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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

Yeah, Grant's out for the season.  Crap.
 
I'm in the minority of Packer nation that think Jackson can do well as our starting RB.  He was already the 3rd down back and is excellent at blocking and picking up blitzes.
 
Where the concern lies in that he's seen as being too tentative and doesn't have the explosiveness that Grant does.  But unlike Grant, Jackson can break tackles and doesn't get tackled by the chalk lines on the field as Grant seemed to do at times. 
 
There will certainly be more FB runs by Kuhn and one may very well see him lined up at RB as well.
 
This certainly is a blow to the Packers offense, how big of one though remains to be seen.

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

I wish he was a Viking! The man is a beast.

Brett Favre will get to know him real well

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

Is there any evidence that Clay cheated?

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ORIGINAL: Pete C

There is a test for HGH, a blood test, that has been developed at least six years ago. In 2008 a urine test was developed for detecting
HGH, and so far it appears that it could possibly be more effective than the blood test.

To say there is no test for HGH is not true.

It's pretty silly to single out one player for being a cheater when there is no evidence. My guess is the majority of the league is using some sort of PED, but absent evidence, I don't see the need to just accuse players you don't like.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Kluwe pulling that % down a  bit? 

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Kluwe pulling that % down a  bit? 

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ORIGINAL: marty

Why I hate the Packers MORE now than when Favre was with them:

1) They are media darlings, and Gruden's love and bias towards them was more than I could stomach. Rodgers got away with intentional grounding early in the game, it should have been called, the Bears were right to scream for it, and meanwhile Gruden was COMMENDING Rodgers on that play, when it was a poor choice.

2) Aaron Rodgers is cocky, and he is a jerk.

3) Jermichael Finley is VERY cocky, but thankfully he's an injury waiting to happen.

4) Clay Matthews is cocky, AND he is a dirty player.

5) They have NO regard for the PI rules

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ORIGINAL: Cheesehead Craig

Packers 17  Bears 20
 
18 penalties for 152 yds.  3 missed INTs.  Right there is your story line.  Just a sloppy, embarassing game.
 
Offense

RT Mark Tauscher is done.  He got dominated by everyone who lined up against him.

Our running game is in big trouble.  We don't have anyone that can run the damn ball.  I had hopes for B-Jack but that was misplaced.

Rodgers played a hell of a game, but it wasn't enough.
 
Defense

The delayed short passes kill this defense, especially when 2 LBs come on a blitz.

Too many PI penalties, just crappy coverage.

3 missed opportunites for an INT.  Barnett's taken away by a roughing the passer, Collins drops another, and a PI takes another from Collins.  Gotta convert those opportunities.

Pass rush was pretty good.
 
Special Teams

Bad, bad and more bad.  Blocked FG, punt return for a TD, poor overall kick coverage.
 
I hate losing to the damn Bears.  This was a game we should have won but we shot ourselves in the foot far too often.  Blech.

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ORIGINAL: marty

That was the sloppiest performance I have EVER seen by ANY NFL team EVER !

It's as though the Packers have NO regards for the rules ! You would think after so many penalties, the coaches would be telling them to play hard but play closer to the vest, play by the rules. But instead, they just continued ignoring the rules, and seemed to be hoping things wouldn't get called.

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Not only did the Packers get flagged 18 times, they DID get away with a lot of obvious penalties. There was an obvious block in the back (but it was NOT on Peppers, it was on a another Bear player) NOT called, on the play where Rodgers ran in a TD. There were also 2 very obvious holds on Peppers that didn't get called. The Vikes MIGHT want to do the same thing, and hope they can also get away with it, as Peppers is going to be VERY hard to block in the more aggressive Bear scheme.

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It's not that the Bears or Packers CAN'T run the ball, the Bears are hard to run on at home, but BOTH teams seemed pass happy, not willing to stay with the run. The Bears should have been running more in the 1st half, as it seemed obvious the passing game wasn't clicking, and Cutler seemed INT prone.

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I liked the Packers playcalling through most of the game, but thought they abandoned the run too much. I thought the Bears playcalling was horrible in the 1st half, much better in the 2nd, but they still should have stayed more with the run. The Bears DID do a nice job of taking Matthews out of plays in the 2nd half, chipping him, and constantly hitting him, and the Bears T was doing a good job one on one with him.

This game, to me, shows the Vikes actually have a chance of getting back in this.

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Maybe I should have picked the Bears to win the division, as I've always spoke on how I like how Lovie usually gets them to come out and play hard. I thought the Bears 2ndary did a poor job of hitting and tackling in the 1st half, but much better in the 2nd half. Peppers is a beast, and might be unstoppable, unless you can hold him and get away with it.

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The Packers are still my choice to win the division, but the Bears and Vikes still have a good chance. The Packers look weak on the OL, and although I thought they had GREAT offensive playcalling in their 1st two games, they seemed much too pass happy in this one.