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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 10:59:32 AM   
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Those 7 shut out innings dropped Wheeler's AAA era to 4.50. Probably need to see a little more.


into his 3rd year at AAA

Hasn't gotten consistent. I think Slegers is probably passing him.


I guess I only looked at his record - my bad.


Your favorite AA pitcher went on the DL after May 7th start. Left knee tendinitis


Mine? If so, no idea who are you are talking about.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 11:19:14 AM   
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Those 7 shut out innings dropped Wheeler's AAA era to 4.50. Probably need to see a little more.


into his 3rd year at AAA

Hasn't gotten consistent. I think Slegers is probably passing him.


I guess I only looked at his record - my bad.


Your favorite AA pitcher went on the DL after May 7th start. Left knee tendinitis


Mine? If so, no idea who are you are talking about.



Kohl Stewart

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 11:49:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		They desperately need to turn Stewart around. Otherwise they flushed the 4th over all pick of that draft down the toilet.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 11:59:15 AM   
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Those 7 shut out innings dropped Wheeler's AAA era to 4.50. Probably need to see a little more.


into his 3rd year at AAA

Hasn't gotten consistent. I think Slegers is probably passing him.


I guess I only looked at his record - my bad.


Your favorite AA pitcher went on the DL after May 7th start. Left knee tendinitis


Mine? If so, no idea who are you are talking about.



Kohl Stewart


Of course. He's on the fast track - to nowhere.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 3:25:25 PM   
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CR tied the game in the 7th, then gave up one in the 9th to lose 3-2.

Berardino has spent a couple of days there. I'd bet there will be an article soon.

Lopez 3-4/double/R, Montesino 2-5, Diaz 1-3/double(17)/BB

Beeker 6IP 6H/2R/1Er/2K/HR/E(1)
Robinson 1-2 2IP H/R/BB/3K
Lujan .2IP 1-2 IRS H

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 3:27:45 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 3:33:39 PM   
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They desperately need to turn Stewart around. Otherwise they flushed the 4th over all pick of that draft down the toilet.


This. Kid was so exciting out of the draft and in rookie ball. Then they tinkered the hell out of his delivery and ruined him.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 3:34:59 PM   
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They desperately need to turn Stewart around. Otherwise they flushed the 4th over all pick of that draft down the toilet.


This. Kid was so exciting out of the draft and in rookie ball. Then they tinkered the hell out of his delivery and ruined him.

Dustin, that was just a horrible draft pick.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 3:37:14 PM   
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They desperately need to turn Stewart around. Otherwise they flushed the 4th over all pick of that draft down the toilet.


This. Kid was so exciting out of the draft and in rookie ball. Then they tinkered the hell out of his delivery and ruined him.

Dustin, that was just a horrible draft pick.


I don't know. It's tough to say how much is development and how much is scouting. And sometimes, things just don't work out either way. But Gibson and Stewart were both pretty consensus good picks at the time. They both always had the talent, IMO.

I tend to think there's more evidence for bad development by this organization than bad scouting over the last decade or so. Though both could certainly apply.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 3:44:26 PM   
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Stewart at 4 was a disaster. Many better options at 4.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 4:05:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The alleged "draft experts" were saying that Minnesota wound up with the best pitcher in the draft even though he was the third one selected. I suspect Dustin is right in that the Twins tinkered with his delivery until he was worthless. Falvey's forte is supposedly putting together a great process for developing young pitcher. Maybe it's not too late.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 4:39:07 PM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 9:30:05 PM   
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Garver 3-4/double/Solo HR(3)/2RBI, Park 2-3/double/BB, Hague 2-5/double/R/RBI

Slegers 6IP 6H/2R/5K
Busenitz 1.2IP H/R/K
Boshers 0I H/R/1-1 IRS
Rucinski BS/1-2 1-1 IRS 2H/2R/HR
Wimmers IP


Chatt combo 6-hitter, 2-0 win

Only 4 hits
Corcino 1-3/2RBI, Walker 1-3/R, Gordon 1-4/double(12)/R

Romero 3-5 6IP 3H/3BB/5K
Bard 2IP 2h/BB/4K
Curtiss IP H/2K/Save(8)


FTM Rained out

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 9:49:53 PM   
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Seems like he's handling things well.
Solid with bat and glove. Still only 21.
Think we'll see him anytime soon?
I suppose it depends on how things go up here. Maybe a call-up late? maybe a bigger look next Spring?
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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 10:06:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think if there's an injury, they turn to Vielma first (who's also been good) since he's probably the best defensively in the organization at SS. I think they probably try to wait until at least next year with Gordon, given his age. He's one of those guys who they'll want to call up for good when he's ready IMO.

I know you hate to hear it man, but when Gordon is ready, there really will be a big decision time for this team. You pretty much have to trade one of him/Dozier/Polanco. Considering age/salary/team control, I think you almost have to trade Dozier. Gordon to SS, Polanco to 2b. But it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. And man, how long has it been since the Twins have had the problem of TOO MANY starting quality middle infielders? Heck, not even starting quality, but all above average starting quality MI's. I'm not sure I've seen that in my lifetime.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 10:20:46 PM   
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I'll take Doziers bat off the bench on get-away days and for late-inning PHs.
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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 10:27:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		BTW, don't sleep on Vielma either. Always been good defensively, and seems to have had something click with the bat this year. I watched him a few BP sessions both last year and this year in ST and he was a lot different this year. I also noticed how much he and Tony O were talking; I'm guessing that has a lot to do with it.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/24/2017 10:30:30 PM   
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Can never have enough prospects.
Love the insights and love the daily updates Ed.
Thanks guys.
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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 6:51:44 AM   
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Roch rained out again

Chatt won 5-2

Corcino 3-3/BB/R, Gordon 1-4/BB/Solo HR(4)/2R, Wade 1-3/double/BB/RBI

Eades 2-1 5.2Ip 3H/R/3BB
Rosario 1.1IP 0-2 IRS 3K
Jay (DEBUT) IP H/R/2BB/HR
Curtiss IP BB/3K/Save(9) ERA still 0.00 16 games/17.2IP 10H/1 UER/10BB/25K

FTM lost 5-4 on a walkoff in the 9th

Murphy 3-4/2doubles(9)/BB/R/RBI, Molina 2-4/RBI, Strong 2-4/double/BB/R/RBI, Paul 2-5/triple/R, Perez 2-4/double/BB/R
7-20 RISP

Anderson 5IP 4H/2R/BB/K/HR
Clay IP H/2R/1ER/3BB/2K/BS
Muren 2IP H/2BB/4K
McIver 1-2 .2IP 2H/R/K

CR 5 run 5th, 9-2 win

Davis 3-4/Solo HR(11)/R/3RBi, Diaz 2-4/2R HR(7), Lopez 2-4/double/R, Blankenhorn 1-2/BB/2R/RBI

Del Rosario 4-2 6IP 3H/2R/3BB/9k/HR
Davis IP 2BB/K
Vasquez IP 2K
Lombana IP

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 6:53:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can see Curtiss getting moved to AAA soon. Melotakis too. Maybe Burdi as well.

In CR, Andrew Vasquez needs to be promoted, 20.1IP 12H/30 K's

Promotions will start soon enough for pitchers, come draft and all-star breaks.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 10:11:41 AM   
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lost the other, 2-1

Murphy 2-3/R, Paul 2-3

Thorpe 0-1 4IP 3H/R/2BB/6K; Still on a pitch count; 66 pitches
Ramirez 2IP H/R/K

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 10:15:47 AM   
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This spring, he went to his second big league spring training and clearly impressed the coaching staff.
Unfortunately, in the final exhibition game (Rochester vs Twins), he pulled a muscle in his side. He has been out since.
He has pitched in recent days in extended spring training and even hit 98. He should return to the Red Wings soon.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 6:32:18 PM   
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Burdi tore his UCL

Double-A Chattanooga right-hander Nick Burdi, one of the Twins’ top pitching prospects, is headed for Tommy John surgery after suffering a full thickness tear in his ulnar collateral ligament.

Burdi, 24, last pitched on Sunday at Biloxi, where he worked his seventh scoreless outing of the month and lowered his season earned run average to 0.53. An examination in the Twin Cities by Twins physician John Steubs confirmed the diagnosis.

“He’s been a little bit sore and it’s gotten worse,” said Matt Sosnick, Burdi’s agent. “Last time in particular was really painful. That’s why he had a pretty good idea of what this was before he even got the MRI. It’s really disappointing.”

Burdi recorded four outs during a 24-pitch outing on Sunday, but the three hits he allowed were as many as he’d given up in his eight previous outings.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 7:31:25 PM   
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Burdi tore his UCL

Double-A Chattanooga right-hander Nick Burdi, one of the Twins’ top pitching prospects, is headed for Tommy John surgery after suffering a full thickness tear in his ulnar collateral ligament.

Burdi, 24, last pitched on Sunday at Biloxi, where he worked his seventh scoreless outing of the month and lowered his season earned run average to 0.53. An examination in the Twin Cities by Twins physician John Steubs confirmed the diagnosis.

“He’s been a little bit sore and it’s gotten worse,” said Matt Sosnick, Burdi’s agent. “Last time in particular was really painful. That’s why he had a pretty good idea of what this was before he even got the MRI. It’s really disappointing.”

Burdi recorded four outs during a 24-pitch outing on Sunday, but the three hits he allowed were as many as he’d given up in his eight previous outings.


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RE: Players and prospects III - 5/26/2017 10:38:44 PM   
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Tepesch lousy as Roch lost 11-6

Palka 2-5/Solo HR(8)/R/3RBI, Vielma 3-4/double/2R, Garver 2-5/RBI, Goodrum 1-4/BB/Solo HR(4)2/R

Tepesch 1-3 3.1IP 7H/9R/2BB/5K/2HR
Baxendale 2.2IP 2-2 IRS 5H/2R/BB/K
Chapman 2IP BB/K
Tonkin IP H/2K


Chatt won 3-2 on 5 hits
Gordon 1-3/double(13)/B/2R, Wade 1-2/BB/sac fly/RBI, Harrison 1-3/double

Gonsalves 7IP 6H/2R/7K
Van Steensel 4-1 IP
Melotakis IP K/Save(4)


FTM took BP in 17-1 win
16 hits

Miller 4-6/2R/2RBI, Paul 3-5/2doubles(15)/2R/3RBI, Perez 2-4/2BB/3R/3RBI, Molina 3-5/BB/2R/RBI, Murphy 2-7/2R/2RBI

10-21 RISP

DRod 3-2 5IP 3H/R/4K/HR
Booser 0IP 2 HBP
Theofanopoulos 3IP 0-2 IRS 2H/2BB/3K
Anderson IP 2H/BB/3K

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