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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

Assuming our draft picks in the first 3 rounds all pan out, we could really be set up for 2021. We can dump Reiff's big contract, our oline will be young and cheap at both T positions, and we'll be young and cheap at CB. Our WR corps will also be cheaper without Diggs contract. Unfortunately, this year we still have BIG question marks at CB, WR, and OL.

Taking a look at the (likely) post-draft roster, the Vikings have a few needs to fill out via FA. There will be some vets cuts, hopefully a few that can contribute to the Vikings:

CB - we have an influx of talent but almost no NFL experience at the position
S - need depth with NFL experience
OG - currently 3 guards on the roster and one is Eflein(!). Samia will man one spot (33 total snaps in the NFL) and if one of our T move to guard they will have zero NFL experience. Dicey.
WR - very thin at the position, should add a vet with deep speed

If everything breaks right for the Vikings they should be competitive this year, but currently teams like the 49ers and Chiefs seem like they're in a different league than us.

Good stuff. I would add DE and DT to the mix. We were one of the youngest teams the last couple years and got younger. Makes sense to bring Griff back. Be a big year for guys like Watt/Irv to step up.
Guards we have Elf, Collins, Samia, Dozier, Jones - right? Not counting the late rounders drafted.

I think we are more talented in areas than last year (T, CB) and less in others (WR). I enjoy rooting for young players trying to make it vs declining vets.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

Assuming our draft picks in the first 3 rounds all pan out, we could really be set up for 2021. We can dump Reiff's big contract, our oline will be young and cheap at both T positions, and we'll be young and cheap at CB. Our WR corps will also be cheaper without Diggs contract. Unfortunately, this year we still have BIG question marks at CB, WR, and OL.

Taking a look at the (likely) post-draft roster, the Vikings have a few needs to fill out via FA. There will be some vets cuts, hopefully a few that can contribute to the Vikings:

CB - we have an influx of talent but almost no NFL experience at the position
S - need depth with NFL experience
OG - currently 3 guards on the roster and one is Eflein(!). Samia will man one spot (33 total snaps in the NFL) and if one of our T move to guard they will have zero NFL experience. Dicey.
WR - very thin at the position, should add a vet with deep speed

If everything breaks right for the Vikings they should be competitive this year, but currently teams like the 49ers and Chiefs seem like they're in a different league than us.

Good stuff. I would add DE and DT to the mix. We were one of the youngest teams the last couple years and got younger. Makes sense to bring Griff back. Be a big year for guys like Watt/Irv to step up.
Guards we have Elf, Collins, Samia, Dozier, Jones - right? Not counting the late rounders drafted.

I think we are more talented in areas than last year (T, CB) and less in others (WR). I enjoy rooting for young players trying to make it vs declining vets.

This was slated to be a rough off-season for sure, and was made more problematic with Diggs leaving
I think as of right now this is probably a 9 and 7 or 10 and 6 type team with enough talent to compete
Should have enough talent to compete for a wild card or NFC North title
We need a couple of these rookies to shine for sure
There is a fair amount riding on them for sure
Let’s remember though Rhodes was freaking terrible, so hard to not upgrade
I’m hopeful with Kubiak more hands on he can get this line and Cousins more in synch
I wouldn’t pencil in San Fran just yet. They were not that far off from Chicago 2 years ago. Garrapalo did not look good and will have to raise his play
KC has Mahomes which we will just never have in the near future

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I kinda like that bit on Udoh...sounds like he could fit many places

based on how the draft played out, they must think a couple of those developmental guys can take the next step...

this is where we see if some of the "development" that has purportedly been happening has happened like it should...

you would like to think a 2nd round LT (Cleveland) wouldn't need a year to be groomed, but the third day guys (Samia and Udoh), yes

So, if Cleveland is legit at LT and Reiff can move inside to LG, Udoh at RG (6-5, 325 sounds prototypical road grader RG) and O'Neil stays at RT, hate to disrupt a good thing there...

or if we jettison Reiff and Samia is solid at RG, maybe Udoh is a potential LG

seems like lots of potential

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Lacina the next Ham?

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I kinda like that bit on Udoh...sounds like he could fit many places

based on how the draft played out, they must think a couple of those developmental guys can take the next step...

this is where we see if some of the "development" that has purportedly been happening has happened like it should...

you would like to think a 2nd round LT (Cleveland) wouldn't need a year to be groomed, but the third day guys (Samia and Udoh), yes

So, if Cleveland is legit at LT and Reiff can move inside to LG, Udoh at RG (6-5, 325 sounds prototypical road grader RG) and O'Neil stays at RT, hate to disrupt a good thing there...

or if we jettison Reiff and Samia is solid at RG, maybe Udoh is a potential LG

seems like lots of potential

In Cleveland's case, it's more a question of strength than anything else. If he has the play strength to go against vets, he may have the savvy, technique, processing skills, and coachability to play sooner rather than later.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I kinda like that bit on Udoh...sounds like he could fit many places

based on how the draft played out, they must think a couple of those developmental guys can take the next step...

this is where we see if some of the "development" that has purportedly been happening has happened like it should...

you would like to think a 2nd round LT (Cleveland) wouldn't need a year to be groomed, but the third day guys (Samia and Udoh), yes

So, if Cleveland is legit at LT and Reiff can move inside to LG, Udoh at RG (6-5, 325 sounds prototypical road grader RG) and O'Neil stays at RT, hate to disrupt a good thing there...

or if we jettison Reiff and Samia is solid at RG, maybe Udoh is a potential LG

seems like lots of potential

In Cleveland's case, it's more a question of strength than anything else. If he has the play strength to go against vets, he may have the savvy, technique, processing skills, and coachability to play sooner rather than later.

They are talking about Cleveland starting out at guard, but if he is lacking at play strength at OT, he really would be lacking vs. some of the DT bullies in our division. It's just my opinion and I'm not an expert, Cleveland has to be a tackle and not a guard. I believe that Reiff is not a natural LT. Corey Chavous said that. If he remains on the team, I would try him at guard.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I kinda like that bit on Udoh...sounds like he could fit many places

based on how the draft played out, they must think a couple of those developmental guys can take the next step...

this is where we see if some of the "development" that has purportedly been happening has happened like it should...

you would like to think a 2nd round LT (Cleveland) wouldn't need a year to be groomed, but the third day guys (Samia and Udoh), yes

So, if Cleveland is legit at LT and Reiff can move inside to LG, Udoh at RG (6-5, 325 sounds prototypical road grader RG) and O'Neil stays at RT, hate to disrupt a good thing there...

or if we jettison Reiff and Samia is solid at RG, maybe Udoh is a potential LG

seems like lots of potential

In Cleveland's case, it's more a question of strength than anything else. If he has the play strength to go against vets, he may have the savvy, technique, processing skills, and coachability to play sooner rather than later.

They are talking about Cleveland starting out at guard, but if he is lacking at play strength at OT, he really would be lacking vs. some of the DT bullies in our division. It's just my opinion and I'm not an expert, Cleveland has to be a tackle and not a guard. I believe that Reiff is not a natural LT. Corey Chavous said that. If he remains on the team, I would try him at guard.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

After the fourth round, I see nothing but practice dummies. All of the movement after the fourth round with trades and such is just arrogance and nonsense. No need to have that many fifth, sixth and seventh round picks. Most of the guys would have been available as UDFA.

BINGO

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Vikings with the best draft grade average:

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/vikings-draft-class-praised-as-best-in-nfl

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

After the fourth round, I see nothing but practice dummies. All of the movement after the fourth round with trades and such is just arrogance and nonsense. No need to have that many fifth, sixth and seventh round picks. Most of the guys would have been available as UDFA.

BINGO

NFL Network had a graph that showed 65% of the players in the NFL are 4th Round and later.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

I kinda like that bit on Udoh...sounds like he could fit many places

based on how the draft played out, they must think a couple of those developmental guys can take the next step...

this is where we see if some of the "development" that has purportedly been happening has happened like it should...

you would like to think a 2nd round LT (Cleveland) wouldn't need a year to be groomed, but the third day guys (Samia and Udoh), yes

So, if Cleveland is legit at LT and Reiff can move inside to LG, Udoh at RG (6-5, 325 sounds prototypical road grader RG) and O'Neil stays at RT, hate to disrupt a good thing there...

or if we jettison Reiff and Samia is solid at RG, maybe Udoh is a potential LG

seems like lots of potential

In Cleveland's case, it's more a question of strength than anything else. If he has the play strength to go against vets, he may have the savvy, technique, processing skills, and coachability to play sooner rather than later.

They are talking about Cleveland starting out at guard, but if he is lacking at play strength at OT, he really would be lacking vs. some of the DT bullies in our division. It's just my opinion and I'm not an expert, Cleveland has to be a tackle and not a guard. I believe that Reiff is not a natural LT. Corey Chavous said that. If he remains on the team, I would try him at guard.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Vikings with the best draft grade average:

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-sports/vikings-draft-class-praised-as-best-in-nfl

When you have that many picks, you can have 7 guys that bomb and still have a great draft.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

After the fourth round, I see nothing but practice dummies. All of the movement after the fourth round with trades and such is just arrogance and nonsense. No need to have that many fifth, sixth and seventh round picks. Most of the guys would have been available as UDFA.


BINGO

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

Assuming our draft picks in the first 3 rounds all pan out, we could really be set up for 2021. We can dump Reiff's big contract, our oline will be young and cheap at both T positions, and we'll be young and cheap at CB. Our WR corps will also be cheaper without Diggs contract. Unfortunately, this year we still have BIG question marks at CB, WR, and OL.

Taking a look at the (likely) post-draft roster, the Vikings have a few needs to fill out via FA. There will be some vets cuts, hopefully a few that can contribute to the Vikings:

CB - we have an influx of talent but almost no NFL experience at the position
S - need depth with NFL experience
OG - currently 3 guards on the roster and one is Eflein(!). Samia will man one spot (33 total snaps in the NFL) and if one of our T move to guard they will have zero NFL experience. Dicey.
WR - very thin at the position, should add a vet with deep speed

If everything breaks right for the Vikings they should be competitive this year, but currently teams like the 49ers and Chiefs seem like they're in a different league than us.

Good stuff. I would add DE and DT to the mix. We were one of the youngest teams the last couple years and got younger. Makes sense to bring Griff back. Be a big year for guys like Watt/Irv to step up.
Guards we have Elf, Collins, Samia, Dozier, Jones - right? Not counting the late rounders drafted.

I think we are more talented in areas than last year (T, CB) and less in others (WR). I enjoy rooting for young players trying to make it vs declining vets.