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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

No excuse. What team is completely healthy this time of year. Have you seen the Eagles WR's?

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

No excuse. What team is completely healthy this time of year. Have you seen the Eagles WR's?

No, that's true. Everyone is hobbled or worse at this point in the year. It's frustrating that we flash potential and then just wither.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

No excuse. What team is completely healthy this time of year. Have you seen the Eagles WR's?

No, that's true. Everyone is hobbled or worse at this point in the year. It's frustrating that we flash potential and then just wither.

We flash potential against teams with losing records and wither against teams with winning records. Maybe we just aren't as good as we would like to think.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Starting QBs with the highest percentage of dropbacks as play action, weeks 1-15:

1. Jackson 35.5%
2. Cousins 32.8%
3. Mahomes 32.3%
4. Garoppolo 31.2%

Cousins’ play action percentage vs GB: 13.9%

(Krauser on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

PFF gave Garrett Bradbury a perfect 0.0 pass blocking grade last night.

His second perfect grade this year, but on a much bigger sample size than the Falcons in week one (38 pass blocking snaps, not 14).

Other Vikings pass blocking disasters have graded better: even TJ Clemmings ‘ career worst game was only 27.8.

(Krauser on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This one is a huge point. It strikes me as a core issue with our quarterback. Maybe he is trying to be too careful, or too perfect. I noticed that he threw more than a couple of passes into the ground after holding the ball a long time.

Rodgers’ average time to throw
1st half: 2.63 seconds
2nd half: 2.07
for the season: 2.87

Cousins’ average time to throw
full game: 3.12 seconds (longest in the league this week)
for the season: 3.01 (longest, next is Lamar’s 2.92)

One offense/QB adjusted, the other didn’t.

(Krauser on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This one is a huge point. It strikes me as a core issue with our quarterback. Maybe he is trying to be too careful, or too perfect. I noticed that he threw more than a couple of passes into the ground after holding the ball a long time.

Rodgers’ average time to throw
1st half: 2.63 seconds
2nd half: 2.07
for the season: 2.87

Cousins’ average time to throw
full game: 3.12 seconds (longest in the league this week)
for the season: 3.01 (longest, next is Lamar’s 2.92)

One offense/QB adjusted, the other didn’t.

(Krauser on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Believed going in they would lay a goose egg having found out the day prior they made the playoffs + no Cook and Mattison.

There doesn't seem to be much in the way of media in Minnesota calling them out, both in quantity and in harshness. The regime would be blown out of town in a market like Philly or NY.

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

No excuse. What team is completely healthy this time of year. Have you seen the Eagles WR's?

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

No excuse. What team is completely healthy this time of year. Have you seen the Eagles WR's?

Yup. No more excuses. Excuses for not getting your job done are for sissies. I'm not saying that's what Dave is making for them btw. Just get the job done. I'm not sure if Zimmer will be gone in a first round exit situation but he should be. Take Kubiak and all the other dinosaurs with him as well. Time to get some WRs that can at least play at an NFL level to round out the corps and start passing the ball around. This run first mentality has to go.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Believed going in they would lay a goose egg having found out the day prior they made the playoffs + no Cook and Mattison.

There doesn't seem to be much in the way of media in Minnesota calling them out, both in quantity and in harshness. The regime would be blown out of town in a market like Philly or NY.

Zimmer press conferences are a joke.

Someone calls him out and then he gets snarky and you know the press conference is about to end.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

This is a frustrating team, for sure. That point about parity is really true, though. I don't see a dominant team in the NFC that hasn't been exposed at least a little. The Vikings are a streaky team. They remind me of the Rams who could destroy you or just wilt.

In fairness, Cook and Mattison being out hurt.

No excuse. What team is completely healthy this time of year. Have you seen the Eagles WR's?

Yup. No more excuses. Excuses for not getting your job done are for sissies. I'm not saying that's what Dave is making for them btw. Just get the job done. I'm not sure if Zimmer will be gone in a first round exit situation but he should be. Take Kubiak and all the other dinosaurs with him as well. Time to get some WRs that can at least play at an NFL level to round out the corps and start passing the ball around. This run first mentality has to go.

How about Peterson(Boise St. and Wash. guy) as HC with Rivera as DC?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: SteveR

Last night was standard. We know what we are getting from a Zimmer/Spielman team at this stage. This is who we are until they go, and we can see how the next guys fare. Might be worse, but it might be better. Staying the course is not going to get anything done.

Fan sentiment seems they need to go and try something different but will the Wilfs feel the same?
My guess is with Zimmer and Cousins with one year left we’ll get one more year before we see the start of a rebuild

I think Spielman has gotten lucky more than anything
His best picks were late rounders or FAs
It’s not like he was on Diggs, Hunter, Thielen when others weren’t
Yet we’ve seen him miss constantly on the higher picks

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: SteveR

Last night was standard. We know what we are getting from a Zimmer/Spielman team at this stage. This is who we are until they go, and we can see how the next guys fare. Might be worse, but it might be better. Staying the course is not going to get anything done.

Fan sentiment seems they need to go and try something different but will the Wilfs feel the same?
My guess is with Zimmer and Cousins with one year left we’ll get one more year before we see the start of a rebuild

I think Spielman has gotten lucky more than anything
His best picks were late rounders or FAs
It’s not like he was on Diggs, Hunter, Thielen when others weren’t
Yet we’ve seen him miss constantly on the higher picks

This team needs to start the rebuild next year as they will not make the playoffs anyway. We need to draft a legit QBOTF who can give Kirk some competition while he plays out the last year on his contract. Our overpaid vets need to go. At a minimum Griffen, Rhodes, Waynes, Rudolph and Reiff. Would anyone trade for Barr? We need to devote whatever salary we have to the oline. Ideally, Zim and Spielman are gone, Fangio gets canned from the Broncos, and then our new regime hires him as our D coordinator.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: SteveR

Last night was standard. We know what we are getting from a Zimmer/Spielman team at this stage. This is who we are until they go, and we can see how the next guys fare. Might be worse, but it might be better. Staying the course is not going to get anything done.

Fan sentiment seems they need to go and try something different but will the Wilfs feel the same?
My guess is with Zimmer and Cousins with one year left we’ll get one more year before we see the start of a rebuild

I think Spielman has gotten lucky more than anything
His best picks were late rounders or FAs
It’s not like he was on Diggs, Hunter, Thielen when others weren’t
Yet we’ve seen him miss constantly on the higher picks

This team needs to start the rebuild next year as they will not make the playoffs anyway. We need to draft a legit QBOTF who can give Kirk some competition while he plays out the last year on his contract. Our overpaid vets need to go. At a minimum Griffen, Rhodes, Waynes, Rudolph and Reiff. Would anyone trade for Barr? We need to devote whatever salary we have to the oline. Ideally, Zim and Spielman are gone, Fangio gets canned from the Broncos, and then our new regime hires him as our D coordinator.

I’d love Fangio to run the D. I agree with almost everything but only exception is I’d keep Wayne’s
Only reason i say that is Hughes looks awful
Waynes ain’t Lattimore but he’s been solid
I wouldn’t mind a secondary of Waynes, Hill, Kearse, smith and Harris
And yes we need to draft a QB. A mobile one who can throw
Cousins is a dinosaur back there with no ability to scramble