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Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 2:57:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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We drafted this 6’-7” Swiss Army knife....

Courtney R. DraftScout@CourtneyRCronin
Zach Davidson said not a lot of teams looked at him as a punter prospect in the NFL based on his impact at tight end later in his college career.


Courtney R. DraftScout@CourtneyRCronin
"Punting is in my back pocket. I was drafted as a tight end." - Zach Davidson

Also:
"I have OK skills at long snapping."


"I was drafted as a TE."

LMAO! You are competing at strong side DE Zach, didn't you get the memo?!




Hats4Bats -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 3:08:03 PM)

There are some really good WR's left. I am guessing two to three as UDFA will want to come here and compete against the almighty Beebe and Bisi




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 3:11:33 PM)

If I had to guess I'd say Houston and Atlanta will be drafting really early for the next few years. They seem like two franchises in total disarray.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 3:23:58 PM)

Twyman, smaller DT. Draft is a wrap, except for the undrafted.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 3:25:37 PM)

After the 7th round, get on the phone to a kicker and some WRs. Maybe Trey Smith.




lyle chabot -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 3:26:23 PM)

I would have liked to get the kicker in the 5th round




Hats4Bats -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 3:33:11 PM)

2021 NFL Draft prospect Jaylen Twyman can be the next great Pitt pass rusher.

As yet another collegiate football player makes the decision to opt-out of the 2020 college football season, we can begin to take a closer look at the talent entering the 2021 NFL Draft pool.

Pittsburgh 4-3 defensive tackle Jaylen Twyman only played 21 games before opting out for the draft and brings with him an impressive collection of game tape as well as a stat sheet which shows 41 total tackles and 10.5 sacks, which is comparable to another Pitt product who has made one of the biggest impacts in the NFL to date.

Fellow Pittsburgh Panther and current LA Ram Aaron Donald posted similar numbers in his sophomore season, with 47 tackles and 11 sacks. The two players are both undersized and play with quickness and polished technique. Donald managed to change the NFL’s view on defensive tackles, creating a new trend of sack production by beating bigger, slower interior linemen with a blend of power, quickness, and technique.

Training together when Donald would return to Pitt in the offseason, a Jaylen Twyman feature by Pitt LiveWire shows the two training together and practicing their hand-technique.

Throughout the video, the immediate and strongest impression I gained was that Twyman is a strong character who is willing to put in the work to elevate his game. A specific segment showed Twyman stating why he enjoyed the defensive system at Pitt, saying he could go “one-on-one” and “help us make more plays.” This ‘NBA mentality’ is something that has become more popular in the world of sports and can define the good from the great.

Similar to Donald, Twyman is another product of this Pittsburgh program that is looking to become a known producer of modern NFL interior lineman who ‘pierce’ rather than ‘push’ through the line of scrimmage. This applies to both pass-rush and run-defending situations in which Twyman uses his quick and well-paired hands and feet to work past blockers. Some moves in his arsenal include swims, swipes, push-pulls, and other techniques to move laterally to the blocker.


Player Comparison: Geno Atkins, CIN

I understand that I have made comparisons to Aaron Donald throughout this article. Same college coaching staff, nearly identical builds and playstyles (“3-tech Penetrator”), polished techniques, Twyman can be the next Aaron Donald. But to compare Twyman to a player who is currently revolutionizing the way front offices think about their spending on defense is a very big leap.

Geno Atkins has been one of the most notable interior pass-rushers of the last decade and has been a staple of the Bengals defense. Atkins shares many of the same traits listed above and attended Georgia university, a prestigious and elite program offering the perfect development opportunities. Atkins averaged 9.75 sacks from 2015 to 2018 and has retained value late into his career thanks to technical proficiency.

Twyman has a high floor and can achieve more filling a unique and desired role in the modern NFL defensive landscape. A single season of college football is not necessarily enough to fully understand a player (e




Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:00:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

After the 7th round, get on the phone to a kicker and some WRs. Maybe Trey Smith.

If it's legal, be on the phone right now. "If you don't get picked, we have this amount of $$$ we can give you."




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:01:15 PM)

Can't believe all the guys going from Pittsburgh and Missouri. I must have missed the memo on those being good teams.




Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:01:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Yeah it really does have that feel of late round stabs.

That's because it is late round stabs. Once you hit the fourth or fifth round, it's all about getting lucky with one pick.

The chances of sticking drop down from the 3rd to the 4th, of course. As from every rd.

But there are still some good players, based on tape, production- and consensus opinion, on the 4th rd board.

The RB is a 7th rd pasta noodle flung up against the wall to see what happens in camp.

Running backs are a dime a dozen. Unless you get the one or two guys early, they are just guys. Easiest position on the field to replace after an injury.

Nobody disputes that. That doesn't mean you wave your hand and a decent one magically appears.

You still have to have them. Especially when your starter has an injury history.

Also, backup RB/KR is a little different for a team that sucks in their return game.

I'm guessing he would play every ST unit. Still, kind of early for drafting those guys.




Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:02:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Can't believe all the guys going from Pittsburgh and Missouri. I must have missed the memo on those being good teams.

How good was Aaron Donald's team?




ratoppenheimer -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:06:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

Smith Marsette is a good player.



He played on both sides and special teams....

As a senior, Smith-Marsette had 38 receptions for 773 yards and 13 touchdowns on offense and 43 tackles, three interceptions and two fumble recoveries on defense and also scored three touchdowns as a return specialist.




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:06:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Can't believe all the guys going from Pittsburgh and Missouri. I must have missed the memo on those being good teams.

How good was Aaron Donald's team?

All the guys. Hence, more than one. We've had five from Pitt in this draft. They were 6-5. Seems like a lot of guys from a 6-5 team in the ACC. Maybe it's just me.




Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:09:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Can't believe all the guys going from Pittsburgh and Missouri. I must have missed the memo on those being good teams.

How good was Aaron Donald's team?

All the guys. Hence, more than one. We've had five from Pitt in this draft. They were 6-5. Seems like a lot of guys from a 6-5 team in the ACC. Maybe it's just me.

Yeah. Speilman likes to double up. Hopefully it works out.




Mark Anderson -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:10:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

Smith Marsette is a good player.



He played on both sides and special teams....

As a senior, Smith-Marsette had 38 receptions for 773 yards and 13 touchdowns on offense and 43 tackles, three interceptions and two fumble recoveries on defense and also scored three touchdowns as a return specialist.

I was mad we didn't draft Okla. St. WR but this guy will do just fine.




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:10:38 PM)

I'm wondering if the pandemic really hindered their ability to see a lot of guys this year. It seems like a Power Five Draft so far. Not a lot of guys from outside the big conferences. Again, maybe it's just me.




Hats4Bats -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:17:52 PM)

This is a feel good story..Cheer for guys like this

The journey of 2021 NFL Draft prospect Zach Davidson

By Martin Rogers
FOX Sports Columnist

They love their football in Webb City, just outside Joplin in Southwest Missouri, and a short hop from the borders of Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas.

They love Webb City’s eponymous high school football team, a 15-time state champion, that serves as a source of civic pride and turns games into de facto community gatherings.

And they’ve fallen in love with the feel-good tale of one of their own. Zach Davidson, the NFL prospect who wasn’t even on the radar a couple of years ago, now shapes up as one of the most enjoyable stories of the draft.

Zach Davidson went from being a punter at Webb City High School in Southwest Missouri to now being an NFL Prospect.

Assuming he gets picked over the weekend, football fans around the country will soon be playing catch-up, for Davidson’s journey has been remarkable.

"Everyone is just amazed and excited by what he has accomplished to get to this point, where his ultimate dream could come true," John Roderique, head coach for 12 of Webb City’s state titles and still in charge of the program, told me via telephone on Thursday.

"People see him around town and there is a lot of pride in how far he has come. I’ve told him, I’m going to be in tears when he gets drafted."

Davidson is coming out of Division II Central Missouri, but as what, exactly? He punts with a booming leg that can clear the bleachers. He is teaching himself to long snap and place hold. He has even worked out as an H-back. Yet it is at tight end where he appears to have the most NFL potential, and what will likely earn him the call at some point in the middle to later rounds.

"I feel like the sky is the literal limit for me," Davidson told KOAM/FOX 14 television. "I’m just waiting on my shot."

He is an enigma, and he has an enigmatic story about how it all started.

During his sophomore year in high school, Davidson was tall and scrawny and the beneficiary of some good fortune when the varsity squad was hit by a suspension. According to Roderique, a couple of "little knuckleheads had been caught smashing up mailboxes" and Davidson was picked out of an impromptu JV trial.

He punted exclusively his junior year and was a depth chart tight end for his senior season, meaning college offers weren’t exactly flowing and the ones that did focused on his ability to boot it miles.

Davidson went to Central Missouri off the power of his leg, but never stopped working and never wavered in his belief he could be an elite tight end. He broke out in 2019, with All-American accolades at both positions. He had an average of more than 22 yards-per-catch and a tight end program-record 15 touchdowns.

The pandemic robbed him of the opportunity for a final campaign but Davidson committed himself to relentless preparation, both at a camp in Florida and back at Webb City, where he checks in with Roderique and uses the school facilities.

His pro day – where he recorded a 37.5-inch vertical, a 4.62 40-yard dash and 6.95 three-cone drill, all while standing at 6-foot-7 – ensured he would be much-discussed among NFL evaluators. Such prospects sometimes go higher than expected and Davidson’s stock has reached a point where it would be a major surprise if he were to go undrafted.

"A lot of people didn’t realize he was only 17 when he graduated high school, so he had a lot of growth potential," Roderique added. "He has built his strength and his speed and he is just tireless at it."

Webb City hearts were gladdened last year when offensive lineman Trystan Colon-Castillo was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, where he played two games in 2020. But Davidson is the prospect that came from deep. Really deep. Yet here he is.

Having needed to show ultimate faith in himself to get to this point, Davidson sees no reason to change that approach now and feels he can still take major strides forward.

"I am definitely very confident that once I get there I’ll be able to just expand my game to an all-time high," he added. "And learn from some of the best to ever do it."

Davidson is one of those special draft stories, of a player making the absolute most of his potential and overturning the odds. If that magic moment arrives for him this weekend, it will be the biggest step yet in an extraordinary journey. It will spark delight in Webb City, and see a tear of two trickle from his former coach’s eye.

"No one gets to the NFL who doesn’t deserve it," Roderique said. "But Zach, and how far he’s come? He really, really deserves it."




Hats4Bats -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:20:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

This is a feel good story..Cheer for guys like this

The journey of 2021 NFL Draft prospect Zach Davidson

By Martin Rogers
FOX Sports Columnist

They love their football in Webb City, just outside Joplin in Southwest Missouri, and a short hop from the borders of Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas.

They love Webb City’s eponymous high school football team, a 15-time state champion, that serves as a source of civic pride and turns games into de facto community gatherings.

And they’ve fallen in love with the feel-good tale of one of their own. Zach Davidson, the NFL prospect who wasn’t even on the radar a couple of years ago, now shapes up as one of the most enjoyable stories of the draft.

Zach Davidson went from being a punter at Webb City High School in Southwest Missouri to now being an NFL Prospect.

Assuming he gets picked over the weekend, football fans around the country will soon be playing catch-up, for Davidson’s journey has been remarkable.

"Everyone is just amazed and excited by what he has accomplished to get to this point, where his ultimate dream could come true," John Roderique, head coach for 12 of Webb City’s state titles and still in charge of the program, told me via telephone on Thursday.

"People see him around town and there is a lot of pride in how far he has come. I’ve told him, I’m going to be in tears when he gets drafted."

Davidson is coming out of Division II Central Missouri, but as what, exactly? He punts with a booming leg that can clear the bleachers. He is teaching himself to long snap and place hold. He has even worked out as an H-back. Yet it is at tight end where he appears to have the most NFL potential, and what will likely earn him the call at some point in the middle to later rounds.

"I feel like the sky is the literal limit for me," Davidson told KOAM/FOX 14 television. "I’m just waiting on my shot."

He is an enigma, and he has an enigmatic story about how it all started.

During his sophomore year in high school, Davidson was tall and scrawny and the beneficiary of some good fortune when the varsity squad was hit by a suspension. According to Roderique, a couple of "little knuckleheads had been caught smashing up mailboxes" and Davidson was picked out of an impromptu JV trial.

He punted exclusively his junior year and was a depth chart tight end for his senior season, meaning college offers weren’t exactly flowing and the ones that did focused on his ability to boot it miles.

Davidson went to Central Missouri off the power of his leg, but never stopped working and never wavered in his belief he could be an elite tight end. He broke out in 2019, with All-American accolades at both positions. He had an average of more than 22 yards-per-catch and a tight end program-record 15 touchdowns.

The pandemic robbed him of the opportunity for a final campaign but Davidson committed himself to relentless preparation, both at a camp in Florida and back at Webb City, where he checks in with Roderique and uses the school facilities.

His pro day – where he recorded a 37.5-inch vertical, a 4.62 40-yard dash and 6.95 three-cone drill, all while standing at 6-foot-7 – ensured he would be much-discussed among NFL evaluators. Such prospects sometimes go higher than expected and Davidson’s stock has reached a point where it would be a major surprise if he were to go undrafted.

"A lot of people didn’t realize he was only 17 when he graduated high school, so he had a lot of growth potential," Roderique added. "He has built his strength and his speed and he is just tireless at it."

Webb City hearts were gladdened last year when offensive lineman Trystan Colon-Castillo was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens, where he played two games in 2020. But Davidson is the prospect that came from deep. Really deep. Yet here he is.

Having needed to show ultimate faith in himself to get to this point, Davidson sees no reason to change that approach now and feels he can still take major strides forward.

"I am definitely very confident that once I get there I’ll be able to just expand my game to an all-time high," he added. "And learn from some of the best to ever do it."

Davidson is one of those special draft stories, of a player making the absolute most of his potential and overturning the odds. If that magic moment arrives for him this weekend, it will be the biggest step yet in an extraordinary journey. It will spark delight in Webb City, and see a tear of two trickle from his former coach’s eye.

"No one gets to the NFL who doesn’t deserve it," Roderique said. "But Zach, and how far he’s come? He really, really deserves it."

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Davidson is coming out of Division II Central Missouri, but as what, exactly? He punts with a booming leg that can clear the bleachers. He is teaching himself to long snap and place hold. He has even worked out as an H-back. Yet it is at tight end where he appears to have the most NFL potential, and what will likely earn him the call at some point in the middle to later rounds.


This is the best part: Davidson is coming out of Division II Central Missouri, but as what, exactly? He punts with a booming leg that can clear the bleachers. He is teaching himself to long snap and place hold. He has even worked out as an H-back. Yet it is at tight end where he appears to have the most NFL potential, and what will likely earn him the call at some point in the middle to later rounds.




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 4:48:59 PM)

Another guy goes from Pitt. Puzzling.




Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 5:15:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

Smith Marsette is a good player.



He played on both sides and special teams....

As a senior, Smith-Marsette had 38 receptions for 773 yards and 13 touchdowns on offense and 43 tackles, three interceptions and two fumble recoveries on defense and also scored three touchdowns as a return specialist.

I was mad we didn't draft Okla. St. WR but this guy will do just fine.


Pencil him in right now as our #3.




Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 5:34:41 PM)

I really like this year's haul. The 6th round DT doesn't move the needle and I'm a bit skeptical of The Chazz but I see a bunch of them sticking around. We're going to be solid this year all the way through our bottom end.

This draft only served as a rocket boost on towards the season


Let's go!




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 6:04:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I really like this year's haul. The 6th round DT doesn't move the needle and I'm a bit skeptical of The Chazz but I see a bunch of them sticking around. We're going to be solid this year all the way through our bottom end.

This draft only served as a rocket boost on towards the season


Let's go!

So long as Kirk Cousins represents the engine of said rocket, expect a crash landing in the ocean somewhere around November 1.




Karl Juhnke -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 6:05:44 PM)

I did not tune in at all on day 2 or 3 so I have no idea who was available when we drafted who so I don’t know how we did in that regard, but at a glance it seems like a good group of players.

A linebacker whose highlight clip on ESPN profile is all him playing QB. [&:] . Don’t get me wrong, I see this as a positive. I like unique guys who have all around athletic ability and aren’t necessarily a cookie cutter vision of their position. They can turn out to be great players sometimes.

The DE, I loved his speed off the snap. He starts so low and just explodes.

Iowa receiver looks great.




Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 6:13:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I really like this year's haul. The 6th round DT doesn't move the needle and I'm a bit skeptical of The Chazz but I see a bunch of them sticking around. We're going to be solid this year all the way through our bottom end.

This draft only served as a rocket boost on towards the season


Let's go!

So long as Kirk Cousins represents the engine of said rocket, expect a crash landing in the ocean somewhere around November 1.



He might not be in the running for league MVP but I expect 35+ TD's <10 INT's. Cook to get 2000 APY. The defense to hold teams and put points on the board. We're going to be the best team in the NFC




Tom Sykes -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (5/1/2021 6:19:05 PM)

Tom Pelissero
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Former East Carolina WR Blake Proehl -- the son of 17-year NFL veteran Ricky Proehl -- is signing with the #Vikings, per source.




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