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kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/9/2020 11:16:37 PM)
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Wow. That's never good for a young athlete. He will likely be out permanently, but we all wish him the best.
Edit: Here is Smith correcting me assuring that he will be back. He calls himself lucky that a heart abnormality was discovered after he was infected with Covid. What a twist of fate.
https://twitter.com/Eric_L_Smith/status/1292223200143839233?s=09
I thought the same thing. There is concern about COVID causing long-term or permanent damage to organs, including the heart. In this case, it may have saved his heart and his life. This shows how people often discover health problems they have by having other health problems, which is yet another flaw in assuming everyone who seems young and healthy will not be harmed badly by COVID.
And no one assumes EVERYONE.
Fair point. So people who advocate having a football season are fine with permanent damage or death to some number of players?
There is permanent damage done to some players every season.
An unfortunate part of the game, but also one that every player is fully aware of when they choose to play the sport.
Not sure how COVID falls under the same category.
Just saying that people who advocate having ANY football season are fine with permanent damage or death to some number of players.
Also players had the opportunity to not participate in the 2020 NFL season, considering the cost/benefit of imagined COVID risks and only getting paid a stipend (well North of my yearly salary) vs playing and making their contracted millions.
Again, as Bob said, what about all the people they come into contact with?
I can't remember the last time a player brought home an ACL injury and gave it to his family and friends.
Unless you go with a "bubble" like the NBA or NHL, you're endangering a lot more people than just the players/teams.
That's one of the risks the player should be considering. Then they should opt out. If enough of them were agreeable to $150,000 vs their regular salaries then there would be no season. But most players would rather play AKA take the money.
Is it indisputable that Covid causes long term damage to healthy people? Just wondering if they would need a longer term study to determine this.
It certainly can. If a person goes into ARDS and has to go on a vent, they can definitely end up with permanent impairment.
It's possible. How likely is it?
About a third die. From the Mayo Clinic:
Many people who develop ARDS don't survive. The risk of death increases with age and severity of illness. Of the people who do survive ARDS, some recover completely while others experience lasting damage to their lungs.
Thanks to improved treatments, more people are surviving ARDS. However, many survivors end up with potentially serious and sometimes lasting effects:
Breathing problems. Many people with ARDS recover most of their lung function within several months to two years, but others may have breathing problems for the rest of their lives. Even people who do well usually have shortness of breath and fatigue and may need supplemental oxygen at home for a few months.
Depression. Most ARDS survivors also report going through a period of depression, which is treatable.
Problems with memory and thinking clearly. Sedatives and low levels of oxygen in the blood can lead to memory loss and cognitive problems after ARDS. In some cases, the effects may lessen over time, but in others, the damage may be permanent.
Tiredness and muscle weakness. Being in the hospital and on a ventilator can cause your muscles to weaken. You also may feel very tired following treatment.
This is specifically about people with ARDS (Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome), which is the lungs' version of organ failure. COVID patients who end up on a ventilator almost always have ARDS.
To date no football players have gone on a ventilator due to complications of COVID-19. Hopefully it stays that way.
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