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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 10:42:28 AM   
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Those last couple meaningless wins likely cost us Aiken, who I'd expect to go at 3 or 4. Sucks.


Well, he's not going 2 or 5, that's for sure.


Obviously. That's why I said 3 or 4, Trekkie.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 10:48:53 AM   
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Those last couple meaningless wins likely cost us Aiken, who I'd expect to go at 3 or 4. Sucks.


Well, he's not going 2 or 5, that's for sure.


Obviously. That's why I said 3 or 4, Trekkie.



I'll be surprised if he gets past the Rangers.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 10:50:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Man, can you imagine, Ed? If he has a stellar career that is going to haunt the Astros forever in their home state.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 10:52:53 AM   
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Man, can you imagine, Ed? If he has a stellar career that is going to haunt the Astros forever in their home state.



I fully expect it.

I also believe that if he gets to MN, they won't draft him.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 11:00:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm looking at the final Top 10 batting averages for the National League. 1)-Morneau; 5)-Revere; 6)-Span. And what do the Twins have to show for that?
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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 11:01:07 AM   
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I'm looking at the final Top 10 batting averages for the National League. 1)-Morneau; 5)-Revere; 6)-Span. And what do the Twins have to show for that?



Meyer
May
Kris Johnson


To this point?

Not quite squat.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 9/29/2014 11:19:29 AM   
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I'm looking at the final Top 10 batting averages for the National League. 1)-Morneau; 5)-Revere; 6)-Span. And what do the Twins have to show for that?



Meyer
May
Kris Johnson


To this point?

Not quite squat.


Hey, you forgot Vance Wore ... oh yeah never mind.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:01:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Current Twins Daily Top 10 Prospects:

1. Buxton
2. Sano
3. Berrios
4. Stewart
5. Meyer
6. Gordon
7. Polanco
8. May
9. Rogers
10. Burdi

Rogers was horrible the first half of the year, but possibly our strongest organizational pitcher in the 2nd half. Who is the real Taylor Rogers?

I'm gonna check the Top 10 prospects from several years ago and see where they are now.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:05:19 AM   
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1. Gibson
2. Wimmers
3. Hicks
4. Sano
5. Hendriks
6. Revere
7. Arcia
8. Bullock
9. Salcedo
10. Kepler (currently #16, so not off the radar)

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:07:53 AM   
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1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:10:46 AM   
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2009

1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee


Is there any wonder why they're sucking?

Gutierrez/delaney were bullpen guys and the Twins effed up trying to make Gutierrez a starter(a novel idea that continues to fail)

And shooter hunt a washout. Mulvey never made it.


All reasons why the current team stinks.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:10:49 AM   
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1. Blackburn
2. Benson
3. Ramos
4. Robertson
5. Swarzak
6. Revere
7. Pridie
8. Duensing
9. Manship
10. Plouffe

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:14:31 AM   
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2008

1. Blackburn
2. Benson
3. Ramos
4. Robertson
5. Swarzak
6. Revere
7. Pridie
8. Duensing
9. Manship
10. Plouffe


What happened to the Ramos guy? What position did he play? Did he wash out?


WOW, a lot of us were wrong on Benson......still think he never could shift from a football mentality to a baseball mentality.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:14:36 AM   
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2009

1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee


Is there any wonder why they're sucking?

Gutierrez/delaney were bullpen guys and the Twins effed up trying to make Gutierrez a starter(a novel idea that continues to fail)

And shooter hunt a washout. Mulvey never made it.


All reasons why the current team stinks.

The farm system was wiped out long before Bill Smith got his hands on things, too. Terry Ryan was the one that originally decimated the farm system. Not sure why everything is always blamed on the Bill Smith years.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:15:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

2009

1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee


Is there any wonder why they're sucking?

Gutierrez/delaney were bullpen guys and the Twins effed up trying to make Gutierrez a starter(a novel idea that continues to fail)

And shooter hunt a washout. Mulvey never made it.


All reasons why the current team stinks.

The farm system was wiped out long before Bill Smith got his hands on things, too. Terry Ryan was the one that originally decimated the farm system. Not sure why everything is always blamed on the Bill Smith years.



Jim Rantz needed to retire, stayed on too long. He was the proponent of drafting all the college slop-ball guys, guys who they thought were ML ready.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:16:40 AM   
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2008

1. Blackburn
2. Benson
3. Ramos
4. Robertson
5. Swarzak
6. Revere
7. Pridie
8. Duensing
9. Manship
10. Plouffe


What happened to the Ramos guy? What position did he play? Did he wash out?


WOW, a lot of us were wrong on Benson......still think he never could shift from a football mentality to a baseball mentality.


Says a lot about your system when PRIDIE is #7

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:16:40 AM   
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2008

1. Blackburn
2. Benson
3. Ramos
4. Robertson
5. Swarzak
6. Revere
7. Pridie
8. Duensing
9. Manship
10. Plouffe


What happened to the Ramos guy? What position did he play? Did he wash out?


WOW, a lot of us were wrong on Benson......still think he never could shift from a football mentality to a baseball mentality.

When Blackburn is the #1 prospect in your organization, you may as well just give up and quit the baseball business.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:17:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

2009

1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee


Is there any wonder why they're sucking?

Gutierrez/delaney were bullpen guys and the Twins effed up trying to make Gutierrez a starter(a novel idea that continues to fail)

And shooter hunt a washout. Mulvey never made it.


All reasons why the current team stinks.

The farm system was wiped out long before Bill Smith got his hands on things, too. Terry Ryan was the one that originally decimated the farm system. Not sure why everything is always blamed on the Bill Smith years.



Jim Rantz needed to retire, stayed on too long. He was the proponent of drafting all the college slop-ball guys, guys who they thought were ML ready.

Kevin Slowey is the only one that worked out.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:44:52 AM   
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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:46:22 AM   
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????????

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:49:38 AM   
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????????




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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:53:21 AM   
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2009

1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee


Is there any wonder why they're sucking?

Gutierrez/delaney were bullpen guys and the Twins effed up trying to make Gutierrez a starter(a novel idea that continues to fail)

And shooter hunt a washout. Mulvey never made it.


All reasons why the current team stinks.

The farm system was wiped out long before Bill Smith got his hands on things, too. Terry Ryan was the one that originally decimated the farm system. Not sure why everything is always blamed on the Bill Smith years.


Yep......Bill Smith was at the helm when Sano was signed if I recall.

He knew he wasn't a baseball guy and let the baseball "experts" advise him

Someone must have told him to get JJ Hardy.....too bad we had given up on Gomez because he didn't fit our image of a leadoff CF.

He tried to strengthen a playoff team midseason. Unfortunately, he took the advice of Gardy who reacted like chicken little when Nathan went down and Rausch had some hiccups.

He couldn't sign Hunter since it should have been done before Torii reached FA status the year before under TR. He tried to replace Torii by trading for a 5 tool player, Delmon Young.....someone told Bill that Delmon was a five tool player......someone. And then when he included a pretty fair shortstop in the deal and a pretty good pitcher, did his manager and pitching coach scream bloody murder at the time???????

He did get Gomez for Santana....but he had no leverage with Santana. Even here, he probably followed TR's advice from the back seat to not go into the season with a lame duck player even though because of his pending FA, Santana would have had to pitch his butt off to get a great FA deal. And if the Twins were out of it, trade Santana midseason.....

Who gave Bill Smith this advice??????

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 10:54:56 AM   
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Who gave Bill Smith this advice??????


Who was the person that recommended signing Nishioka?

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 11:03:14 AM   
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2009

1. Revere
2. Hicks
3. Ramos
4. Hunt
5. Valencia
6. Mijares
7. Mulvey
8. Gutierrez
9. Delaney
10. Parmelee


Is there any wonder why they're sucking?

Gutierrez/delaney were bullpen guys and the Twins effed up trying to make Gutierrez a starter(a novel idea that continues to fail)

And shooter hunt a washout. Mulvey never made it.


All reasons why the current team stinks.

The farm system was wiped out long before Bill Smith got his hands on things, too. Terry Ryan was the one that originally decimated the farm system. Not sure why everything is always blamed on the Bill Smith years.


Yep......Bill Smith was at the helm when Sano was signed if I recall.

He knew he wasn't a baseball guy and let the baseball "experts" advise him

Someone must have told him to get JJ Hardy.....too bad we had given up on Gomez because he didn't fit our image of a leadoff CF.

He tried to strengthen a playoff team midseason. Unfortunately, he took the advice of Gardy who reacted like chicken little when Nathan went down and Rausch had some hiccups.

He couldn't sign Hunter since it should have been done before Torii reached FA status the year before under TR. He tried to replace Torii by trading for a 5 tool player, Delmon Young.....someone told Bill that Delmon was a five tool player......someone. And then when he included a pretty fair shortstop in the deal and a pretty good pitcher, did his manager and pitching coach scream bloody murder at the time???????

He did get Gomez for Santana....but he had no leverage with Santana. Even here, he probably followed TR's advice from the back seat to not go into the season with a lame duck player even though because of his pending FA, Santana would have had to pitch his butt off to get a great FA deal. And if the Twins were out of it, trade Santana midseason.....

Who gave Bill Smith this advice??????



TRex was supposedly an advisor at that point. Who knows, no one will tell. These "advisors" to Billy Smith effed it all up.No way Smith could have done all this damage by himself.

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RE: Players and prospects III - 10/2/2014 11:26:56 AM   
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1. Hicks
2. Ramos
3. Gibson
4. Sano
5. Revere
6. Valencia
7. Gutierrez
8. A. Morales
9. Bromberg
10. Kepler

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