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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I don't see teams giving up 2 high picks for Kampman with his big drop off this year.

I just don't understand the wisdom of bringing in a new defense that neutralizes your best player.

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I don't see teams giving up 2 high picks for Kampman with his big drop off this year.

I just don't understand the wisdom of bringing in a new defense that neutralizes your best player.

His production is only down due to the position change.  There are undoubtedly some teams that will believe that a move back to DE will get them the Kampman of the last 3 yrs.
 
The thing is, the defensive scheme wasn't working that was there.  So do you keep a defense that nuetralizes your entire team? 
 
I believe you are getting at that they should have brought in a 4-3 guy and I agree with you on that.  I'm not a big fan of the 3-4 overall.  Greg Williams would have been preferrable, IMO.  However Capers is a good DC, his record at that position speaks for itself. 

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

The hot rumor is that the special teams coach will be fired today.  This should be interesting.

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ORIGINAL: Tim Cady

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

The hot rumor is that the special teams coach will be fired today.  This should be interesting.

I am hearing Ron Wolf and Holmgren are being talked to.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The said it had to do with the impetus of the defense and that as long as Rodgers had one foot on the playing field, it didn't matter that the rest of his entire body was in the endzone. Kind of hokey - but I guess that's the rule.

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The said it had to do with the impetus of the defense and that as long as Rodgers had one foot on the playing field, it didn't matter that the rest of his entire body was in the endzone. Kind of hokey - but I guess that's the rule.

Yeah, that rule seems backwards when the ball crossing the plain is what determines if it's a TD or not and not where the feet are.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The said it had to do with the impetus of the defense and that as long as Rodgers had one foot on the playing field, it didn't matter that the rest of his entire body was in the endzone. Kind of hokey - but I guess that's the rule.

Yeah, that rule seems backwards when the ball crossing the plain is what determines if it's a TD or not and not where the feet are.

I thought the rule was that the entire ball had to leave the endzone or it was a safety.

1. The important factor in a safety is impetus. Two points are scored for the opposing team when the ball is dead on or behind a team’s own goal line if the impetus came from a player on that team.
   
   Examples of Safety:
   
   
   (a) Blocked punt goes out of kicking team’s end zone. Impetus was provided by punting team. The block only changes direction of ball, not impetus.
   (b) Ball carrier retreats from field of play into his own end zone and is downed. Ball carrier provides impetus.
   (c) Offensive team commits a foul and spot of enforcement is behind its own goal line.
   (d) Player on receiving team muffs punt and, trying to get ball, forces or illegally kicks (creating new impetus) it into end zone where it goes out of the end zone or is recovered by a member of the receiving team in the end zone.
   
   Examples of Non-Safety:
   
   
   (a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at spot of interception.
   (b) Player intercepts a pass in his own end zone and is downed in the end zone, even after recovering in the end zone. Impetus came from passing team, not from defense. (Touchback)
   (c) Player passes from behind his own goal line. Opponent bats down ball in end zone. (Incomplete pass)
   

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After a stint in the USFL, he began his NFL career as an assistant with the New Orleans Saints and was named defensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1992, including a trip to the AFC Championship game in 1994. He remained with the Steelers until becoming head coach of the expansion Carolina Panthers in 1995. After 1995's 7–9 season, a record breaking mark for an expansion team, the Panthers went to the NFC Championship game in 1996. Continuing to spend against the salary cap, and eventually taking control of personnel matters in 1997, the Panthers went 7–9, followed by a dismal 4–12 season in 1998, at the end of which he was terminated.


After being let go from the Panthers, he served as an assistant with the Jacksonville Jaguars until becoming the head coach of the expansion Houston Texans on January 21, 2001. After starting out 4–12 (2002) and 5–11 (2003) in his first two seasons in Houston, the Texans posted a 7–9 mark in 2004.


Capers was known for his abilities as a defensive coach, and for his conservative play-calling on offense. Several TV announcers were known to predict Texans plays on occasion. He was also famous because he kept a 17 hour per day work schedule and sleeping just five hours per night, often on a couch in his office.


The Texans announced in 2005 following their record of 2-14 (worst in NFL) that Capers would be fired January 2, 2006.


On January 23, 2006, the Miami Dolphins announced the hiring of Dom Capers as the team's defensive coordinator. There, he served as assistant head coach. With an annual salary of $2.6 million, Capers was the highest paid assistant coach in the NFL, alongside Washington Redskins assistant head coach Gregg Williams. On Thursday, January 3, 2008, Dom Capers was fired along with all offensive and defensive coaches. It was said that the new head coach may hire the assistants back.[1]


On January 29, 2008, Capers interviewed with the Dallas Cowboys for the vacant linebackers coach position. It is rumored that he was offered the defensive coordinator or defensive consultant position.[2]


On February 21, 2008, Capers was hired by the Patriots as their secondary coach/special assistant, replacing Joel Collier.
On January 19, 2009, Capers was named the Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator by head coach Mike McCarthy and general manager Ted Thompson, where he plans to replace the 4-3 defense Green Bay has used since 1992 with the 3-4 he used in Miami.[3]

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ORIGINAL: Tim Cady

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

The hot rumor is that the special teams coach will be fired today.  This should be interesting.

I am hearing Ron Wolf and Holmgren are being talked to.

They are being spoken about in regards with the Browns.

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

Capers has had success where he was the DC:
In three seasons in Pittsburgh, the defense ranked 13th, third and second. In Carolina, they ranked 10th, 15th and 30th. In Jacksonville, they ranked fourth and 12th and in Miami they ranked fourth and 23rd.

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

Capers has had success where he was the DC:
In three seasons in Pittsburgh, the defense ranked 13th, third and second. In Carolina, they ranked 10th, 15th and 30th. In Jacksonville, they ranked fourth and 12th and in Miami they ranked fourth and 23rd.

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ORIGINAL: Tim Cady

We talked about this last summer that they should get rid of Kampman or not go 3-4. What happened to Justin Harrel, you were giving me positive reports in July?

Now it seems that Kampman is not a good fit ever in 3-4 and Harrel is on milk cartons.

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Harsh, I know. AJ Hawk is struggling as well is he not?

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Ted Thompson, outside of Aaron Rodgers, which was a no brainer talent wise pick in the 20's, although could be argued that the team at the time had bigger priorities than qbof. How many potential SB titles were lost by not going for it when the window was all the way open?  Rodgers was good after being project the top pick leading up to the draft, just not what you needed at the time. TT has sucked in the first round. He has been awesome in the 2nd round, I wanted Jennings and thought the Vikings could get him in the 3rd, where he was projected. TT was a genius to take him in the 2nd.

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I don't mean to pile on, but I gotta agree with JC that bringing Capers in to nuetralize your best defensive player is a head scratcher.

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I like you and feel for you as a Packer fan. As a Viking fan though, I gotta admit that I am enjoying this season. It will all come crashing down if we don't win it all though.

Keep your chin up. Were you around when Al Pann used to post, back on the strib talk 1 10 years ago? He was a cool Packer fan as well.