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Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:04:58 AM)

Source says that #Vikings free-agent kicker Dan Bailey has narrowed his list down to three teams in which he will sign with. The Vikings are one of them on his list. I'm not sure which the other two are.

(Chris Tomasson on Twitter)




Pager -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:07:17 AM)

Detroit was smart moving on from Slay. Eagles stoopid to give such a big contract.

CBs really are a position that can drop off quickly with age - Slay is 29 already.




kgdabom -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:19:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.

This loss cuts the deepest with me, because I was expecting us to retain Mac all along and think he was worth at least 6 Million a year. Killer.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:24:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.

This loss cuts the deepest with me, because I was expecting us to retain Mac all along and think he was worth at least 6 Million a year. Killer.



i agree - $4m/yr is great value for a guy that excelled in 2018....




David F. -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:28:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.



4 MILLION!!

OUCH! I thought it would take 6-7 and still wanted him.

That hurts. CB just shot up the list of needs.


He was not happy about playing hurt during Chicago game. I don't think we could have signed him.



That would be a shame if that's what ran him off. He was our best CB last year and it looks like he could have been had for a steal.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:28:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Kearse was signed by the Lions.


Shame.

Talented, versatile guy that seemed to rub Zim the wrong way.



it seemed like everything went south after the dui....




David Levine -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:29:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.



4 MILLION!!

OUCH! I thought it would take 6-7 and still wanted him.

That hurts. CB just shot up the list of needs.


He was not happy about playing hurt during Chicago game. I don't think we could have signed him.


He must have wanted out. I can't see us not matching/besting that offer.




David F. -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:33:50 AM)

So far free agency is a bipolar mixed bag. Some astoundingly great moves, a number of very good moves, and a few complete head scratchers. Re-signing Colquitt gets my vote for most under-rated move so far.




Phil Riewer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:50:08 AM)

SD




Phil Riewer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:51:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.



4 MILLION!!

OUCH! I thought it would take 6-7 and still wanted him.

That hurts. CB just shot up the list of needs.


He was not happy about playing hurt during Chicago game. I don't think we could have signed him.


He must have wanted out. I can't see us not matching/besting that offer.


Yeah him having to play Game 17 and already hurt sealed it I bet.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 11:52:54 AM)

SkorNorth is sure negative. They are calling it "vent line". I can only listen to them a few minutes at a time and you all know I'm a fan of the Purple.




Guest -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 12:23:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.



4 MILLION!!

OUCH! I thought it would take 6-7 and still wanted him.

That hurts. CB just shot up the list of needs.


He was not happy about playing hurt during Chicago game. I don't think we could have signed him.


He must have wanted out. I can't see us not matching/besting that offer.


Yeah him having to play Game 17 and already hurt sealed it I bet.


Yeah I guess if that’s true ole Mac Alexander didn’t have much in common with guys like Ronnie Lott who said cut my finger all the way off so I can get back in there... [;)]




ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 12:59:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.



4 MILLION!!

OUCH! I thought it would take 6-7 and still wanted him.

That hurts. CB just shot up the list of needs.


He was not happy about playing hurt during Chicago game. I don't think we could have signed him.


He must have wanted out. I can't see us not matching/besting that offer.


Yeah him having to play Game 17 and already hurt sealed it I bet.




Andrew Krammer@Andrew_Krammer
I'm told the #Vikings made an offer to Alexander but that it was not what he was looking for. Gets another chance to capitalize on a contract season and hit free agency again next year at 27 years old.




kgdabom -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 1:24:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Mack Alexander just got signed for 4 mill. We will definitely sign a different free agent CB. One year deal with Bengals.

So the Bengals sniped two of Zimmer's corners.



4 MILLION!!

OUCH! I thought it would take 6-7 and still wanted him.

That hurts. CB just shot up the list of needs.


He was not happy about playing hurt during Chicago game. I don't think we could have signed him.


He must have wanted out. I can't see us not matching/besting that offer.


Yeah him having to play Game 17 and already hurt sealed it I bet.




Andrew Krammer@Andrew_Krammer
I'm told the #Vikings made an offer to Alexander but that it was not what he was looking for. Gets another chance to capitalize on a contract season and hit free agency again next year at 27 years old.

If the offer was less than the Bengals they might as well have not made an offer. I would like to know what it was.




Pager -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 1:28:23 PM)

I offered this in the General Talk thread but I'm betting Mac's decision involved position. Zimmer has long viewed him in the slot and Mac wanted to play the outside. He probably looked at Waynes contract as what he perceives as his fair market value if he can prove himself as an outside CB.

I'm guessing that played the biggest role in his decision.




kgdabom -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 1:34:32 PM)

Any interest in Brandin Cooks and how big is his contract?

NFL.com's Michael Silver reports Rams WR Brandin Cooks: "Could be traded again this offseason, and it likely wouldn't take a 1."
Cooks set a career-low mark in yards per target (8.1) in addition to most counting stats in 2019. Of course, he also had just 72 targets, as Jared Goff regularly failed to have enough time to take shots down the field. Either way, Cooks was relegated to the offense's No. 3 pass-game option behind Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp, making him somewhat expendable if the right offer comes around. Cooks' departure would open up a full-time role for Josh Reynolds. The six-year veteran will turn 27 in September.

SOURCE: Michael Silver on Twitter
Mar 16, 2020, 11:04 AM ET




Phil Riewer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 1:43:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Any interest in Brandin Cooks and how big is his contract?

NFL.com's Michael Silver reports Rams WR Brandin Cooks: "Could be traded again this offseason, and it likely wouldn't take a 1."
Cooks set a career-low mark in yards per target (8.1) in addition to most counting stats in 2019. Of course, he also had just 72 targets, as Jared Goff regularly failed to have enough time to take shots down the field. Either way, Cooks was relegated to the offense's No. 3 pass-game option behind Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp, making him somewhat expendable if the right offer comes around. Cooks' departure would open up a full-time role for Josh Reynolds. The six-year veteran will turn 27 in September.

SOURCE: Michael Silver on Twitter
Mar 16, 2020, 11:04 AM ET


No thanks....too small, too much $$$, and concussion issues.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 1:47:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I offered this in the General Talk thread but I'm betting Mac's decision involved position. Zimmer has long viewed him in the slot and Mac wanted to play the outside. He probably looked at Waynes contract as what he perceives as his fair market value if he can prove himself as an outside CB.

I'm guessing that played the biggest role in his decision.


Makes a lot of sense to me. I'm glad they went outside our division. Then I can even wish them well. The Bengals are not a team that I hate.




Tom Sykes -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 1:53:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

I offered this in the General Talk thread but I'm betting Mac's decision involved position. Zimmer has long viewed him in the slot and Mac wanted to play the outside. He probably looked at Waynes contract as what he perceives as his fair market value if he can prove himself as an outside CB.

I'm guessing that played the biggest role in his decision.

I think proving on a one year deal is right ... we probably wanted a longer commitment which would also help spread the money.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 2:12:30 PM)

We have another signing!

https://www.vikings.com/news/dan-bailey-agree-to-terms-2020-free-agency




Tom Sykes -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 2:18:24 PM)

From the Strib's Andrew Krammer ... some cheap journeyman FAs with local connections:

CB Johnathan Joseph (Texans) — Joseph, who turns 36 next month, is a free agent ahead of his 15th NFL season. He started for both Mike Zimmer’s Bengals (’08-’10) and Gary Kubiak’s Texans (’11-’13), giving the Vikings plenty of insight about a veteran addition to their vacated cornerback room. Joseph is coming off 11 starts with 13 pass deflections and one interception.

CB Nickell Robey-Coleman (Rams) — Robey-Coleman, a stout 28-year-old slot defender, had his 2020 option declined by Los Angeles. This means a potential signing would not count against the Vikings’ compensatory pick formula, as the new CBA recently changed. The Vikings previously inquired about signing Robey-Coleman during the 2017 offseason. They have another chance this month.

S Darian Stewart (Buccaneers) — Stewart, 31, may be an affordable veteran addition as a reclamation project. He followed Kubiak from the Ravens to the Broncos in 2014-2015 and started during Denver’s Super Bowl run. But he started just one game for the disappointing Bucs last season.

S Walt Aikens (Dolphins) — Aikens, 28, led the Dolphins in special teams snaps for five of his six NFL seasons. Four of those years came under Vikings special teams coordinator Marwan Maalouf, who was a Dolphins assistant from 2013-2018. Familiarity could lead to a reunion in the secondary, where the Vikings lost a special teams leader in Jayron Kearse to the Lions in free agency.

G Ronald Leary (Broncos) — Leary, who turns 31 next month, had his 2020 option declined by the Broncos. So he, too, would not count against the Vikings’ comp pick formula. The Cowboys’ former left guard was a three-year starter in Denver, but each Broncos season ended in injury limiting him to 29 of 48 starts. Solid pass protector when healthy.

OT/G Joe Haeg (Colts) — Haeg, 26, is a Brainerd native who attended North Dakota State before becoming a 2016 fifth-round pick in Indianapolis. Started two seasons at right guard and right tackle. Relegated to a backup role after an ankle injury in 2018. Versatile, hometown product who could intrigue the Vikings.

G Max Garcia (Cardinals) — Garcia, 28, was a fourth-round pick by Gary Kubiak’s Broncos in 2015 out of Florida. Now that Kubiak stepped in as Vikings OC, would he stump for a reunion with his former left guard? Garcia didn’t play much last season while recovering from an ACL tear suffered November 2018.

WR Demaryius Thomas (Jets) — Another former Broncos draft pick, Thomas could do worse than the Vikings in seeking a team to revitalize the second half of his NFL career. Thomas, 32, caught 36 passes for 433 yards and a touchdown in 11 games for the Jets last season. He hasn’t had a 1,000-yard season since 2016 and tore his Achilles in 2018.

WR Taylor Gabriel (Bears) — Gabriel, 29, was released by the Bears this offseason. So he, too, would not count against the Vikings’ comp pick formula if signed. The former Browns and Falcons burner missed seven games last year due to concussions. If healthy, he may be able to replace some of the speed left in the Stefon Diggs trade.

WR Jarius Wright (Panthers) — The former Vikings receiver is available again after the Panthers declined his 2020 option. Statistically, Wright’s most productive days are still in Minnesota, where the Vikings need reliable depth and a third-down catch once in a while.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 2:22:44 PM)

I believe someone already brought this up, but Mike Person was good enough to start for the Niners last year at 3 million per. Now he's a free agent. He was a RG.

He has the capability to back up all five positions along the O-line, meaning he’ll stick around even if he somehow doesn’t win back the starting right guard spot out of training camp.

https://ninernoise.com/2019/06/22/49ers-2019-series-offensive-guard-mike-person/




Tom Sykes -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 2:22:53 PM)

RE Person ... Bruce beat me to it.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 2:43:43 PM)

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Chris Tomasson@christomasson
With departure of Mackensie Alexander, Marcus Sayles believes can help #Vikings at nickelback “I’m confident I can come in & immediately help the team.. I’m really quick, I have quick-twitch muscles I can keep up with a lot of receivers..I just think my skill set fits the nickel"




Guest -> RE: Free Agency 2020 (3/19/2020 7:23:28 PM)

https://youtu.be/wDEy5dP9y3s

Sorry if this has already been posted. This Pierce dude takes on sooo many double teams and gives very little if any ground.




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