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RE: NFL News - 1/8/2008 8:53:07 PM

Jeff Jesser

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You got it wrong too Lynn. Packer fan posts are always dorky. It's also a no exception rule but, like the refs, sometimes they make the wrong call. I kid...I kid...it's what I do.

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RE: NFL News - 1/8/2008 10:28:48 PM

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You got it wrong too Lynn. Packer fan posts are always dorky. It's also a no exception rule but, like the refs, sometimes they make the wrong call. I kid...I kid...it's what I do.

I don't understand that way.

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RE: NFL News - 1/8/2008 11:22:59 PM

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Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that it drives some people a little nuts. I also laughed at my Packer brethren after Moss dropped his pants, for the hysterical nature of their complaints.

It simply doesn't matter to the players on either team I'm willing to bet.

If one doesn't believe that in just about every game there' some contact between an official and a player that could be ruled a violation, whether it is incidental or accidental, I believe they are fooling themself.

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RE: NFL News - 1/9/2008 9:27:35 AM

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Clearly this was neither incidental or accidental.

If you don't think there should have been a penalty and/or a fine for the official, where do you draw the line?

On Saturday, how about if Hasselbeck goes around and gives a high-five to every official every time the team scores? Would that be acceptable? If not, tell me why.

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RE: NFL News - 1/9/2008 4:54:13 PM

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Did anyone see this re: the Pats? From Bill Simmons. I gotta agree with him; the Pats win for SURE now. Stupid, stupid move by the Jags' site.

http://www.jaguars.com/News/powerrankings.aspx

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RE: NFL News - 1/9/2008 9:23:44 PM 1 votes

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8. O.J. Simpson, Buffalo, 1973: It would be easy to say that Baltimore's Jamal Lewis or Detroit's Barry Sanders belongs on this list -- Lewis gained 2,066 yards in 2003 while Sanders amassed 2,053 yards in 1997 -- but Simpson deserves credit for this ground-breaking campaign. When Simpson gained 2,003 rushing yards in 1973, it was one of the most amazing moments in sports. He was the first running back to ever hit the 2,000-yard mark and none of the four players who've accomplished that feat since has done it in 14 games. In fact, it's still a safe bet that no other runner will be that productive in as short a time span.

Simpson's season is all the more impressive because of how it ended. He actually had 1,584 yards going into the final two weeks of that season but his offensive line cleared enough room for him to reach the record books. He gained 219 yards against New England before churning out another 200 against the New York Jets in the finale. That effort alone should tell us how extraordinary Simpson was.

6. Jerry Rice, San Francisco, 1987: Rice is another player on this list who has enjoyed so many phenomenal campaigns that it's hard to pin down one season among others. But 1987 stands out for one reason: his production in an abbreviated amount of time. Even with a players' strike limiting Rice to 12 games, he still managed to produce an NFL-record 22 touchdown receptions. He also scored 23 touchdowns overall, a total that was one shy of tying the single-season record John Riggins held at the time.

Of course, some people might argue that Rice had years when his numbers were more prolific in other areas -- for example, he caught 122 passes for a league-record 1,848 yards and 15 touchdowns in 1995 -- but there are plenty of receivers who have tons of receptions and yards. The really special ones get into the end zone. And since it took New England's Randy Moss all of 16 games to break Rice's record, we'll say the old man belongs on this list. By the way, Rice also won the league's Most Valuable Player award that year.

10. Reggie White, Philadelphia, 1987: White's name isn't in the record books for most sacks in a single season -- that mark currently belongs to the New York Giants' Michael Strahan -- but he clearly would have that record if this had been a normal year. Thanks to the same players' strike that affected Rice, White appeared in only 12 games that season. That happened to be just enough time for him to record 21 sacks, which is an astonishing number when considering Strahan's total of 22½ came over a full 16 games. But that's how good White was in his prime. Even unfortunate circumstances couldn't hold him back.

Looking back, White's season was destined for greatness from the moment it began. In the season opener, he sacked Washington Redskins quarterback Doug Williams, forced a fumble and returned the ball 70 yards for a touchdown. After that, every other quarterback in the league should have been on notice. White clearly was going to be unstoppable that year.

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RE: NFL News - 1/9/2008 10:09:59 PM

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Reggie was just so damn dominant with Philly it was sick.

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 3:55:37 AM

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Agreed Craig. Rather arrogant to pick and choose in this fashion.

Are you guys really that ticked off about Favre and the ref???

I realize that the rule is supposed to have no exceptions and I (as a former official though not NFL) didn't think it was appropriate, but geez, it had zero effect upon the competitive balance of the game. The opponents did not complain, the refs did not complain, the league office did not complain, that leaves .... well, not too many folks complaining about this inconsequential incident.

It's funny to see how much of an effect something so meaningless can have on some fans. Again, while I thought it inappropriate, it hardly seems important. Just my opinion.

Of course thats your opinion....Your a Packer fan......Had that been Brady doing that with a ref while playing against your Packers you and every other cheesehead would be crying foul to high heaven.

I read your boards over there on Times4 (X4) and I see how idiotic Packer opinions are on there. To come in here and spew your bias opinion of Mr. Hype himself is meaningless!

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 3:57:50 AM

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Agreed Craig. Rather arrogant to pick and choose in this fashion.

Are you guys really that ticked off about Favre and the ref???

I realize that the rule is supposed to have no exceptions and I (as a former official though not NFL) didn't think it was appropriate, but geez, it had zero effect upon the competitive balance of the game. The opponents did not complain, the refs did not complain, the league office did not complain, that leaves .... well, not too many folks complaining about this inconsequential incident.

It's funny to see how much of an effect something so meaningless can have on some fans. Again, while I thought it inappropriate, it hardly seems important. Just my opinion.

True that it had no affect on the outcome but if it's "no exceptions" and yet they made one, what else are taking liberties on? It's not like it was a penalty the ref(s) couldn't/didn't see. This was inexcusable seeing that's it's "no exception". What else are they seeing but not calling? I mean this for everyone too. This isn't about Farve, although the media should have called them out but didn't becuase it was him.

I guess the excessive celebration rule doesn't fit here either....seeing as fruitcake was celebrating with an official. Clown Ops really....the bias this league has towards that guy is borderline comical!

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 11:51:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Tim Cady

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The NFL is slowly alienating their fan base.

Say what you want about MLB, but they do a great job of making their games available however you want.

I agree.

What is everyone who finds a way to enjoy the game more supposed to cut an extra check to the NFL. This is why I try to act like I don't enjoy the games just in case someone from the league office is paying attention.

Brett Farve touching-

I could care less if Brett performed a hummer on the official as long as he doesn't do it in anger and it doesn't detract from the game(he could perform the task during commercial break) and Most importantly that it is Brett being Brett.

Seriously it is a non issue to me. It was spontaneous and all in fun. I remember when Moss got tossed for questioning a poor call(offensive PI) in the endzone. To me touching the shirt, when the ref was purposely ignoring him. Was questionable but enforcement of rule. I had a bigger problem with Aikman grabbing a ref in the middle of the field because of a mistaken spot, that was fixed, and he wasn't tossed. That I had a bigger problem with because it was like the same week.

I saw Brett hit a ref in the face with the football once. It didn't look like an accident, but considering his accuracy that year, the ref and him just had a good chuckle and there was no need for a penalty of ejection.

I don't agree Tim. A rule is a rule and should be enforced as it's written. If they don't apply rules based on intent it gets uneven. Moss = 15 yarder becuase he wasn't happy but BF get nothing because he was having fun doens't cut it to me. The Aikman thing is another great example. He did that out of straight anger and it was 1000 times worse then what Moss did, yet nothing. Why? Because Aikman was one of the "good guys".

I guess the sarcasm font wasn't working.

Let's review I agree that the fan base is being alienated with this can't show game in large venue thing.

Moss was tossed for something lame, but they had the rules to fall back on. He wasn't just given 15 yards in my example he was kicked out for whining about a touchdown unjustly being taken away. He touched the shirt he was gone. Rule is rule although I thought it sucked.

Aikman thing was a joke - he was pissed and should have received 15 and an ejection under the same rule.

Farve should have been ejected for hitting the ref in the face with the ball, cause he was kinda of pissed, but was quick to laugh when he did it, as if it were and accident.

The handslapping thing was wrong, but so spontaneous and unplanned that I don't think anything should come of it, outside of the ref, who went with should be repremended, which I am sure happened. On that play, it looked to me like the Ref and Brett nearly ran into each other. I thought it was funny. If the ref wasn't a willing participant, than farve should have been ejected, although Farve would have been better off just running the ref over, then there would have been nothing made of it.

If the same no harm no foul would happen for all players, then I am ok with it being an accident, like running over a ref.

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 11:51:54 AM

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Agreed Craig. Rather arrogant to pick and choose in this fashion.

Are you guys really that ticked off about Favre and the ref???

I realize that the rule is supposed to have no exceptions and I (as a former official though not NFL) didn't think it was appropriate, but geez, it had zero effect upon the competitive balance of the game. The opponents did not complain, the refs did not complain, the league office did not complain, that leaves .... well, not too many folks complaining about this inconsequential incident.

It's funny to see how much of an effect something so meaningless can have on some fans. Again, while I thought it inappropriate, it hardly seems important. Just my opinion.

Of course thats your opinion....Your a Packer fan......Had that been Brady doing that with a ref while playing against your Packers you and every other cheesehead would be crying foul to high heaven.

I read your boards over there on Times4 (X4) and I see how idiotic Packer opinions are on there. To come in here and spew your bias opinion of Mr. Hype himself is meaningless!

Now, now Ed. No using other forums otherwise we get to use RubeChat.

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 3:51:26 PM

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It's true. RubeChat is an embarrassment for Viking fans. (Although they'd have to still go a long way to compete with the forum Ed is talking about.) Luckily, on THIS forum, no one ever says anything stupid.

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 4:03:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ed_Marotske

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ORIGINAL: Lane Meyer

Agreed Craig. Rather arrogant to pick and choose in this fashion.

Are you guys really that ticked off about Favre and the ref???

I realize that the rule is supposed to have no exceptions and I (as a former official though not NFL) didn't think it was appropriate, but geez, it had zero effect upon the competitive balance of the game. The opponents did not complain, the refs did not complain, the league office did not complain, that leaves .... well, not too many folks complaining about this inconsequential incident.

It's funny to see how much of an effect something so meaningless can have on some fans. Again, while I thought it inappropriate, it hardly seems important. Just my opinion.

Of course thats your opinion....Your a Packer fan......Had that been Brady doing that with a ref while playing against your Packers you and every other cheesehead would be crying foul to high heaven.

I read your boards over there on Times4 (X4) and I see how idiotic Packer opinions are on there. To come in here and spew your bias opinion of Mr. Hype himself is meaningless!

Now, now Ed. No using other forums otherwise we get to use RubeChat.

I have no idea what Rubechat is....never been to that site, don't have a clue about it.

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RE: NFL News - 1/10/2008 7:17:25 PM

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Ed,

Rube Chat is the forum at KFAN.com. Occasionally one of the KFAN "personalities" will post there, so I guess that's the claim to fame - but the level of discussion is almost as bad as TimesFour.

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RE: NFL News - 1/12/2008 1:29:06 AM

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Ed,

Rube Chat is the forum at KFAN.com. Occasionally one of the KFAN "personalities" will post there, so I guess that's the claim to fame - but the level of discussion is almost as bad as TimesFour.

Well, I have never gone there nor willI ever......I think you had mentioned to me once before about RubeChat....probably why I do not go there.......

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RE: NFL News - 1/12/2008 2:30:52 PM

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SPLIT IN THE MCNABB-REID MARRIAGE?

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Bob Ford: McNabb's calling out of Reid, and other truths
By Bob Ford
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We hold these truths to be self-evident: That Donovan McNabb was definitely taking a shot at Andy Reid when he said that the Eagles need more "weapons" and that his opinion didn't "disrespect" anyone on the current roster.

In his final news conference of the season, Reid said players "have to be careful about saying [roster improvement is needed] because those are your teammates that are being replaced. Most players don't get into that who really care about their teammates on the other side."

Whether Donovan thought Reid was putting him on the spot or not, the quarterback's response on his Yardbarker.com blog was hard to misinterpret.

"I don't think the Patriots were being disrespectful to Troy Brown or Reche Caldwell when they brought in Moss, Stallworth and Welker," McNabb wrote.

That's about as clear as you can get, and a direct challenge to the Eagles organization to get him what he believes he needs.

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RE: NFL News - 1/13/2008 2:19:08 AM

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Watching the Jags and Pats today I can't in my right mind imagine any type A receivers would ever want to come here before they at least entertain going to a place like Jacksonville first. The Jags are not far away....could be serious contenders to win it all next year. If I'm Chad Johnson....I'm looking to go there before anywhere else.

In that sense the only thing the Vikes would have would be that CJ would have to be traded to leave Cinci.....

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RE: NFL News - 1/13/2008 6:12:35 AM

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Watching the Jags and Pats today I can't in my right mind imagine any type A receivers would ever want to come here before they at least entertain going to a place like Jacksonville first. The Jags are not far away....could be serious contenders to win it all next year. If I'm Chad Johnson....I'm looking to go there before anywhere else.

In that sense the only thing the Vikes would have would be that CJ would have to be traded to leave Cinci.....

That is how the Eagles got Owens

This team is going to have to either seriously overpay for someone or upgrade the QB to attract better WRs.

The other alternative is we SLOWLY build the team over time.

But the big factor is QB. If we don't get better QB play no one will want to come here and the team will not consistently win. Poor QB play turned Adrian "Walter Payton" Peterson into Michael Bennett II by the end of the year.

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 3:39:55 AM

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Got a glimpse of the TO interview. Talk about FAKE! This guy is cryin and stelling the media "If you do that to My QB, it's not fair" When did TO start to care???? He also stated in the interview that "he's always had his QB's back, no matter where he's played." Who is this guy? Isn't this the same guy who questioned Jeff Garica's sexuallity on national TV? Isn't this the same guy who went on a tangent about how his QB was useless in the Super Bowl? Okay, he questioned McNabb's fitness to be exact, but you get the idea......

I'm not buying it......

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 8:07:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Ed_Marotske

Watching the Jags and Pats today I can't in my right mind imagine any type A receivers would ever want to come here before they at least entertain going to a place like Jacksonville first. The Jags are not far away....could be serious contenders to win it all next year. If I'm Chad Johnson....I'm looking to go there before anywhere else.

In that sense the only thing the Vikes would have would be that CJ would have to be traded to leave Cinci.....

That is how the Eagles got Owens

This team is going to have to either seriously overpay for someone or upgrade the QB to attract better WRs.

The other alternative is we SLOWLY build the team over time.

But the big factor is QB. If we don't get better QB play no one will want to come here and the team will not consistently win. Poor QB play turned Adrian "Walter Payton" Peterson into Michael Bennett II by the end of the year.

There are likely receivers out there that believe they can make QBs better, because they are that good. TO clearly thinks so. Randy Moss knows it. You get the point?

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 9:47:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Ed_Marotske

Watching the Jags and Pats today I can't in my right mind imagine any type A receivers would ever want to come here before they at least entertain going to a place like Jacksonville first. The Jags are not far away....could be serious contenders to win it all next year. If I'm Chad Johnson....I'm looking to go there before anywhere else.

In that sense the only thing the Vikes would have would be that CJ would have to be traded to leave Cinci.....

That is how the Eagles got Owens

This team is going to have to either seriously overpay for someone or upgrade the QB to attract better WRs.

The other alternative is we SLOWLY build the team over time.

But the big factor is QB. If we don't get better QB play no one will want to come here and the team will not consistently win. Poor QB play turned Adrian "Walter Payton" Peterson into Michael Bennett II by the end of the year.

There are likely receivers out there that believe they can make QBs better, because they are that good. TO clearly thinks so. Randy Moss knows it. You get the point?

No WR is out there right now thinking

"I can make Jackson a Pro Bowl QB"

That is laughable

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 11:15:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Ed_Marotske

Watching the Jags and Pats today I can't in my right mind imagine any type A receivers would ever want to come here before they at least entertain going to a place like Jacksonville first. The Jags are not far away....could be serious contenders to win it all next year. If I'm Chad Johnson....I'm looking to go there before anywhere else.

In that sense the only thing the Vikes would have would be that CJ would have to be traded to leave Cinci.....

That is how the Eagles got Owens

This team is going to have to either seriously overpay for someone or upgrade the QB to attract better WRs.

The other alternative is we SLOWLY build the team over time.

But the big factor is QB. If we don't get better QB play no one will want to come here and the team will not consistently win. Poor QB play turned Adrian "Walter Payton" Peterson into Michael Bennett II by the end of the year.

There are likely receivers out there that believe they can make QBs better, because they are that good. TO clearly thinks so. Randy Moss knows it. You get the point?

No WR is out there right now thinking

"I can make Jackson a Pro Bowl QB"

That is laughable

Nice. Exaggerate what I said to ridiculous preportions. I did not say that a good WR is thinking he can make Jackson a pro bowl QB. I said there are receivers that have enough of an ego to think they can make any QB better than they are...nothing more.

Please don't put words in my mouth. You make yourself look like a laughable fool when you do.

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 11:23:48 AM

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I was the one who said TJack will be a pro-bowl QB next year anyway.

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 11:25:33 AM

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It is laughable to think a WR is going to come here because of Jackson - period.

Forget about Pro Bowl or anything else.

Do you think these guys are blind?

Oh, let me go play where the QB can't hit the WR in stride so I can tee'd up by DBs.

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RE: NFL News - 1/14/2008 11:26:07 AM

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Now if you take the angle "let me go play there because their current WRs aren't good and I will get a lot of balls" I will agree with you.

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