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thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/4/2019 8:03:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Viking Rich quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine Vikings punish Stefon Diggs, he practices, but playing status is undetermined Stefon Diggs has been punished for his absence on Wednesday and is good to go, but Vikings coach Mike Zimmer wouldn’t commit publicly to playing him against the Giants in New Jersey on Sunday. “I don’t know,” Zimmer said Friday when asked if Diggs will play. “We’ll see.” Asked if Diggs looked like his old self in practice Thursday and Friday, Zimmer said, “I have to watch the tape.” Asked what he’ll base his decision on when it comes to playing Diggs on Sunday, Zimmer said, “Got to watch the tape.” Then, when asked to confirm that it will be based on how Diggs practiced and not based on punishment, Zimmer said, “He’s already been punished.” http://www.startribune.com/vikings-punish-stefon-diggs-he-practices-but-playing-status-is-undetermined/562192832/ Zimmer is the cancer on this team. He's dug in, and is convinced his 70s style ground and pound, with Ham leading the way, is the best way to win. If he's already punished Diggs, and the man is practicing, is more punishment required? No wonder this roster is under-performing. Too much drama led by a spiteful head coach who keeps shit going. Maybe I'm reading impaired, but didn't Zimmer say Diggs has already been punished? I could be wrong. He says hes already punished but then says he's not sure if he's going to play this weekend. So yeah I agree it's weird the way Zimmer talks out of both sides of his mouth. It always amazes me how easy it is to whip the masses into a frenzy.

Viking Rich -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/4/2019 10:40:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Viking Rich quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine Vikings punish Stefon Diggs, he practices, but playing status is undetermined Stefon Diggs has been punished for his absence on Wednesday and is good to go, but Vikings coach Mike Zimmer wouldn’t commit publicly to playing him against the Giants in New Jersey on Sunday. “I don’t know,” Zimmer said Friday when asked if Diggs will play. “We’ll see.” Asked if Diggs looked like his old self in practice Thursday and Friday, Zimmer said, “I have to watch the tape.” Asked what he’ll base his decision on when it comes to playing Diggs on Sunday, Zimmer said, “Got to watch the tape.” Then, when asked to confirm that it will be based on how Diggs practiced and not based on punishment, Zimmer said, “He’s already been punished.” http://www.startribune.com/vikings-punish-stefon-diggs-he-practices-but-playing-status-is-undetermined/562192832/ Zimmer is the cancer on this team. He's dug in, and is convinced his 70s style ground and pound, with Ham leading the way, is the best way to win. If he's already punished Diggs, and the man is practicing, is more punishment required? No wonder this roster is under-performing. Too much drama led by a spiteful head coach who keeps shit going. Maybe I'm reading impaired, but didn't Zimmer say Diggs has already been punished? I could be wrong. He says hes already punished but then says he's not sure if he's going to play this weekend. So yeah I agree it's weird the way Zimmer talks out of both sides of his mouth. It always amazes me how easy it is to whip the masses into a frenzy. "In Zim We Trust!" Amazing how that battle cry still resonates with some after watching this guy waste a roster full of talent year after year and NEVER having his team ready for the big games as he continuously gets out-coached. I guess the masses don't get it.

Ragnarök -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/4/2019 11:01:45 PM)
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/ The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky...

Viking Rich -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/4/2019 11:31:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ragnarök https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/ The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky... I was just reading this story as you posted it. I was thinking about Sloter too. Mannion obviously knows how to play the game...

JT2 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/4/2019 11:56:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo The Bears were favored to win all 4 of their games, 2 home, 2 on the road against bottom feeders. They only won 3 of those games. The Packers were favored to win 3 of their 4 games, and have won 3. The Vikes were favored to win 2 games, dogs in 2. Won the 2 they were supposed to win, lost the 2 they were supposed to win. It's hardly time for the mass bridge jumping we are seeing. Most people understood that with a new blocking scheme and 3 positions with new starters, the OL would be something of a work in progress until around midseason. It's been good enough against weaker opponents early on. The Vikings should be favored to win the next 4 games. Do that, and we are talking 6-2 after 8 games. And potentially the OL could be rounding into form by then, by the time we roll into KC with a 10 day break people could well be singing a different tune. Who knows, maybe Samia and/or Udoh are contributing by then. If we continue to just meet Vegas expectations, we will be mediocre. You get that, right? Personally, I don't think we are as good as we looked vs. Atlanta, and I don't think we are as bad as we looked at Chicago. Just based on personnel, we are good enough to destroy bad teams. Our football philosophy will always hold us back against good teams. Rudolph should not even be on a NFL roster. Who is our #3 WR? Are you kidding me? You need more than two. Josh Reynolds replaces the injured Kupp last season. How did he look? And since I'm speaking of the Rams, how much better are Everett and Higbee than Rudolph? And, prior to last night, the Rams don't throw much to the TE's. If you don't have a multitude of players that can tax a secondary, you're behind the curve. As much as you wish it to be, we are not going to run and stop the run to the Super Bowl. It's also really embarrassing that we called a timeout when the Bears were trying to take a penalty and punt. I expect a NFL HC should be more aware of the situation and rules. Zimmer is not what you think he is. He reminds me so much of Leslie Frazier, except Zimmer is a "tough guy" and Frazier was a "nice guy". We will destroy the Giants. They are NOT good. It took them five years too long to find out Manning sucks. Who wants to bench a Manning? We can get shit right Sunday, if Zimmer lets us. Beat 'em. Run on them, pass on them, blow them out. Don't sit on your stupid one score lead. Let the players shine. They need it. Let 'em have some fun and just beat the shit outta' somebody.

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 12:43:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ragnarök https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/ The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky... I missed the part where homeboy made any NFL roster. It may be possible that they didn't sign him because he's not good enough and/or he's delusional. It is not fact that they cut Sloter to avoid a controversy. While possible, it seems more likely they became disenchanted with his prospects to be a viable starter/back-up; he currently is on the practice squad of one of the NFL's worst franchises, so......But I have to admit I was intrigued by what I saw from a distance of Sloter; it wouldn't be the first time the Vikings were wrong about a prospect.

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 7:45:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: Ragnarök https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/ The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky... I missed the part where homeboy made any NFL roster. It may be possible that they didn't sign him because he's not good enough and/or he's delusional. It is not fact that they cut Sloter to avoid a controversy. While possible, it seems more likely they became disenchanted with his prospects to be a viable starter/back-up; he currently is on the practice squad of one of the NFL's worst franchises, so......But I have to admit I was intrigued by what I saw from a distance of Sloter; it wouldn't be the first time the Vikings were wrong about a prospect. It seems like a strange story to fabricate. Others here speculated that about Sloter's release well before this story surfaced. I would guess Arizona wants to give their rookie QB every chance to succeed, i.e., they don't want a QB controversy either, given that they've used first round picks on QBs the last two years. What would it say about their ability to evaluate talent if a street free agent beat out the guy they selected first overall?

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 9:00:58 AM)
Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 9:38:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:00:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. Teams were fighting over him when he got released from Denv couple seasons back. Zim didn't do him any favors critisising him at a presser.

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:06:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. Too smart? Sloter got 38 on the Wonderlic test, very high. We'll probably never know what the issue is, unless you believe it's truly because he doesn't practice well, watch the time clock, or know how to line players up, like Zimmer indicated.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:07:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. Teams were fighting over him when he got released from Denv couple seasons back. Zim didn't do him any favors critisising him at a presser. Teams can see the talent. I doubt a good GM would just go with what Zimmer says and make his decision on that.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:09:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. It's not very often that an unproven QB gets picked up as a teams backup QB and put on a teams 53 man roster, as the new team already is likely set with their starter and backup, rarely to teams carry 3 QBs on their 53 man roster, and the new QB has no familiarity and time with the new teams roster/system, and can not serve as the teams backup at that point in time.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:10:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jbusse quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. Too smart? Sloter got 38 on the Wonderlic test, very high. We'll probably never know what the issue is, unless you believe it's truly because he doesn't practice well, watch the time clock, or know how to line players up, like Zimmer indicated. There are some awful 2nd stringers in the league. They must have the art of brown nosing down.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:20:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. It's not very often that an unproven QB gets picked up as a teams backup QB and put on a teams 53 man roster, as the new team already is likely set with their starter and backup, rarely to teams carry 3 QBs on their 53 man roster, and the new QB has no familiarity and time with the new teams roster/system, and can not serve as the teams backup at that point in time. Exactly this.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:23:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JT2 quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo The Bears were favored to win all 4 of their games, 2 home, 2 on the road against bottom feeders. They only won 3 of those games. The Packers were favored to win 3 of their 4 games, and have won 3. The Vikes were favored to win 2 games, dogs in 2. Won the 2 they were supposed to win, lost the 2 they were supposed to win. It's hardly time for the mass bridge jumping we are seeing. Most people understood that with a new blocking scheme and 3 positions with new starters, the OL would be something of a work in progress until around midseason. It's been good enough against weaker opponents early on. The Vikings should be favored to win the next 4 games. Do that, and we are talking 6-2 after 8 games. And potentially the OL could be rounding into form by then, by the time we roll into KC with a 10 day break people could well be singing a different tune. Who knows, maybe Samia and/or Udoh are contributing by then. If we continue to just meet Vegas expectations, we will be mediocre. You get that, right? Personally, I don't think we are as good as we looked vs. Atlanta, and I don't think we are as bad as we looked at Chicago. Just based on personnel, we are good enough to destroy bad teams. Our football philosophy will always hold us back against good teams. Rudolph should not even be on a NFL roster. Who is our #3 WR? Are you kidding me? You need more than two. Josh Reynolds replaces the injured Kupp last season. How did he look? And since I'm speaking of the Rams, how much better are Everett and Higbee than Rudolph? And, prior to last night, the Rams don't throw much to the TE's. If you don't have a multitude of players that can tax a secondary, you're behind the curve. As much as you wish it to be, we are not going to run and stop the run to the Super Bowl. It's also really embarrassing that we called a timeout when the Bears were trying to take a penalty and punt. I expect a NFL HC should be more aware of the situation and rules. Zimmer is not what you think he is. He reminds me so much of Leslie Frazier, except Zimmer is a "tough guy" and Frazier was a "nice guy". We will destroy the Giants. They are NOT good. It took them five years too long to find out Manning sucks. Who wants to bench a Manning? We can get shit right Sunday, if Zimmer lets us. Beat 'em. Run on them, pass on them, blow them out. Don't sit on your stupid one score lead. Let the players shine. They need it. Let 'em have some fun and just beat the shit outta' somebody. IF we continue to meet Vegas expectations, we'll be 6-2 after 8 games. So, there is that. The other 90% of your post, I'd be curious as to who you are responding to/arguing with? Just venting?

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:25:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: jbusse quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro Cutting Sloter was short sighted imo. RS and Zim are only thinking short term. If both are fired at seasons end and the new GM begins his qb search having Sloter on the roster as a candidate would have value. I know Sloter is only on a PS and could still be signed. But when they cut him there was no guarantee he could still be brought back. Cousins psyche must be pretty fragile Sloter earned a shot at playing with the 2nd stringers. Why he was never given a chance is beyond me? But, why didn't he get picked up to be on a 53? You would think there would be better opportunities than PS for a team(AZ) that already has their QB for the next 12-15 years. Something about him that doesn't appeal to teams. Too smart? Sloter got 38 on the Wonderlic test, very high. We'll probably never know what the issue is, unless you believe it's truly because he doesn't practice well, watch the time clock, or know how to line players up, like Zimmer indicated. There are some awful 2nd stringers in the league. They must have the art of brown nosing down. You can't expect a new QB to be able to pick up a teams clipboard toting technique overnight.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:28:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Viking Rich quote: ORIGINAL: Ragnarök https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/10/04/cfl-quarterback-claims-he-rejected-vikings-offer-because-they-dont-want-a-controversy/ The above guy may have been a nobody, but it is exactly the same reason they cut Sloter... Neither may ever be NFL level QB talent but it screams just how much they want to insulate Kirky... I was just reading this story as you posted it. I was thinking about Sloter too. Mannion obviously knows how to play the game... The "game" yes, the "game of football" maybe not so much.

Dave Odle -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 10:41:59 AM)
So here's my main question. How do you replace Zimmer and not go backwards on defense? If we we fire him, we are truly stepping into the unknown. I agree that he is a very one-dimensional coach; basically a promoted defensive coordinator that never grew into a good head coach. Still, the devil you know. Then again, we could probably poach a proven defensive mind at the end of a contract (Wade Phillips comes to mind) and then shoot for a younger, more open mind as head coach.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 11:44:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dave Odle So here's my main question. How do you replace Zimmer and not go backwards on defense? If we we fire him, we are truly stepping into the unknown. I agree that he is a very one-dimensional coach; basically a promoted defensive coordinator that never grew into a good head coach. Still, the devil you know. Then again, we could probably poach a proven defensive mind at the end of a contract (Wade Phillips comes to mind) and then shoot for a younger, more open mind as head coach. I'd lean toward hiring a good qb friendly offensive coach. If said coach were to keep Edwards on as DC I don't think we would take a step back on that side of the ball. All the pieces would still be in place to continue running the Zim style defense.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 11:46:55 AM)
If new coach brings in his own DC he may want to bring in new pieces to implement what he emphasizes. ie.. Wade Phillips runs a 3-4

Ragnarök -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 12:19:12 PM)
I would really like to know who HAD to keep Kyle Rudolph on the team this year? Is Rudy a Zimmer guy? Was it Zimmer or Spiels who didnt want to let him walk and pulled the trigger to keep him here? *Kyle Rudolph, who for around $9M this year has five receptions for 32 yards?* Seems Rudy and Cousins do not have a great off field relationship so one has to wonder why he was such a target to return when we had just drafted his successor as well. Plus the regime and coaching had to have been brewing plans for their run heavy 70s style offense that has diminished all the receivers 2019 returns. As well there was all that smoke after camp that Kirk was so on page and now ready to "trust" Rudolph this year compared to last... Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins says he's gaining more confidence in his offense and Rudolph as he has progressed since last season in building a rapport with him. “The more you do it, the more you see it, and the more you realize that’s a strength of his. I guess I look back and regret a little bit not doing that more with him last year, and then, hopefully looking forward to giving him more opportunities to make you right, when everything within you is telling you, ‘He’s really not open, but let’s give him a shot.’ ” In hindsight just another head scratcher why we didnt move on and use the cap space in more appropriate team needs..

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 12:23:30 PM)
I'm not saying that we didn't err in cutting Sloter or that the CFL quarterback isn't the next Patrick Mahomes. What I'm saying is that we don't know. Zimmer could be stupid in general but right about Sloter or vice versa. People bid on him to be on their PS when he signed with us, and he could have been signed to an active roster this time as a 2 or 3 but was not. He himself must feel that he's not ready to some degree or he wouldn't have signed with a team that has their QB of the future clearly selected. Or it may be that he didn't get real interest for any better situation. Players know, too, and they don't want someone under center who can't recognize coverages or blitz protection or hot reads. His physical ability is obvious, but that doesn't mean he's ready to take the field in a regular season game, even as a third-stringer. We've obviously made some mistakes in building this roster, but that doesn't necessarily mean everything we've done is a mistake.

Dave Odle -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 12:27:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro If new coach brings in his own DC he may want to bring in new pieces to implement what he emphasizes. ie.. Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 Definitely. Phillips runs a 3-4 and is probably under contract beyond this season. I was just illustrating guys out there who are veteran defensive coaches who are usually obtainable. Frazier is a good example of someone very average. I think he got his shot here because we were still experiencing fear of missing out over Tomlin. Zimmer has just been a major disappointment to me. It's hard to be a Parcells clone in today's NFL. These young guys can't (and won't take the verbal abuse). So it doesn't matter if it was once effective (not to mention allowed) to grab a guy by his facemask in practice and tear into him. It simply isn't now. Guys used to respond to it by getting fired up. We don't live in that world today. The game has passed him by.

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/5/2019 12:29:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ragnarök I would really like to know who HAD to keep Kyle Rudolph on the team this year? Is Rudy a Zimmer guy? Was it Zimmer or Spiels who didnt want to let him walk and pulled the trigger to keep him here? *Kyle Rudolph, who for around $9M this year has five receptions for 32 yards?* Seems Rudy and Cousins do not have a great off field relationship so one has to wonder why he was such a target to return when we had just drafted his successor as well. Plus the regime and coaching had to have been brewing plans for their run heavy 70s style offense that has diminished all the receivers 2019 returns. As well there was all that smoke after camp that Kirk was so on page and now ready to "trust" Rudolph this year compared to last... Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins says he's gaining more confidence in his offense and Rudolph as he has progressed since last season in building a rapport with him. “The more you do it, the more you see it, and the more you realize that’s a strength of his. I guess I look back and regret a little bit not doing that more with him last year, and then, hopefully looking forward to giving him more opportunities to make you right, when everything within you is telling you, ‘He’s really not open, but let’s give him a shot.’ ” In hindsight just another head scratcher why we didnt move on and use the cap space in more appropriate team needs.. What makes you say Rudy and Cousins don't have a great relationship off the field? Unless one or the other has said it, this is just more bulllshit speculation but a fan with an agenda. We now seem to accept it as fact that Cousins/Zimmer couldn't tolerate the presence of Sloter on the roster, so he was cut even though he's clearly superior.

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