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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 9:38:17 AM

Tom Sykes

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Also reported that a trade was in the works sending McCarthy to the Raiders and us signing Darnold long term.

This is what O'Connell wanted to do.

That's outrageous and sounds like scapegoating.

I'm not doubting that you heard that reported somewhere ... maybe there's some truth in it ...

but the timing of that is some Shakespearean betrayal stuff going on right there.

here is a copy and paste of the tweet

Daniel Rotman
@daniel_rotman15
FWIW: there was internal disagreement when drafting J.J. McCarthy and when deciding whether to prioritize him or Sam Darnold this offseason. Kevin O’Connell wanted to go in the other direction. The Vikings were moments away from trading McCarthy to the Raiders this offseason, but to no avail.

Thanks for posting the source. There are other speculative tweeters coming out of the woodwork about this as well.

My thing is the timing … if those speculations are close to true, we should already have a new gm by now, much less putting it off for several months.

Its almost at a point of causing the most internal damage to offseason preparation.

So dysfunctional as an org however it gets spun.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 9:55:19 AM

Tom Sykes

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should have moved on regardless.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 10:22:35 AM

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47779886/vikings-fire-gm-kwesi-adofo-mensah-4-seasons

Kwesi fired. I was still surprised, but as was very clearly documented on this site, his drafting record is horrible and has really set back the organization. Also, his free agency signings record was mixed too. I am curious how they will handle the draft and if they really wait to get a new GM after the draft.

oh wow, I see they want to wait until after the draft to make a new hire...

that seems odd, but I guess this is KOC's draft...

wonder how much input there will be from Flores...

and Brzezinski, as apparently he will "run the front office"

This does seem very strange. Has another team ever fired their GM 3 months before the draft and announced they will not replace him before the draft? This seems really stupid. Who knows, maybe Spielman said no.

Shout out to Bill on the Triangle of Authority. Also looks like a schism to me.

Kwesi was hired Jan 26th 2022.

It's the underlined part that is key.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 10:33:37 AM

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We’ll find out this year whether we have a scouting problem or Kwesi was just bad

I think its the later, but we will soon find out

Never understood where his analytics came in because it seemed like moves he made was anti analytics
Not stockpiling draft picks, building an old roster, etc

Exactly! He used to say it was important to "work the margins" to extract every bit of draft and cap resource. But time and again he pissed away the margins (and more). Recent examples are the picks for Thielen, and some of the recent UFA contracts.

And yes he created one of the oldest rosters in the league, complete with high priced deadwood, and cap problems. He powered the hamster wheel that actually went backwards to 2022. To include needing a QB (unless you were happy with mere regular season stats).

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 10:57:18 AM

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47779886/vikings-fire-gm-kwesi-adofo-mensah-4-seasons

Kwesi fired. I was still surprised, but as was very clearly documented on this site, his drafting record is horrible and has really set back the organization. Also, his free agency signings record was mixed too. I am curious how they will handle the draft and if they really wait to get a new GM after the draft.

oh wow, I see they want to wait until after the draft to make a new hire...

that seems odd, but I guess this is KOC's draft...

wonder how much input there will be from Flores...

and Brzezinski, as apparently he will "run the front office"

This does seem very strange. Has another team ever fired their GM 3 months before the draft and announced they will not replace him before the draft? This seems really stupid. Who knows, maybe Spielman said no.

Shout out to Bill on the Triangle of Authority. Also looks like a schism to me.

Kwesi was hired Jan 26th 2022.

It's the underlined part that is key.

... the lunatics running the asylum. during march and april ...

not good.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 11:00:17 AM

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I dont agree with it, but im gonna make a prediction

Aaron Rodgers is the starting QB next year

I think Russini was right all along. Kwesi blocked it im guessing

Well ... since we don't have a big picture guy in place to see the long view / manage the state of the franchise ...

seems like Kevin might go buddying with either Rogers or Cousins.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 11:35:30 AM

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KAMs contract was to run out after this season i believe?

If this was all well thought out seems weird to me why they didnt just let his contract expire before giving him a new one
It’s not like teams would have been knocking at his door

Did Flores agree to come back if the personnel guy is out? KOC saw it as a chance to bring in his veteran? Kwesi was pushing for JJ
Kwesi also was the guy who was propping up Brosmer who is one of the worst QBs ive witnessed on the pro level
KOC very non committal on JJ
Do they now try to unload JJ for a 3rd rounder?
2027 sets up for a great QB class

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 12:52:05 PM

Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

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ORIGINAL: fmaltes

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47779886/vikings-fire-gm-kwesi-adofo-mensah-4-seasons

Kwesi fired. I was still surprised, but as was very clearly documented on this site, his drafting record is horrible and has really set back the organization. Also, his free agency signings record was mixed too. I am curious how they will handle the draft and if they really wait to get a new GM after the draft.

oh wow, I see they want to wait until after the draft to make a new hire...

that seems odd, but I guess this is KOC's draft...

wonder how much input there will be from Flores...

and Brzezinski, as apparently he will "run the front office"

This does seem very strange. Has another team ever fired their GM 3 months before the draft and announced they will not replace him before the draft? This seems really stupid. Who knows, maybe Spielman said no.

Shout out to Bill on the Triangle of Authority. Also looks like a schism to me.

Kwesi was hired Jan 26th 2022.

It's the underlined part that is key.

I understand why they are waiting. Just pointing out if motivated they could probably hire a new GM in a week.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 12:55:23 PM

Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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I dont agree with it, but im gonna make a prediction

Aaron Rodgers is the starting QB next year

I think Russini was right all along. Kwesi blocked it im guessing

Well ... since we don't have a big picture guy in place to see the long view / manage the state of the franchise ...

seems like Kevin might go buddying with either Rogers or Cousins.

Guessing JJM could be traded as well. Too much dirty laundry at the moment. Not sure if that can be walked back.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 1/31/2026 1:28:53 PM

Jeff Jesser

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JJM being pushed on KOC for this year would make so many things make more sense. I remember there were several times in the season where I thought to myself "damn, he throws smoke at that kid a lot". We (or at least I) thought JJM was KOC's hand picked guy. To have the "man, he's so tough on him" thoughts seemed really weird. Now, not so much.

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