 straight, will make this season's Super Bowl irrelevant. They are far and away the game's two best teams — the other 30 teams are playing for third place — and they can't play in a February rematch on Arizona's neutral turf. This situation bothered me in the late 1980s, too, when the NFC was the dominant conference and had the league's best teams. Who can forget John Elway's Broncos losing by 32 and 45 points on their second and third trips to the Super Bowl? Or Dallas whipping Buffalo twice and then Steve Young and the 49ers simply toying with the San Diego Chargers? But the NFL loves its traditions and has remained allegiant to the NFC and the AFC, even though we all know that the Colts used to belong to the mighty NFL and were upset by Joe Namath and the AFL's Jets in the first great Super Bowl before the merger. Back in 1970, decent money changed hands and the owners of the Steelers, Colts and the Browns moved from the NFL to be with the teams of the old AFL, forming the AFC. But while tradition has its place, the league has shown a willingness to break with it from time to time. With regular-season games now being played in London and with the Bills arguing that they need to play at least one game in Toronto every season (probably starting in 2009 after the CFL season ends), what's the harm in simply seeding the league's division winners in order to, hopefully, get the game's two best teams in the league's showcase event? For example, here would have been last season's playoff pairings after the wild-card games: San Diego would have hosted Seattle, Chicago would have hosted New Orleans, Baltimore would have hosted Philadelphia and the Colts would have hosted the Patriots. Who knows what would have happened from there? But I would bet anyone that the Bears wouldn't have ended up in New Orleans. Looking at the BCS with its five computers and three human polls, there must be one simple formula that could figure out how to pair the final four teams in the NFL. The NFL is a quarterback-driven league and the best quarterbacks happen to be in the AFC right now. Just look at what Tom Brady is doing and it's hard to believe that this three-time winning Super Bowl quarterback has never won the league's MVP award. Right now Brady is on pace to throw 61 touchdown passes — of course, that won't happen — and he's operating a passing offense that is 84 yards better per game than the average NFL team. The Pats are demolishing teams while becoming the first team in league history to win their first seven games by 17 points or more. They are No. 1 in offense and No. 4 in total defense. The Colts are close, but more important they rank No. 3 in total defense and this unit, with healthy safety Bob Sanders, is much improved over last season. The Colts are faster and quicker on defense than they were a year ago. This is why the Colts are actually a better overall team than the one that won last season's Super Bowl. But when you take a closer look at Monday night's win at Jacksonville, you can also tell that Peyton Manning was playing conservatively. Yes, the Colts won because they knocked David Garrard from the game and also because Jags coach Jack Del Rio abandoned his running formula for a passing one. In the second half, you could have accused Manning of simply managing the game as he played clock ball, running out his possessions with Joseph Addai and CFL newcomer Kenton Keith. If the Colts have any new throwing formations or tricks, you can bet they are saving them for the Patriots. When the season began the five best teams were supposed to be the Patriots, Colts, Chargers, Bears and Cowboys. The first two have lived up to the hype. The Chargers look like they still may win their division and the Bears are — heaven forbid — behind the Packers and Lions in the NFC North. The Cowboys started unbeaten, but wilted in the fourth quarter at Texas Stadium against the Patriots and then looked rather pedestrian against the one-dimensional Minnesota Vikings. If the forward pass was outlawed, the Vikings would be the best team in the NFL. Dallas suddenly must feel threatened by the new-look Giants, who figure to whip the Dolphins in London and then wait two weeks before hosting Dallas in a showdown game. But whoever wins that game and proclaims itself to be the best of the NFC, I don't see how either one could contend with New England or Indianapolis in a championship game. People will say that this AFC dominance will eventually end and that the NFC will return to glory. Well, a playoff seeding system would work then, too. Inter-conference playoff pairings could add new excitement to the January games. It's an idea worth considering simply because it could end up being a television ratings hit. And isn't that what the NFL is all about?
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 1:59:39 PM   
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I like that idea a lot.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 2:18:40 PM   
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If the forward pass was outlawed, the Vikings would be the best team in the NFL. I'll add this to the "what we want the NFL to change" thread. :lol:
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 4:26:06 PM   
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[quote="Duane Sampson"]Bengals Ticket Takers Accused of Admitting Fans without Tickets Wed Oct 24, 2007 The Dayton Daily News reports two ticket takers have been charged with accepting money from fans and letting them into a sold-out Cincinnati Bengals game. Timothy Clifford, 42, of Lawrenceburg, Ind., and Keith Johnson, 44, of Cincinnati, were charged with theft for allegedly accepting $20 from each of five people who didn't have tickets for the Bengals' game Sunday against the New York Jets. Both men were arrested at the stadium on Sunday. They face up to 180 days in jail on the theft charge. They were allowed to remain free on bond until court hearings on Nov. 5.[/quote] That is way overboard. Fine them a few hundred dollars and fire them but jail time? sheesh
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 4:29:17 PM   
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I will pass on the re-seeding idea. With this system there are half a dozen NFC cities that can realistically hope for the Super Bowl. That keeps excitement up. In the proposed system it would most likely kill all excitement for the playoffs until the Super Bowl.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 4:52:54 PM   
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[quote="John Childress"]That is way overboard. Fine them a few hundred dollars and fire them but jail time? sheesh[/quote] Agreed. Theft? Really? The game was sold out! The team wouldn't get the cash anyway! Not to say it isn't a little corrupt. But jail time is just plain vindictive. Unfortunately, I see this a lot in our society. I don't know if it's new, or if I'm just young, but it seems like we are more interested in punishment than in justice. Not very Christian, and not very American if you ask me.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 5:40:59 PM   
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[quote="El Duderino"][quote="John Childress"]That is way overboard. Fine them a few hundred dollars and fire them but jail time? sheesh[/quote] Agreed. Theft? Really? The game was sold out! The team wouldn't get the cash anyway! Not to say it isn't a little corrupt. But jail time is just plain vindictive. Unfortunately, I see this a lot in our society. I don't know if it's new, or if I'm just young, but it seems like we are more interested in punishment than in justice. Not very Christian, and not very American if you ask me.[/quote] Now before you all go flying off the handle...please note that the men have not been convicted of any crime yet. They have not been sentenced. What the article said was that the "FACE" up to 180 days in jail. They likely have already been fired, and it is up to the judge to administer sentence if they are convicted...most judges will not throw the book at a case like this. Let's wait and see what punishment they actually get before we lose our minds.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 5:46:18 PM   
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[quote="John Childress"]I will pass on the re-seeding idea. With this system there are half a dozen NFC cities that can realistically hope for the Super Bowl. That keeps excitement up. In the proposed system it would most likely kill all excitement for the playoffs until the Super Bowl.[/quote] Oh, I like the seeding idea. You still have the 8 division champs. You Still have the 4 wildcards (which in the seeding thing should be the 4 best remaining teams period). They are just seeded in a more logical manner. The idea is to make it more likely that the two best teams in all of football end up in the Superbowl. Look at this year as a great example, the Colts and Patriots are far and above the best teams in the NFL. But there is no chance they would meet in the SB. NONE. The REAL SB should realisitically be the AFCCG this year. Just as in the 90s when the 49ers and Cowboys playoff games were usually the REAL SB. The AFCCG this year will be a game to determine who gets to maul the NFC representative in the SB. The NFL Markets the SB to be the biggest game of the year, every year. Shouldn't the NFL try to get best as they can in a playoff format to get the two best teams into the SB? I think so.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 5:55:41 PM   
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What you gain from having "the two best teams play" you more than lose because 6 teams that had a good chance to make the Super Bowl now don't have a good shot. So you improve one game and but reduce the excitement of 5 others.
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RE:NFL News - 10/25/2007 5:56:04 PM   
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Fuming Dolphins: Patriots lack class Posted: Wednesday October 24, 2007 06:58AM ET Some Dolphins players were unhappy about the Patriots throwing with a big lead Sunday. ''Everyone was disappointed with the lack of respect,'' Chris Liwienski said. ``It's a kick in the teeth and lacked some class. Enough is enough.'' Miami Herald
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