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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 12:40:19 PM

Tom Sykes

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So ... the financial analyst experiment got axed ... didn't have enough football in him to be a football executive.

And we've replaced him with a salary cap guru.

And just to make sure the salary cap guru has enough time for important football decisions ...

we've hired a second salary gap guru.

We're good to go.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 12:43:13 PM

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We're not even in it for football anymore, we're going to win the Wilfs a super bowl version of cap management.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 1:01:06 PM

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Thomas (reverting to his area of expertise): Hey Rob, I have some interesting ideas for the cap.

Brzez (losing it): GD it! I'll do the cap and contract stuff! After all, didn't you find the old records in Seattle where I punked them with the Poison Pill? You go find free agents and draft picks!

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 1:08:26 PM

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The only thing this setup is good for is to absolve everyone of any accountability.

Brzez & Thomas: Uh, hey I'm just a cap guy.

KOC & Flores: Uh, hey I'm just a coach.

Ziggy & Mark: Uh, hey we hired a bunch of people.

Kwesi: Uh, hey they went zero dark thirty on the GM hiring process.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 2:26:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The only thing this setup is good for is to absolve everyone of any accountability.

Brzez & Thomas: Uh, hey I'm just a cap guy.

KOC & Flores: Uh, hey I'm just a coach.

Ziggy & Mark: Uh, hey we hired a bunch of people.

Kwesi: Uh, hey they went zero dark thirty on the GM hiring process.

I think KOC and Flores are probably happy as can be. They will probably be the ones collaborating with the scouts to make the picks. Queasy and his evaluation metrics won't be involved.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 2:29:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The only thing this setup is good for is to absolve everyone of any accountability.

Brzez & Thomas: Uh, hey I'm just a cap guy.

KOC & Flores: Uh, hey I'm just a coach.

Ziggy & Mark: Uh, hey we hired a bunch of people.

Kwesi: Uh, hey they went zero dark thirty on the GM hiring process.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 2:31:47 PM

Phil Riewer

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The weirdest part still is that in the NFL there is 32 GM jobs when Kwesi was out for multiple weeks everyone was amazed.......apparently most of the coaches and other execs were there to a point of sleeping in their office during Camp and Kwesi wasn't to be seen. Highest point of contention.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 2:49:35 PM

Tom Sykes

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The only thing this setup is good for is to absolve everyone of any accountability.

Brzez & Thomas: Uh, hey I'm just a cap guy.

KOC & Flores: Uh, hey I'm just a coach.

Ziggy & Mark: Uh, hey we hired a bunch of people.

Kwesi: Uh, hey they went zero dark thirty on the GM hiring process.

I think KOC and Flores are probably happy as can be. They will probably be the ones collaborating with the scouts to make the picks. Queasy and his evaluation metrics won't be involved.

I’m sure they are.

It remains to be seen if our draft production will be better.

I assume Kwesi was weighing their input the most before over splurging on his picks.

Improvement in our college scouting? Nope. Experience building a roster through the draft? Nope.

Maneuvering or trading picks with other GMs with a minute on the clock? Nope.

A better feel for positions rising and falling in the draft? Nope.

Maybe its not rocket science and we’ll be better off with KOC and Flores and Bzrez.

That speaks to KAMs low standard, not our current placeholder status.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 2:54:40 PM

Bill Johanesen

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Until something changes Kwesi can say he is literally irreplaceable in Minnesota.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 2:56:51 PM

Phil Riewer

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Until something changes Kwesi can say he is literally irreplaceable in Minnesota.

It might be simply that 2 cap guys were needed to undo the damage done by Kwesi?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 5:39:50 PM

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It remains to be seen if our draft production will be better.

I assume Kwesi was weighing their input the most before over splurging on his picks.

Improvement in our college scouting? Nope. Experience building a roster through the draft? Nope.

Maneuvering or trading picks with other GMs with a minute on the clock? Nope.

A better feel for positions rising and falling in the draft? Nope.

Maybe its not rocket science and we’ll be better off with KOC and Flores and Bzrez.

From what I have been reading Queasy only valued input from his analytics models. The scouts were getting openly frustrated from constantly getting blown off by him. One report even said Wilf finally intervened and told KAM that he had to make himself available to the scouts.

I'm with you, we don't know how they will draft, but it sure can't get any worse. Talkvikes posters could sit down with their favorite draft sites and run a better draft than KAM.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/5/2026 9:33:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

It remains to be seen if our draft production will be better.

I assume Kwesi was weighing their input the most before over splurging on his picks.

Improvement in our college scouting? Nope. Experience building a roster through the draft? Nope.

Maneuvering or trading picks with other GMs with a minute on the clock? Nope.

A better feel for positions rising and falling in the draft? Nope.

Maybe its not rocket science and we’ll be better off with KOC and Flores and Bzrez.

From what I have been reading Queasy only valued input from his analytics models. The scouts were getting openly frustrated from constantly getting blown off by him. One report even said Wilf finally intervened and told KAM that he had to make himself available to the scouts.

I'm with you, we don't know how they will draft, but it sure can't get any worse. Talkvikes posters could sit down with their favorite draft sites and run a better draft than KAM.

Thats fair. I haven’t followed that closely, certainly hadn’t heard about the scouting disconnect. I just assumed they were part of the issue. I’ve been making so much fun of KAM-KOCs overboard collaboration, I’ve missed the mark wide, again.

Anyway, we are launched for better or worse.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/6/2026 9:27:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

It remains to be seen if our draft production will be better.

I assume Kwesi was weighing their input the most before over splurging on his picks.

Improvement in our college scouting? Nope. Experience building a roster through the draft? Nope.

Maneuvering or trading picks with other GMs with a minute on the clock? Nope.

A better feel for positions rising and falling in the draft? Nope.

Maybe its not rocket science and we’ll be better off with KOC and Flores and Bzrez.

From what I have been reading Queasy only valued input from his analytics models. The scouts were getting openly frustrated from constantly getting blown off by him. One report even said Wilf finally intervened and told KAM that he had to make himself available to the scouts.

I'm with you, we don't know how they will draft, but it sure can't get any worse. posters could sit down with their favorite draft sites and run a better draft than KAM.

I’ve often wondered the same thing in these past few drafts. I’m the furthest thing from a draft guru. But give me a couple of days to peruse scouting reports, mocks, etc and let me do the picks, and by pure luck I bet I could have had as many hits as Kwesi’s analytics yielded.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/6/2026 6:10:27 PM

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How the **** do you pass on Kyle Hamilton to draft Cine?

Worst fail in recent memory..

And I’m ignoring Underwood, James , and Toby Gerhart, and. Lots of other shit

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/6/2026 6:35:39 PM

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How the **** do you pass on Kyle Hamilton to draft Cine?

Worst fail in recent memory..

And I’m ignoring Underwood, James , and Toby Gerhart, and. Lots of other shit

The Underwood one is the best as his own college coaches told Denny not to draft him.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/6/2026 7:09:25 PM

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Underwood was at least the end of the first round. Ponder at 12 was higher on my list. Treadwell at 23 also.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/7/2026 2:47:07 PM

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Until something changes Kwesi can say he is literally irreplaceable in Minnesota.

It might be simply that 2 cap guys were needed to undo the damage done by Kwesi?

This franchise is turning into a circus act. I figured they'd let Brez hire someone that was a proven player evaluator not another bean counter.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/7/2026 3:21:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen
Until something changes Kwesi can say he is literally irreplaceable in Minnesota.

It might be simply that 2 cap guys were needed to undo the damage done by Kwesi?

This franchise is turning into a circus act. I figured they'd let Brez hire someone that was a proven player evaluator not another bean counter.

Like I've said for years. Completely dysfunctional franchise that nobody takes seriously.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/7/2026 6:07:03 PM

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Underwood was at least the end of the first round. Ponder at 12 was higher on my list. Treadwell at 23 also.

Troy Williamson #7.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/8/2026 9:33:26 PM

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Well, Congrats, Sam (and that Dark Side defense)!

Happy for him!

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/8/2026 9:39:40 PM

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Well, Congrats, Sam (and that Dark Side defense)!

Happy for him!

He had a heck of a year!
Lucky we didn't need him???

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/8/2026 10:05:55 PM

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14-3

Repeat after me. Brad H was right.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/8/2026 10:43:06 PM

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Unfortunately, the Vikes Oline issues were too big of an issue to overcome regardless of who was under center. If the Vikes had managed to retain Darnold, and he had avoided getting injured (a real risk considering how bad our Oline was during first part of the season), they probably would have won a couple more games in 2025, but then they would have lost in the first round of the playoffs, and people would be saying, "See, Darnold can't win a playoff game, you should have let him go!"

It's going to take a few years of solid drafts to fill the glaring holes on this team and rebuild regardless of who they have at QB. Hopefully they can find a sensible GM this time who can help them do that.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/8/2026 11:16:23 PM

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"Unfortunately, the Vikes Oline issues were too big of an issue to overcome regardless of who was under center."

Was on a 2 day road trip last week and listened to a lot of NFL radio. Of course there was a lot of discussion about Sam Darnold. One of the guys on the station who knows the game inside and out was talking about Darnolds last 2 games as a Viking, saying "yes he stunk against Detroit but in the game against the Rams there is not a QB in the NFL that could have won that game behind the performance of the Vikings O-line in that game."

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 2/8/2026 11:29:33 PM

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Congrats on Darnold, really happy for him. He had one bad game vs the Lions last year and had no chance vs the Rams. Could he have brought the Vikes to promised land this year? No, the OLine wasn't healthy enough. They probably get in, but like last year they needed homefield and to be healthy, something the Seahawks had.

Brad you're pathetic cheering more for Darnold as a Seahawk than you ever have for the Vikes. We know you're a troll but stop it. Anyone could have QB'd the Seahawks to a win tonight, just like when Wilson won for them in 2013.

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