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Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 3:40:28 PM)
Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 3:42:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... Its weird we're talking about 3 Vikings? Two of which were just the subject of a story yesterday about not being vaccinated?

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 3:46:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... Its weird we're talking about 3 Vikings? Two of which were just the subject of a story yesterday about not being vaccinated? Again...my preference was to get vaccinated...I don't think it is much of story when 50% aren't vaccinated yet. Run with whatever you want. I also don't gawk, nod, kick, or throw stones at anyone that hasn't received the vaccination yet at my workplace. Still their right.

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 3:49:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... Its weird we're talking about 3 Vikings? Two of which were just the subject of a story yesterday about not being vaccinated? Plus, there's a lot of overlap between religion, politics, and vaccination, which is actually much, much weirder than citing three players who have questions around vaccine status at this point in time/the news cycle.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 3:52:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... Its weird we're talking about 3 Vikings? Two of which were just the subject of a story yesterday about not being vaccinated? Again...my preference was to get vaccinated...I don't think it is much of story when 50% aren't vaccinated yet. Run with whatever you want. I also don't gawk, nod, kick, or throw stones at anyone that hasn't received the vaccination yet at my workplace. Still their right. Yes, continue to move the goalposts. What is weird about this discussion? Just today the biggest NFL news is the loosening of COVID restrictions for vaccinated players and how it will affect unvaccinated players. Yesterday Smith and Thielen offered up the fact they aren't vaccinated. Cousins was introduced into the discussion because he's been the most outspoken member of the team when it comes to being anti-mask and anti-vax. Should we ignore the current news and talk more about Hunter's contract?

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:03:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance. Getting the vaccine either way is someone's right. Especially since it isn't FDA approved. I took the vaccine--doesn't mean I have the right to condemn someone that hasn't. Thinking that is what Tom meant with the joke...... FDA granted emergency approval and the final approval application is submitted and will be approved any day. 2 of the 3 HPV vaccines are mRNA and have FDA approval. DNA vaccines have been used since 1998 or so. As to someone's right. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this subject and when it comes public health issues the government does have the right. It's why other vaccines have been mandated. And quarantines. Etc. This is already been retried in Texas where a Healthcare system is being sued by a few hold out employees. First ruling by a federal judge (it's not against Texas law so it had to be moved to federal) is that it is constitutional.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:06:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance. Thanks for seeing through the deeply philosophical underpinnings and noticing the shallow 'attempt at humor'. Which it was.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:13:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance. Getting the vaccine either way is someone's right. Especially since it isn't FDA approved. I took the vaccine--doesn't mean I have the right to condemn someone that hasn't. Thinking that is what Tom meant with the joke...... FDA granted emergency approval and the final approval application is submitted and will be approved any day. 2 of the 3 HPV vaccines are mRNA and have FDA approval. DNA vaccines have been used since 1998 or so. As to someone's right. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this subject and when it comes public health issues the government does have the right. It's why other vaccines have been mandated. And quarantines. Etc. This is already been retried in Texas where a Healthcare system is being sued by a few hold out employees. First ruling by a federal judge (it's not against Texas law so it had to be moved to federal) is that it is constitutional. Quarantine and mask mandates are one thing...forcing vaccinations...we will see. Do you get a flu shot every year? I do but I choose to.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:18:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... Its weird we're talking about 3 Vikings? Two of which were just the subject of a story yesterday about not being vaccinated? Again...my preference was to get vaccinated...I don't think it is much of story when 50% aren't vaccinated yet. Run with whatever you want. I also don't gawk, nod, kick, or throw stones at anyone that hasn't received the vaccination yet at my workplace. Still their right. Yes, continue to move the goalposts. What is weird about this discussion? Just today the biggest NFL news is the loosening of COVID restrictions for vaccinated players and how it will affect unvaccinated players. Yesterday Smith and Thielen offered up the fact they aren't vaccinated. Cousins was introduced into the discussion because he's been the most outspoken member of the team when it comes to being anti-mask and anti-vax. Should we ignore the current news and talk more about Hunter's contract? Do whatever you want...only your opinion matters....everyone else is moving goalposts.

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:20:29 PM)
There's pinning someone down and stabbing with a vaccine, and then there's denying people access to things like certain employment opportunities, recreational activities, education, etc, if they refuse to get vaccinated. You don't have to get vaccinated, but you might not be able to fly on common carriers, etc. That is not only legal, it's fair and ethical.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:21:10 PM)
But it's just so weird we're talking about Vikings in current news stories!

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:24:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm There's pinning someone down and stabbing with a vaccine, and then there's denying people access to things like certain employment opportunities, recreational activities, education, etc, if they refuse to get vaccinated. You don't have to get vaccinated, but you might not be able to fly on common carriers, etc. That is not only legal, it's fair and ethical. Absolutely. Just like I have zero problem with how the NFL is handling it. No, they can't force players to get vaccinated, but they can make them get tested every damn day and severely limit their access. Its a lot like what is happening here in Vegas. If you're a dealer in a casino (or a stripper, for that matter), and you don't get vaccinated, you have to be tested every day that you work AND its on your dime. For every single test.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:25:19 PM)
“Each person can make their own choice” = I feel like I personally know better than the collective knowledge and insight of the worldwide scientific community which is made up of the smartest people on earth AND I don’t want to take any shit for it. Bunch of god damned morons those three are.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:37:29 PM)
You know what else is a personal choice? Spending more time in the film room, taking extra reps after practice, mentoring young players. Why not quit all that as well as long as you’re willing to jeopardize the competitive edge of the team. It’s a personal choice to stay in shape too right?

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:37:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty Anyone here know, has Tom Brady been vaccinated ? Oh good god ... inevitable ... So far during the pandemic, Brady has only started for the grocery store four times before having to return to his car for his mask. Cousins has forgotten his mask in the car sixteen times during the pandemic. One of those times he tried to enter the store using a 'prayer shield' (a combination of prayer and shaking a box of Hot Tamales) but was asked to leave. https://www.nfl.com/news/half-of-nfl-teams-have-51-or-more-players-vaccinated-for-covid-19 Weird we are picking on these three. Almost like some have a problem with a religious QB? Religious WR or Safety? Lets give it a break.... I don't think Tom has a problem with religion. I know I don't. Humor nothing more. Plus he was responding to Marty's eventual inevitable leadership comparison between Cousins and Brady based on vaccine compliance. Getting the vaccine either way is someone's right. Especially since it isn't FDA approved. I took the vaccine--doesn't mean I have the right to condemn someone that hasn't. Thinking that is what Tom meant with the joke...... FDA granted emergency approval and the final approval application is submitted and will be approved any day. 2 of the 3 HPV vaccines are mRNA and have FDA approval. DNA vaccines have been used since 1998 or so. As to someone's right. The Supreme Court has already ruled on this subject and when it comes public health issues the government does have the right. It's why other vaccines have been mandated. And quarantines. Etc. This is already been retried in Texas where a Healthcare system is being sued by a few hold out employees. First ruling by a federal judge (it's not against Texas law so it had to be moved to federal) is that it is constitutional. Quarantine and mask mandates are one thing...forcing vaccinations...we will see. Do you get a flu shot every year? I do but I choose to. I do have to get a flu shot every year. I have a sticker that I have to put on my hospital badge that states I have had the flu shot. Did you have to get shots before going to school? Think covid is the first vaccine that has been mandatory (I hope we don't get to that point)? Flu shots are mandatory by almost every healthcare org with exceptions. Those exempted still have to take extraordinary precautions. Public health vs individual choice/freedom/right. Supreme Court has already ruled on it.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:38:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm There's pinning someone down and stabbing with a vaccine, and then there's denying people access to things like certain employment opportunities, recreational activities, education, etc, if they refuse to get vaccinated. You don't have to get vaccinated, but you might not be able to fly on common carriers, etc. That is not only legal, it's fair and ethical. Agreed.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:42:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. “Each person can make their own choice” = I feel like I personally know better than the collective knowledge and insight of the worldwide scientific community which is made up of the smartest people on earth AND I don’t want to take any shit for it. Bunch of god damned morons those three are. Dunning-Kruger

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:56:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm There's pinning someone down and stabbing with a vaccine, and then there's denying people access to things like certain employment opportunities, recreational activities, education, etc, if they refuse to get vaccinated. You don't have to get vaccinated, but you might not be able to fly on common carriers, etc. That is not only legal, it's fair and ethical. Agreed. 100%

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 4:59:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm There's pinning someone down and stabbing with a vaccine, and then there's denying people access to things like certain employment opportunities, recreational activities, education, etc, if they refuse to get vaccinated. You don't have to get vaccinated, but you might not be able to fly on common carriers, etc. That is not only legal, it's fair and ethical. Absolutely. Just like I have zero problem with how the NFL is handling it. No, they can't force players to get vaccinated, but they can make them get tested every damn day and severely limit their access. Its a lot like what is happening here in Vegas. If you're a dealer in a casino (or a stripper, for that matter), you have to be tested every day that you work AND its on your dime. For every single test. I'm vaccinated and I still have to get tested weekly (I work a second job in a clinical setting). Sometimes, you have to go through stuff to get what you want, or even need. In my case, that's a weekly frontal cortex probe.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 5:02:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Just remember when you specifically pick out 3 players out of over average 40 that don't have the vaccine from each team it looks like you are only attacking the religious on the team, instead of the unvaccinated on the team....that is what I am spelling and pointing out. You do realize Phil That its just a matter of time before a new COVID variant produces an outbreak of non-vaccinated religious QB zombies. Thanks for defending personal choice over the well-being of our species. Good going.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 5:11:50 PM)
If we can't come together on this we're ****ed I think. The devisive nature of rights based on beliefs. If there's blow back to the most important aspect, getting on top of this through herd immunity, there's going to be blow back to - you can't come to this meeting, go to this place, do this or that.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 5:32:14 PM)
I'm having a hard time working out my feelings. If the player performs does it matter that you don't like the man? I think some are just asking for religious tolerance to a dangerous degree now.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 5:47:18 PM)
All the time and money spent on charges, guns, and bombs, if we invested that into science and humanity, life would be amazing.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 5:51:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M I'm having a hard time working out my feelings. If the player performs does it matter that you don't like the man? I think some are just asking for religious tolerance to a dangerous degree now. I'd prefer to like the player as a human, but its not mandatory. That said there is a wide chasm between how I feel about someone that has very different faith views and someone who is a child/spouse abuser, for example. I do have issues if a choice a player makes puts the team's season in jeopardy.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/16/2021 5:53:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: kgdabom quote: ORIGINAL: twinsfan Well I sure hope Adam Thielen and Harrison Smith are prepared to wear masks all season. Idiots. Has the vaccine been made available to all Americans yet? They're young and healthy. They are probably on the bottom of the priority list for the vaccine. How could someone living in America not know this? Don't forget: "Then the is it 2 weeks for full efficacy?"

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