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thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 2:58:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I believe many of you will find this interesting. Adjustment is made for how the game has changed.

http://www.footballperspective.com/adjusting-passer-rating-for-era-updated-2019-career-ratings/

I like it. Fran 16th, Daunte 38th and Captain Kirk 40th best all time.
Go Vikings[sm=govikes.gif][sm=icon_cheers.gif][sm=high5.gif]


Where's my guy Ponder? Probably between Fran and Daunte, right?

I edited my post. Tommy Kramer 115 Ponder was among a group nowhere to be seen.


Been saying it for years.

Frankie Albert gets disrespected every year by the HOF voters....[;)]


Is that Frankie "Fat" Albert?




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 2:59:56 PM)

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also, holton hill had all of his dreadlocks cut off....


Chris Tomasson@christomasson

#Vikings Andre Patterson on Holton Hill “He’s much more focused than when he first came in here I got to see him a couple of days ago He looks like he’s in great shape Doing the virtual meetings he was on point as far as answering the questions & knowing what he was supposed to do.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 6:05:57 PM)

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 6:45:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.

Nothing on RotoWorld yet. 3 years $30 million is exactly what I've been saying is fair all along. However, this could definitely be fake.

I just looked into it more. It's fake without question.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 6:47:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 6:50:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer

A shame that it's fake. 3 years $30 million is the perfect fair number.




joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 7:11:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer


Why would someone put out phony news about a football player and his contract? A lot of people need attention to feel special nowadays.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 7:13:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer


Why would someone put out phony news about a football player and his contract? A lot of people need attention to feel special nowadays.


Dude set up fake Twitter and IG accounts (with all the correct info and images) to post stuff.




joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 7:17:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer


Why would someone put out phony news about a football player and his contract? A lot of people need attention to feel special nowadays.


Dude set up fake Twitter and IG accounts (with all the correct info and images) to post stuff.


His mom didn't hug him enough when he was a child. How is this COVID thing affecting your wife and her card playing, David? I hope you guys are doing okay!




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 7:19:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer


Why would someone put out phony news about a football player and his contract? A lot of people need attention to feel special nowadays.


Dude set up fake Twitter and IG accounts (with all the correct info and images) to post stuff.


His mom didn't hug him enough when he was a child. How is this COVID thing affecting your wife and her card playing, David? I hope you guys are doing okay!


She's played a few online tournaments, but nothing live. Its not unusual for her to take months off at a time from playing anyways. Losing the WSOP sucks though.

I've worked from home for close to 14 years, so its business as usual for me.




joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 7:21:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is big news.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1291866256472182784?s=09

But I can't confirm it. It might be fake.


Fake.

This is Dalvin's agent:

https://twitter.com/zachiller

The report came from:

https://twitter.com/zachiIIer


Why would someone put out phony news about a football player and his contract? A lot of people need attention to feel special nowadays.


Dude set up fake Twitter and IG accounts (with all the correct info and images) to post stuff.


His mom didn't hug him enough when he was a child. How is this COVID thing affecting your wife and her card playing, David? I hope you guys are doing okay!


She's played a few online tournaments, but nothing live. Its not unusual for her to take months off at a time from playing anyways. Losing the WSOP sucks though.

I've worked from home for close to 14 years, so its business as usual for me.


Good deal. My wife and I are both working from home. It's hard being a social while not being able to be "social", but I'm up to the challenge. Take care of yourselves.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 10:21:47 PM)

Disappointing.

Former #Vikings CB Captain Munnerlyn was arrested at a Miami airport today after a fugitive warrant was issued for him in Las Vegas for writing bad checks

Munnerlyn has earned over $24M in his #NFL career

(Per @AndySlater) https://t.co/3s1jyTcge3




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 10:22:52 PM)

#Vikings QB Kirk Cousins said he did connect with Justin Jefferson to work out for a few days in Minnesota.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 10:30:52 PM)

#Vikings Andre Patterson says people look unfairly at Shamar Stephen due to his statistics. Patterson lauded Stephen as a defensive tackle.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter.

It reminds me of the kind words of Kubiak for Reiff.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/7/2020 10:49:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Vikings Andre Patterson says people look unfairly at Shamar Stephen due to his statistics. Patterson lauded Stephen as a defensive tackle.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter.

It reminds me of the kind words of Kubiak for Reiff.

Stats matter. They aren't the beginning and end of rating a player, but good players tend to have good stats. Stephens stats are pathetic.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 5:07:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Vikings Andre Patterson says people look unfairly at Shamar Stephen due to his statistics. Patterson lauded Stephen as a defensive tackle.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter.

It reminds me of the kind words of Kubiak for Reiff.

Stats matter. They aren't the beginning and end of rating a player, but good players tend to have good stats. Stephens stats are pathetic.


What Patterson said was that Stephens job is to keep the o-line off of kendricks, not to get sacks - his job doesn’t show up on the stat sheet...Patterson thinks Stephens does this remarkably well....




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 6:20:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Vikings Andre Patterson says people look unfairly at Shamar Stephen due to his statistics. Patterson lauded Stephen as a defensive tackle.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter.

It reminds me of the kind words of Kubiak for Reiff.

Stats matter. They aren't the beginning and end of rating a player, but good players tend to have good stats. Stephens stats are pathetic.


What Patterson said was that Stephens job is to keep the o-line off of kendricks, not to get sacks - his job doesn’t show up on the stat sheet...Patterson thinks Stephens does this remarkably well....


Then he should be an offensive lineman if he is so good at blocking.

If Stephen continues to start than we will know that he is saying what he believes and not just trying to support a player with appreciation. Put me in the camp that is skeptical and thinking he will have to raise his game up this season.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 8:09:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Vikings Andre Patterson says people look unfairly at Shamar Stephen due to his statistics. Patterson lauded Stephen as a defensive tackle.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter.

It reminds me of the kind words of Kubiak for Reiff.

Stats matter. They aren't the beginning and end of rating a player, but good players tend to have good stats. Stephens stats are pathetic.


What Patterson said was that Stephens job is to keep the o-line off of kendricks, not to get sacks - his job doesn’t show up on the stat sheet...Patterson thinks Stephens does this remarkably well....

Stephen makes virtually no tackles of any kind sacks or otherwise. Patterson seems to appreciate the way he ties up blockers allowing others to make tackles. I still stand by my statement that good players tend to have good stats. Maybe Stephen is one of the exceptions to that.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 8:09:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

#Vikings Andre Patterson says people look unfairly at Shamar Stephen due to his statistics. Patterson lauded Stephen as a defensive tackle.

Chris Tomasson on Twitter.

It reminds me of the kind words of Kubiak for Reiff.

Stats matter. They aren't the beginning and end of rating a player, but good players tend to have good stats. Stephens stats are pathetic.


What Patterson said was that Stephens job is to keep the o-line off of kendricks, not to get sacks - his job doesn’t show up on the stat sheet...Patterson thinks Stephens does this remarkably well....


Then he should be an offensive lineman if he is so good at blocking.

If Stephen continues to start than we will know that he is saying what he believes and not just trying to support a player with appreciation. Put me in the camp that is skeptical and thinking he will have to raise his game up this season.

[:D]




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 10:26:36 AM)

Here is Patterson's full quote about Stephen:

“I always go back to last year when we played the Dallas Cowboys,” Patterson said. “They have the number one offensive line in the league and one of the top running backs in the league and we played that game with Shamar Stephen and Armon Watts and Jaleel Johnson and they played great that night. We have great competition in that room at that position and I think we're going to be just fine.”

In that game against Dallas, Watts made his debut and had three run stops and a QB pressure in just four snaps and it was the only game in which Shamar Stephen had multiple QB pressures. Patterson was defensive about suggestions that Stephen is a weak link on the defense and went into great detail about the difference between a defensive tackle who is asked to penetrate the offensive line and one whose job is sticking the guard in his place.

“People write stuff about Shamar Stephen, and I get it because everybody just looks at stats, but if you watch film and you ask Eric Kendricks if he had to pick anybody to go to the game with that he'd make sure that guy was there, I guarantee he'd tell you it's 93 because 93 is not going to let anybody get to the second level and block Eric,” Patterson explained. “They're doing what we coach them to do. Some people take that three technique role, and that guy's a penetrating guy. He's trying to get in the backfield and get tackles for losses and is better on his pass rush because he's moving forward, but we don't ask our guy to do that. We ask our guy to keep Eric Kendricks free. We want to flatten out the line of scrimmage. Don't let any linemen leave the line of scrimmage, the inside guys, and let Eric free.”


https://purpleinsider.substack.com/p/camp-rundown-dts-knocks-on-wood-and




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 4:19:10 PM)

To make room for the LB:

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/08/vikings-have-4-rbs-on-roster-after-waiving-tony-brooks-james/




Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 11:00:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

To make room for the LB:

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/08/vikings-have-4-rbs-on-roster-after-waiving-tony-brooks-james/

LB Cameron Smith having open heart surgery. He will miss season.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/8/2020 11:46:20 PM)

Wow. That's never good for a young athlete. He will likely be out permanently, but we all wish him the best.

Edit: Here is Smith correcting me assuring that he will be back. He calls himself lucky that a heart abnormality was discovered after he was infected with Covid. What a twist of fate.

https://twitter.com/Eric_L_Smith/status/1292223200143839233?s=09




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/9/2020 12:05:13 AM)

I am reading on Twitter indirectly from Darren Wolfson that the Vikings have made an offer to Everson Griffen. I guess we'll have to see what develops. An offer is not the same as an agreement.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/9/2020 12:25:38 AM)

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/08/08/if-college-football-season-doesnt-happen-nfl-likely-will-play-on-saturdays/




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