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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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Fair assessment

Agree on not getting a couple more guards. Samia and Dozier dont belong on an nfl roster

The fact that we needed three new starters on the offensive front and only drafted two tells me Spielman doesn't entirely understand the needs of this team. That, or he sees Kellen Mond playing football earlier than expected.

You want Cleveland on the bench. Or Bradbury.

Cleveland

You give a guy 8 or so games and call him a bust.

At the very least, give him competition.

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Like Brad, I did a draft review and then I added the likelihood of them getting to the Hall of Fame in ().


Rd. 1 : Darrisaw (Lock)

A modern-day Ron Yary. But better.

HOF Chances: The starting LT for THE dynasty of the 2020s should be a HOF lock.


Rd. 3: Mond (Lock)

A 3rd Round superstar QB ala Russ Wilson, but eventually becomes a clone of Tom Brady if Brady was mobile and had a bigger arm.

HOF Chances: The QB that wins the most Super Bowls of all-time will be a first ballot HOF just missing an unanimous vote because the Green Bay beat writer voted for Jordan Love instead despite Jordan Love having never starting a game in his brief 4 year NFL career. "No, I am not bitter at all", he said bitterly.


Rd. 3: Surratt (50/50)

A Safety/LB hybrid. Joey Browner if Joey was taller, faster and smarter.

HOF Chances: How many Safety/ Linebacker hybrids are in the Hall? He may be the first.


Rd. 3: Davis (Near Lock)

A bigger Randall McDaniel.

HOF Chances: Makes it, but not on the first ballot. Being a Guard keeps him out a few years.


Rd. 3: Jones (Near Lock)

Went to same school as Chris Doleman and plays same position. Coincidence?

HOF Chances: Chris Doleman is in the Hall, so Jones is a near lock.


Rd. 4: Nwangnu (Outside Chance)

Devin Hester except bigger, taller and faster.

HOF Chances: Do you get into the Hall if you are the best special teamer of all-time? I guess we will find out.


Rd. 4: Bynum (Outside Chance)

A Safety that plays like Harrison Smith, but better in coverage and faster.

HOF Chances: May be hurt by how many of his contemporary Vikings will make the Hall.


Rd. 4: Robinson (Near lock)

Watching his highlights, he looks like Khalil Mack reincarnated. And Mack is not even dead.

HOF Chances: Being an elite DE on a dynasty means he almost certainly makes the Hall.


Rd. 5: Smith-Marsette (Outside Shot)

Another Diggs in the 5th Round. Except faster.

HOF Chances: Being the #2 receiver on a dynasty may get him in the Hall, but voters may hold it against him that he had the GOAT Mond throwing him the ball.


Rd. 5: Davidson (Lock)

The Vikings answer to Shohei Ohtani. All Pro Tight End AND All Pro Punter. In 50 years, people will still be talking about the game where he had to long-snap to himself. A cross between a durable Rob Gronkowski and Shane Lechler.

HOF Chances: Already makes the Grob long-snapper Hall of Fame. May not have made it as either a Tight End or Punter, but being elite at both? Lock.


Rd. 6: Twyman (Good Shot)

He has already been compared to Aaron Donald and Geno Atkins. Sounds about right.

HOF Chances: Is he more Donald or Atkins? Part of the revived PPE so that helps him het to the Hall either way.


OVERALL DRAFT GRADE: Almost certainly the greatest draft of all-time. 6-8 HOFers. SKOL

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ORIGINAL: unome

Like Brad, I did a draft review and then I added the likelihood of them getting to the Hall of Fame in ().


Rd. 1 : Darrisaw (Lock)

A modern-day Ron Yary. But better.

HOF Chances: The starting LT for THE dynasty of the 2020s should be a HOF lock.


Rd. 3: Mond (Lock)

A 3rd Round superstar QB ala Russ Wilson, but eventually becomes a clone of Tom Brady if Brady was mobile and had a bigger arm.

HOF Chances: The QB that wins the most Super Bowls of all-time will be a first ballot HOF just missing an unanimous vote because the Green Bay beat writer voted for Jordan Love instead despite Jordan Love having never starting a game in his brief 4 year NFL career. "No, I am not bitter at all", he said bitterly.


Rd. 3: Surratt (50/50)

A Safety/LB hybrid. Joey Browner if Joey was taller, faster and smarter.

HOF Chances: How many Safety/ Linebacker hybrids are in the Hall? He may be the first.


Rd. 3: Davis (Near Lock)

A bigger Randall McDaniel.

HOF Chances: Makes it, but not on the first ballot. Being a Guard keeps him out a few years.


Rd. 3: Jones (Near Lock)

Went to same school as Chris Doleman and plays same position. Coincidence?

HOF Chances: Chris Doleman is in the Hall, so Jones is a near lock.


Rd. 4: Nwangnu (Outside Chance)

Devin Hester except bigger, taller and faster.

HOF Chances: Do you get into the Hall if you are the best special teamer of all-time? I guess we will find out.


Rd. 4: Bynum (Outside Chance)

A Safety that plays like Harrison Smith, but better in coverage and faster.

HOF Chances: May be hurt by how many of his contemporary Vikings will make the Hall.


Rd. 4: Robinson (Near lock)

Watching his highlights, he looks like Khalil Mack reincarnated. And Mack is not even dead.

HOF Chances: Being an elite DE on a dynasty means he almost certainly makes the Hall.


Rd. 5: Smith-Marsette (Outside Shot)

Another Diggs in the 5th Round. Except faster.

HOF Chances: Being the #2 receiver on a dynasty may get him in the Hall, but voters may hold it against him that he had the GOAT Mond throwing him the ball.


Rd. 5: Davidson (Lock)

The Vikings answer to Shohei Ohtani. All Pro Tight End AND All Pro Punter. In 50 years, people will still be talking about the game where he had to long-snap to himself. A cross between a durable Rob Gronkowski and Shane Lechler.

HOF Chances: Already makes the Grob long-snapper Hall of Fame. May not have made it as either a Tight End or Punter, but being elite at both? Lock.


Rd. 6: Twyman (Good Shot)

He has already been compared to Aaron Donald and Geno Atkins. Sounds about right.

HOF Chances: Is he more Donald or Atkins? Part of the revived PPE so that helps him het to the Hall either way.


OVERALL DRAFT GRADE: Almost certainly the greatest draft of all-time. 6-8 HOFers. SKOL

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

Found this Unofficial on FanNation

The Vikings are putting together their undrafted free agent class after a strong draft.

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San Diego State LS Turner Bernard

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

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Going forward when looking into the draft im going to make sure to note who was a captain and who's noted for strong character.

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Going forward when looking into the draft im going to make sure to note who was a captain and who's noted for strong character.

Yep. They usually do but the Gladney deal put extra emphasis on character this year.

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

Found this Unofficial on FanNation

The Vikings are putting together their undrafted free agent class after a strong draft.

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San Diego State LS Turner Bernard

Controversial! I am sure I am not the only person fired up for the Andrew DePaola/Turner Bernard Longsnapper camp battle.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

The positives about the o-line is that if they all pan out, we have a very young offensive line with a lot of years ahead of them. The negatives are that we have little depth and very little experience. Who is the leader up front, O'Neill? Maybe Bradbury?

I'm hoping they all become great. I really am. I just wanted more out of the draft given we didn't address it in free agency and had one of the worst pass-blocking o-lines in the league a year ago. That's a lot of youth and a lot to expect right away.

Is Darrisaw instantly better than Reiff? I don't think so. He may end up being better in the long run, but the kid hasn't taken a snap yet nor seen his first big paycheck. At some point he'll see TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack this season. That's like a rookie pitcher facing the '27 Yankees. That will be where the rubber meets the road, and a ton to expect from a young kid.

Kirk Cousins better have his head on a swivel, and Kellen Mond better be ready to go if not.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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Going forward when looking into the draft im going to make sure to note who was a captain and who's noted for strong character.

Yep. They usually do but the Gladney deal put extra emphasis on character this year.

Winning is the great elixir. Win games and very few care about character. Start losing and suddenly people are offended. It's the NFL, where most fans have tunnel vision.

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Tomlinson will be our leader. Him and Pearce are going to dominate the middle so much, Hunter, Kendricks, Barr, and Smith are going to be constantly shifting the field with timely pressure.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

The positives about the o-line is that if they all pan out, we have a very young offensive line with a lot of years ahead of them. The negatives are that we have little depth and very little experience. Who is the leader up front, O'Neill? Maybe Bradbury?

I'm hoping they all become great. I really am. I just wanted more out of the draft given we didn't address it in free agency and had one of the worst pass-blocking o-lines in the league a year ago. That's a lot of youth and a lot to expect right away.

Is Darrisaw instantly better than Reiff? I don't think so. He may end up being better in the long run, but the kid hasn't taken a snap yet nor seen his first big paycheck. At some point he'll see TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack this season. That's like a rookie pitcher facing the '27 Yankees. That will be where the rubber meets the road, and a ton to expect from a young kid.

Kirk Cousins better have his head on a swivel, and Kellen Mond better be ready to go if not.

Nothing is ever perfect but we have drafted two of the top positions of need. Reiffs money was needed to upgrade the defense. I am not going to be a town cryer when they rebuilt the online. They have depth and UDFA to sign and late cuts to look at. Few needs left to fill.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

The positives about the o-line is that if they all pan out, we have a very young offensive line with a lot of years ahead of them. The negatives are that we have little depth and very little experience. Who is the leader up front, O'Neill? Maybe Bradbury?

I'm hoping they all become great. I really am. I just wanted more out of the draft given we didn't address it in free agency and had one of the worst pass-blocking o-lines in the league a year ago. That's a lot of youth and a lot to expect right away.

Is Darrisaw instantly better than Reiff? I don't think so. He may end up being better in the long run, but the kid hasn't taken a snap yet nor seen his first big paycheck. At some point he'll see TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack this season. That's like a rookie pitcher facing the '27 Yankees. That will be where the rubber meets the road, and a ton to expect from a young kid.

Kirk Cousins better have his head on a swivel, and Kellen Mond better be ready to go if not.

Nothing is ever perfect but we have drafted two of the top positions of need. Reiffs money was needed to upgrade the defense. I am not going to be a town cryer when they rebuilt the online. They have depth and UDFA to sign and late cuts to look at. Few needs left to fill.

That all sounds well and good, but facing DE's in the ACC is much different than facing TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack (twice) all in the same season.

I'm hopeful, but not making any plans for a celebration in February. The defense should be better. No doubt about that. Couldn't be much worse.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

The positives about the o-line is that if they all pan out, we have a very young offensive line with a lot of years ahead of them. The negatives are that we have little depth and very little experience. Who is the leader up front, O'Neill? Maybe Bradbury?

I'm hoping they all become great. I really am. I just wanted more out of the draft given we didn't address it in free agency and had one of the worst pass-blocking o-lines in the league a year ago. That's a lot of youth and a lot to expect right away.

Is Darrisaw instantly better than Reiff? I don't think so. He may end up being better in the long run, but the kid hasn't taken a snap yet nor seen his first big paycheck. At some point he'll see TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack this season. That's like a rookie pitcher facing the '27 Yankees. That will be where the rubber meets the road, and a ton to expect from a young kid.

Kirk Cousins better have his head on a swivel, and Kellen Mond better be ready to go if not.

Nothing is ever perfect but we have drafted two of the top positions of need. Reiffs money was needed to upgrade the defense. I am not going to be a town cryer when they rebuilt the online. They have depth and UDFA to sign and late cuts to look at. Few needs left to fill.

That all sounds well and good, but facing DE's in the ACC is much different than facing TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack (twice) all in the same season.

I'm hopeful, but not making any plans for a celebration in February. The defense should be better. No doubt about that. Couldn't be much worse.

You are already on repeat mode, but repeating the obvious. In fact, the challenges for rookies have been known since the early-mid 1900s. Congrats on being 75+ years late to the party.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

The positives about the o-line is that if they all pan out, we have a very young offensive line with a lot of years ahead of them. The negatives are that we have little depth and very little experience. Who is the leader up front, O'Neill? Maybe Bradbury?

I'm hoping they all become great. I really am. I just wanted more out of the draft given we didn't address it in free agency and had one of the worst pass-blocking o-lines in the league a year ago. That's a lot of youth and a lot to expect right away.

Is Darrisaw instantly better than Reiff? I don't think so. He may end up being better in the long run, but the kid hasn't taken a snap yet nor seen his first big paycheck. At some point he'll see TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack this season. That's like a rookie pitcher facing the '27 Yankees. That will be where the rubber meets the road, and a ton to expect from a young kid.

Kirk Cousins better have his head on a swivel, and Kellen Mond better be ready to go if not.

Nothing is ever perfect but we have drafted two of the top positions of need. Reiffs money was needed to upgrade the defense. I am not going to be a town cryer when they rebuilt the online. They have depth and UDFA to sign and late cuts to look at. Few needs left to fill.

That all sounds well and good, but facing DE's in the ACC is much different than facing TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack (twice) all in the same season.

I'm hopeful, but not making any plans for a celebration in February. The defense should be better. No doubt about that. Couldn't be much worse.

You are already on repeat mode, but repeating the obvious. In fact, the challenges for rookies have been known since the early-mid 1900s. Congrats on being 75+ years late to the party.

Just trying to add a dose of reality to the rose-colored crowd. Pretty much the exact same conversation we had 12 months ago. After the draft I said pump the brakes. Someone called me out for being Captain Obvious. 12 months later here we sit, with most suffering from the usual off-season amnesia.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am not going to complain about Oline when we spent a 1st and a 3rd.

I like that they went after coverage/ST/Speed guys in the 4th- 6th rounds of the draft...that is a weakness.

The positives about the o-line is that if they all pan out, we have a very young offensive line with a lot of years ahead of them. The negatives are that we have little depth and very little experience. Who is the leader up front, O'Neill? Maybe Bradbury?

I'm hoping they all become great. I really am. I just wanted more out of the draft given we didn't address it in free agency and had one of the worst pass-blocking o-lines in the league a year ago. That's a lot of youth and a lot to expect right away.

Is Darrisaw instantly better than Reiff? I don't think so. He may end up being better in the long run, but the kid hasn't taken a snap yet nor seen his first big paycheck. At some point he'll see TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack this season. That's like a rookie pitcher facing the '27 Yankees. That will be where the rubber meets the road, and a ton to expect from a young kid.

Kirk Cousins better have his head on a swivel, and Kellen Mond better be ready to go if not.

Nothing is ever perfect but we have drafted two of the top positions of need. Reiffs money was needed to upgrade the defense. I am not going to be a town cryer when they rebuilt the online. They have depth and UDFA to sign and late cuts to look at. Few needs left to fill.

That all sounds well and good, but facing DE's in the ACC is much different than facing TJ Watt, Aaron Donald, Myles Garrett, Joey Bosa, Nick Bosa, JJ Watt and Khalil Mack (twice) all in the same season.

I'm hopeful, but not making any plans for a celebration in February. The defense should be better. No doubt about that. Couldn't be much worse.

You are already on repeat mode, but repeating the obvious. In fact, the challenges for rookies have been known since the early-mid 1900s. Congrats on being 75+ years late to the party.

Just trying to add a dose of reality to the rose-colored crowd. Pretty much the exact same conversation we had 12 months ago. After the draft I said pump the brakes. Someone called me out for being Captain Obvious. 12 months later here we sit, with most suffering from the usual off-season amnesia.

OK, so there are the two extremes. Some being fans hoping the draft is a knockout and cheering early for a SB. It's more about being a fan than really believing this draft will propel us to a SB victory.

Then there are others like you who take the very safe route saying many of the draftees are not all that, and harp endlessly about "I told you so." That is the Master of the Obvious approach.