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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

KG cant dissect the frog, theres no zipper.

Phil wants to, its the key ingredient in his turtle soup.

Mark doesnt want to. With the right therapeutics, dead frogs can become chupacabras, according to some doctors posting online. He doesn’t want to take that chance.

Dammit Bill! Bill has eviscerated that poor frog and the parts are beyond all recognition. He doesnt care, it will never make another dumbass comment again.

Obviously, Tom could dissect that frog with surgical precision but he chooses HBO Max for his entertainment.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson
Just treatment by medicines we already have.

Are you talking treatments to prevent COVID or treatments after the fact?

How to research: find credible sources, ingest information, analyze and assess, assess and analyze.

From Merriam-Webster:ther·​a·​peu·​tic | \ ˌther-ə-ˈpyü-tik \
Definition of therapeutic
1: of or relating to the treatment of disease or disorders by remedial agents or methods : CURATIVE, MEDICINAL

Definition of vaccine1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease

I do not understand, nor have I ever understood, what odd compulsion causes you to seek to control discussions by being alternately intentionally obtuse, stubbornly dug into a POV, a bleating martyr, or a righteous crusader. Whatever it is, I mostly ignore it until, through my own odd compulsion, I unload on the idiocy of the entire phenomenon. It doesn't take an expert logician (oops, there I go again) to see what is happening and why, and yet you claim to not understand. It's simply odd and irritating until you step into society-altering areas like this one, and then it becomes a dangerous embodiment of what ails and imperils us.

So you have been fed a little more attention, which must feel good, and now you can do your thing.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen
"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

Exactly why people aren't getting the vaccine.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson
Just treatment by medicines we already have.

Are you talking treatments to prevent COVID or treatments after the fact?

How to research: find credible sources, ingest information, analyze and assess, assess and analyze.

From Merriam-Webster:ther·​a·​peu·​tic | \ ˌther-ə-ˈpyü-tik \
Definition of therapeutic
1: of or relating to the treatment of disease or disorders by remedial agents or methods : CURATIVE, MEDICINAL

Definition of vaccine1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease

I do not understand, nor have I ever understood, what odd compulsion causes you to seek to control discussions by being alternately intentionally obtuse, stubbornly dug into a POV, a bleating martyr, or a righteous crusader. Whatever it is, I mostly ignore it until, through my own odd compulsion, I unload on the idiocy of the entire phenomenon. It doesn't take an expert logician (oops, there I go again) to see what is happening and why, and yet you claim to not understand. It's simply odd and irritating until you step into society-altering areas like this one, and then it becomes a dangerous embodiment of what ails and imperils us.

So you have been fed a little more attention, which must feel good, and now you can do your thing.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

For real. He actually based his 60-70% shot on a few hours of being sick in line with standard side effects. Another mensa mind at work.

Hell, I was sick for over 24 hours but would do it again no doubt.

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

For real. He actually based his 60-70% shot on a few hours of being sick in line with standard side effects. Another mensa mind at work.

Hell, I was sick for over 24 hours but would do it again no doubt.

You didn't read the whole post did you? I said I would get it again also.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

He lacks the self-awareness of an internet bot...

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

He lacks the self-awareness of an internet bot...

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

He lacks the self-awareness of an internet bot...

I suppose we could have him look for pictures of bridges or traffic signs.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

For real. He actually based his 60-70% shot on a few hours of being sick in line with standard side effects. Another mensa mind at work.

Hell, I was sick for over 24 hours but would do it again no doubt.

You didn't read the whole post did you? I said I would get it again also.

Just don't let your "confidence level" drop too far!

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

Paulgly. What has given you any indication that I'm a bot? If your question is actually honest the answer is I'm a real person. I don't believe it was an honest question.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

"Especially since it isn't FDA approved."

This is why we fail as a society and experienced 600,000 COVID deaths plus other ramifications already posted.

So what were people suppose to do before the Vaccine; maybe take an FDA approved drug? I thought science is important to you? You really should have pre and post vaccine numbers....(If you are going to blame the non vaccinated group for the pre vaccine deaths).......

I'm not, and the numbers were an illustration. The point is people of your ilk or persuasion have fought this all along with the "Give Me Liberty and Give Me Death" mantra. Idiots like Bruce Johnson saying masks do not work missing entirely that they can at least help. And even now you discredit the vaccine with misleading statements like "Especially since it isn't FDA approved." Much of society choosing to follow their leaders failed and inept policy combined conveniently with pure selfishness led to many unnecessary deaths. And while I consider you more moderate in the sense that you have masked, vaccinated, etc, a large segment of society is giving the middle finger to its health.

This one kills me. The people who invoke the founding fathers as they defy mask mandates and refuse vaccinations. One person even told me that the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they saw the way our rights were trampled with covid restrictions. My answer was that the founding fathers would come out of those graves and kick you in the nuts for making such a stupid statement.

My ilk has wore a mask for over 14 months; stayed home; maintained social distance....some god posters don't realize that just because I got the vaccine I had my doubts especially after the 4-6 hours of sickness after the 2nd shot and the day of sickness my fiance had but those god posters know what everyone should do and think. That is where I am confidence wise...I was about 90% confident when I got my first shot; 95% right after the 2nd and 60-70% 6 hours laters after I was sick that I did the right thing.

Would I do it again; of course.

Don't put a half ass stamp approval on a vaccine and tell me something doesn't stink.....I had the vaccine and was sick for up to 8 hours and my fiance for almost a full day; I can't tell you to get vaccinated because of it.

Yes, because 8 hours of feeling crappy equates to getting full blown covid-19. There is nothing half assed about the vaccines. Over a billion people have gotten them. There is a ton of data, including the initial side effects.

For real. He actually based his 60-70% shot on a few hours of being sick in line with standard side effects. Another mensa mind at work.

Hell, I was sick for over 24 hours but would do it again no doubt.

You didn't read the whole post did you? I said I would get it again also.

Just don't let your "confidence level" drop too far!

Don't let your god complex level drop either...

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

LOST: Vikings thread

It has been missing for a couple days.

It is quite dysfunctional and loaded with people with differing points of view. but it was supposed to be focused on the Vikings.

It was believed to be hijacked by a Vaccine debate and degraded into personal insultitude.

If you have seen it, please call 800-vikings.


Thank you.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

LOST: Vikings thread

It has been missing for a couple days.

It is quite dysfunctional and loaded with people with differing points of view. but it was supposed to be focused on the Vikings.

It was believed to be hijacked by a Vaccine debate and degraded into personal insultitude.

If you have seen it, please call 800-vikings.


Thank you.

it's totally phucked up in here....

HEY EVERYONE! - if it's not vikings, do it somewhere else!....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Yeah it went askew a while back with COVID, just consider this the second wave.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

Honest question - is KG a real person or some sort of internet bot?

Paulgly. What has given you any indication that I'm a bot? If your question is actually honest the answer is I'm a real person. I don't believe it was an honest question.

Oh it really was an honest question. I've been on several different message boards and I'll just say your posting style is...ummm....the most unique I've ever seen. So it was hard for me to believe that they are from an actual person.

Do you really think that MULTIPLE people are basically telling you the same thing about your posts and it's all THEIR problem? I will let you have the last word (and judging by pretty much every thread you are a part of, you will) and not respond further. I have plenty of other nonproductive things to do today...