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Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/30/2020 6:36:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I had almost forgotten how great Percy Harvin was. These highlights brought it all back to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC3lNjpO3a8 Harvin was simply awesome. Looks like he is shot out of a cannon when he accelerates.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/30/2020 6:57:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom I had almost forgotten how great Percy Harvin was. These highlights brought it all back to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC3lNjpO3a8 Harvin was simply awesome. Looks like he is shot out of a cannon when he accelerates. He's still young. Let's bring him back. [:D]

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/30/2020 7:29:46 PM)
That's so fun to watch. He'll always be one of my favs Thinking back to how much negativity Harvin and Favre brought but you look at that and it's just pure exuberance mixed with phenomenal skill. They score and they all celebrate. A notable lack of choreographed bits. If we could have just had that one time.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/30/2020 8:09:37 PM)
How many times would you have watched America's Game...Vikings 2009?

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/30/2020 8:12:03 PM)
No 12 man penalty...a couple yards gain and a 48 yard FG to go onto the SB.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/30/2020 9:38:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M No 12 man penalty...a couple yards gain and a 48 yard FG to go onto the SB. That was F up!

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 9:02:05 AM)
. . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 9:31:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that?

Murph -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 10:02:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 10:53:04 AM)
Top 5 picks of 2017: 1 CLE- Mules Garrett (5th year exercised) 2 Chi- Trubisky (TBA) 3 SF - Solomon Thomas (Declined 5th year) 4 Jax - L Fournette (TBA) 5 TEN Corey Davis (Declined)

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 10:59:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Murph quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract. Thing is, if a guy doesn't have a lot of milage you want that to be from lack of opportunity not from bring on IR. Either way I'm pro signing him.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 11:13:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Top 5 picks of 2017: 1 CLE- Mules Garrett (5th year exercised) 2 Chi- Trubisky (TBA) 3 SF - Solomon Thomas (Declined 5th year) 4 Jax - L Fournette (TBA) 5 TEN Corey Davis (Declined) Fire Speilman

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 11:38:13 AM)
What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)]

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 11:54:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Murph quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract. Thing is, if a guy doesn't have a lot of milage you want that to be from lack of opportunity not from bring on IR. Either way I'm pro signing him. he's only been available or 58% of the games since being drafted - one decent season out of three?...$10m/yr?...did you see that statistic where rb's were deemed worthless in the draft?...i mean, wtf?....

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 11:56:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)] we will sign him - $5m/1yr - they're saving his number for a reason....

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 12:12:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: marty What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)] we will sign him - $5m/1yr - they're saving his number for a reason.... IMO that would be a bargain. Can we do that and hold on to Harris?

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 12:14:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Murph quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract. Thing is, if a guy doesn't have a lot of milage you want that to be from lack of opportunity not from bring on IR. Either way I'm pro signing him. he's only been available or 58% of the games since being drafted - one decent season out of three?...$10m/yr?...did you see that statistic where rb's were deemed worthless in the draft?...i mean, wtf?.... Last year he played 14. I don't think his missing games years 1 and 2 were due to some deficiency or injury gene.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 12:58:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: marty What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)] we will sign him - $5m/1yr - they're saving his number for a reason.... IMO that would be a bargain. Can we do that and hold on to Harris? we can always rework smith...cut Stephen and/or elflien.... harris is in a tough spot...he'll be 29 by the time the season starts - these next three years are everything to him in terms of money that he's going to make as a pro football player....

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:00:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: marty What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)] we will sign him - $5m/1yr - they're saving his number for a reason.... IMO that would be a bargain. Can we do that and hold on to Harris? we can always rework smith...cut Stephen and/or elflien.... harris is in a tough spot...he'll be 29 by the time the season starts - these next three years are everything to him in terms of money that he's going to make as a pro football player.... The Vikings should be the ones paying him. Make him a reasonable offer. If he can't accept a reasonable offer than keep him on the franchise tag this year and let him go next year.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:03:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Murph quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract. Thing is, if a guy doesn't have a lot of milage you want that to be from lack of opportunity not from bring on IR. Either way I'm pro signing him. he's only been available or 58% of the games since being drafted - one decent season out of three?...$10m/yr?...did you see that statistic where rb's were deemed worthless in the draft?...i mean, wtf?.... Last year he played 14. I don't think his missing games years 1 and 2 were due to some deficiency or injury gene. the last six games of 2019 he rushed for....26, 29, 62, 27, 0, 0....

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:06:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: marty What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)] we will sign him - $5m/1yr - they're saving his number for a reason.... IMO that would be a bargain. Can we do that and hold on to Harris? we can always rework smith...cut Stephen and/or elflien.... harris is in a tough spot...he'll be 29 by the time the season starts - these next three years are everything to him in terms of money that he's going to make as a pro football player.... The Vikings should be the ones paying him. Make him a reasonable offer. If he can't accept a reasonable offer than keep him on the franchise tag this year and let him go next year. i agree, something like; $40m/4yrs, $15m signing bonus, $25m guaranteed....

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:17:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Murph quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract. Thing is, if a guy doesn't have a lot of milage you want that to be from lack of opportunity not from bring on IR. Either way I'm pro signing him. he's only been available or 58% of the games since being drafted - one decent season out of three?...$10m/yr?...did you see that statistic where rb's were deemed worthless in the draft?...i mean, wtf?.... Last year he played 14. I don't think his missing games years 1 and 2 were due to some deficiency or injury gene. the last six games of 2019 he rushed for....26, 29, 62, 27, 0, 0.... Yup. He still picked up an annual injury, but he was able to (mostly) play through it - but he was nowhere near his normal self. He played 6 games after the injury (including the 2 Playoff games) and averaged just over 3 YPC - with a high game of 3.44. During Week 10 against the Dallas Cowboys, Cook rushed 26 times for 97 yards and a touchdown and caught seven passes for 86 yards in the 28–24 road victory. He was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week for his performance. However, Cook suffered a chest injury and would have only 117 rushing yards over the next four weeks (including a Week 12 bye), though he did have one touchdown in each of his three games of limited action over that time period. Cook was forced to miss the Vikings' Week 16 game against the Packers on Monday Night Football due to his chest injury. Without Cook, the Vikings lost 23–10.

unome -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:23:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: marty What about resigning Griffen ? His number is still available [:)] we will sign him - $5m/1yr - they're saving his number for a reason.... IMO that would be a bargain. Can we do that and hold on to Harris? we can always rework smith...cut Stephen and/or elflien.... harris is in a tough spot...he'll be 29 by the time the season starts - these next three years are everything to him in terms of money that he's going to make as a pro football player.... The Vikings should be the ones paying him. Make him a reasonable offer. If he can't accept a reasonable offer than keep him on the franchise tag this year and let him go next year. i agree, something like; $40m/4yrs, $15m signing bonus, $25m guaranteed.... I would do that deal, but I think there is almost no chance Cook does. McCaffrey's and Zeke's deals are just for so much more and I doubt Cook thinks he is that much less valuable of a RB than they are, although arguably he is. I think we will sign him and it will be for a fair amount of money more than this and it will be a mistake just like Peterson's huge deal was.

unome -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:26:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Murph quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . the media has me convinced that this is really going to happen...he's played in 28 out a possible 48 games...one year over 1000 yards - 1,134...last year he only had one game with over 100yds rushing in the last 11 games of the season...he looks incredibly dynamic when he's got it going on, but he's very very inconsistent and like most rb's needs big holes to play well - who wouldn't play well with the space that he saw early last year?...no one else would sign this guy for top money...crazy.... Courtney Cronin@CourtneyRCronin With the draft complete, money not spent on Trent Williams and only $4.164 million of cap space needed to sign their rookie class, the Vikings are in prime position to lock up the centerpiece of their offense. A Dalvin Cook extension feels imminent. 4 year deal 10 million a year, incentives for more, 20 million in guaranteed money. I can live with that. Cook is one of the 5 best RBs in the league. Can Cook live with that? Can't pay Cook crazy money but for our scheme, he is the best RB in the league. Mattison is good to very good in this run scheme, Cook is a monster, a home run hitter. He doesn't have a a lot of mileage and due to past injuries, we should be able to get him on a team friendly, incentive laden contract. Thing is, if a guy doesn't have a lot of milage you want that to be from lack of opportunity not from bring on IR. Either way I'm pro signing him. he's only been available or 58% of the games since being drafted - one decent season out of three?...$10m/yr?...did you see that statistic where rb's were deemed worthless in the draft?...i mean, wtf?.... Last year he played 14. I don't think his missing games years 1 and 2 were due to some deficiency or injury gene. the last six games of 2019 he rushed for....26, 29, 62, 27, 0, 0.... Yup. He still picked up an annual injury, but he was able to (mostly) play through it - but he was nowhere near his normal self. He played 6 games after the injury (including the 2 Playoff games) and averaged just over 3 YPC - with a high game of 3.44. During Week 10 against the Dallas Cowboys, Cook rushed 26 times for 97 yards and a touchdown and caught seven passes for 86 yards in the 28–24 road victory. He was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week for his performance. However, Cook suffered a chest injury and would have only 117 rushing yards over the next four weeks (including a Week 12 bye), though he did have one touchdown in each of his three games of limited action over that time period. Cook was forced to miss the Vikings' Week 16 game against the Packers on Monday Night Football due to his chest injury. Without Cook, the Vikings lost 23–10. So injuries significantly shortened or hampered three out of three NFL seasons. If I did the math correctly, that is 100%. KG, shouldn't that be a concern?

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (5/1/2020 1:34:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: unome So injuries significantly shortened or hampered three out of three NFL seasons. If I did the math correctly, that is 100%. KG, shouldn't that be a concern? Pre-injury, 10 Games: 203 Carries (20/Game), 991 yards, 4.9 YPC. Post-injury, 6 Games: 84 Carries (14/Game), 256 yards, 3.0 YPC. He also only had 9 carries in 3 of the 6 post-injury games.

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