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joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 7:57:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Sorry… but I’m just sick of the “special mentality “ of the entitled doinks who seem to think their personal freedoms Outweigh the common good..

Lambda variant is already ripping through South America..

Petrie Dish mouth breathers are not helping get this crap under control.

I don’t want myself or anyone else to be harmed by the idiocy of the brain dead.


I'll give you that. But, people with Down Syndrome, Cerebral Palsy, Intellectual Disability, or Traumatic brain injury have nothing to do with what you are talking about. Just take the R word out of your vocabulary and we'll be good.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 8:05:12 PM)

Those individuals do not suffer from the kind of “R” word I’m pissed about…

Antivaxxers and “ my rights” people are literally suffering from a mental handicap of their own making…

The ones you chastise me about, not at all..

I understand that it is an offensive stereotype, from the dark ages, but IMO the people I apply it to.. deserve it.

I knew as soon as I typed it[;)] because this is not the first time you have gotten on someone for that expression, and I apologize..

But damn it…[X(]




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 8:08:23 PM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.


No….[&o]

It’s not Worthless…

You are 80+ % protected, but can get a breakthrough infection, or be a carrier if exposed to the delta variant..

You will have a way smaller reaction to the delta if vaccinated, as opposed to putting death and organ damage back on the table if you are unvaccinated…

It’s the failure to educate oneself on what the delta variant of the virus can and will do, not only to yourself, but to innocent, even fully vaccinated people, that is so frustrating.

It’s more contagious than chicken pox, and damages every major organ system in your body..

It can cripple you for life, kill unvaccinated people, and is especially dangerous for children, who CANNOT be vaccinated, at this time because they are still in trial phase for children under 12 years of age..

To me, that kind of irresponsible behavior is founded in sheer stupidity.

Thanks Dan.




joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 8:08:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Those individuals do not suffer from the kind of “R” word I’m pissed about…

Antivaxxers and “ my rights” people are literally suffering from a mental handicap of their own making…

The ones you chastise me about, not at all..

I understand that it is an offensive stereotype, from the dark ages, but IMO the people I apply it to.. deserve it.

I knew as soon as I typed it[;)] because this is not the first time you have gotten on someone for that expression, and I apologize..

But damn it…[X(]

I get it, Dan. Apology accepted, my friend.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 8:32:39 PM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.


No….[&o]

It’s not Worthless…

You are 80+ % protected, but can get a breakthrough infection, or be a carrier if exposed to the delta variant..

You will have a way smaller reaction to the delta if vaccinated, as opposed to putting death and organ damage back on the table if you are unvaccinated…

It’s the failure to educate oneself on what the delta variant of the virus can and will do, not only to yourself, but to innocent, even fully vaccinated people, that is so frustrating.

It’s more contagious than chicken pox, and damages every major organ system in your body..

It can cripple you for life, kill unvaccinated people, and is especially dangerous for children, who CANNOT be vaccinated, at this time because they are still in trial phase for children under 12 years of age..

To me, that kind of irresponsible behavior is founded in sheer stupidity.


Speaking of being uneducated about it and stupid in general, look no further than KGBum's question.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 8:40:14 PM)

If you don’t ask..

You live with holes in your knowledge..

I’m retired..

I enjoy it..

I don’t want to have it ruined by getting the “ new Spanish flu” , by not understanding the danger, and what my personal responsibility is, to protect my family, and others.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 8:41:51 PM)

Someone I know was telling me about his doctor or a doctor he knows (?). Doc said he and all the docs he knows have had it with the unvaccinated. They come in sick after testing positive for COVID looking for magic treatment. Docs say nope, no magic and send them home saying if things are worse then contact the doc for a prescription to some drug. The lung technicians swear out loud at the imbeciles. ICU is 85% capacity... all the beds are taken by the unvaccinated except one by a 90 year old who was.

So good on the docs!




Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 10:01:01 PM)

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Yea.. I’m looking at you, ya morons on the Viking.. notably, Cousins, who must be a retard, and Harrison Smith, who should know better and be a leader of the defense, and AT, who should be smarter than this attitude…

The drooling idiot talk about “ it’s my choice”.. is idiotic.

“Government” and health concerns require many, many many different ‘infringements’ on your personal rights in the name and for the sake of greater public safety and health..

This is no different.

Quit being an asshat, and go get vaccinated.


Dude, do you really have to say "retard"? C'mon, Dan. Some of us have "retards" as kids, friends, and relatives. Ease up on that, my friend.

I'm behind ya on that one, Joe. Thanks for speaking up. Dan, giving us all lessons in life on how we can be better people with regards to getting vaccinated, can learn something tonight as well.

Best job I ever had was working with kids that have Downs Syndrome, Autism, or just MR - an IQ two standard deviations below the mean.

[damn, I didn't realize I was so far behind. I thought this was the last post]




Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 10:16:23 PM)

Looks like we will be catching Joe Burrow at the right time.

WR Tyler Boyd says he is still a little "iffy" on his knee. Mentally he has to be a little shaky at the start of the season.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 10:22:16 PM)

The anti-vaxer bias in here is way over the top. Really.

People need to understand just how tough this decision is ...

On one hand, you have that whole screwball group known as the global medical establishment saying the one thing

versus some feisty political leaders protecting our freedom to choose complete selfishness over death to others.

And then there's the whole vaccine Owie! issue ...




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 10:47:02 PM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.

If by worthless, you mean it will keep you from getting really sick and dying, then yes.




kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/4/2021 11:52:07 PM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.

If by worthless, you mean it will keep you from getting really sick and dying, then yes.
If the bolded above that you told me is 100% accurate then it may not be completely worthless, but it will be kind of worthless if I'm still going to pass it on to 9 or 10 people possibly killing them. It might be better if it just kills me quick preventing me from passing it on to so many others. My life isn't that important. Or am I doomed to pass it on to 9 or 10 people either way?




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 7:53:15 AM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.

If by worthless, you mean it will keep you from getting really sick and dying, then yes.
If the bolded above that you told me is 100% accurate then it may not be completely worthless, but it will be kind of worthless if I'm still going to pass it on to 9 or 10 people possibly killing them. It might be better if it just kills me quick preventing me from passing it on to so many others. My life isn't that important. Or am I doomed to pass it on to 9 or 10 people either way?

You've followed this through to its logical climax.




shakeywalton -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 10:05:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

The anti-vaxer bias in here is way over the top. Really.

People need to understand just how tough this decision is ...

On one hand, you have that whole screwball group known as the global medical establishment saying the one thing

versus some feisty political leaders protecting our freedom to choose complete selfishness over death to others.

And then there's the whole vaccine Owie! issue ...


Please explain the difficulties here? I really don't get it.




fmaltes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 10:10:53 AM)

Also, these are the negative effects of Covid that we know about. There are likely to be even more negative consequences in the long term that we still have not discovered. I don't see any justifiable reason for not getting vaccinated except for some very narrow potentially medical exceptions.




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 10:14:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

The anti-vaxer bias in here is way over the top. Really.

People need to understand just how tough this decision is ...

On one hand, you have that whole screwball group known as the global medical establishment saying the one thing

versus some feisty political leaders protecting our freedom to choose complete selfishness over death to others.

And then there's the whole vaccine Owie! issue ...


Please explain the difficulties here? I really don't get it.

I believe Tom was being sarcastic.




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 10:16:57 AM)

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Also, these are the negative effects of Covid that we know about. There are likely to be even more negative consequences in the long term that we still have not discovered. I don't see any justifiable reason for not getting vaccinated except for some very narrow potentially medical exceptions.

Studies are just scratching the surface on the long term affects of surviving covid. Turns out that little spiked protein does an enormous amount of damage while it's in the human body.




Lynn G. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 10:21:01 AM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.

If by worthless, you mean it will keep you from getting really sick and dying, then yes.
If the bolded above that you told me is 100% accurate then it may not be completely worthless, but it will be kind of worthless if I'm still going to pass it on to 9 or 10 people possibly killing them. It might be better if it just kills me quick preventing me from passing it on to so many others. My life isn't that important. Or am I doomed to pass it on to 9 or 10 people either way?

You've followed this through to its logical climax.


If "logical climax" means total idiocy.

Bottom line. Get vaccinated. Full stop. It's the ONLY thing that makes sense.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 10:49:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

The anti-vaxer bias in here is way over the top. Really.

People need to understand just how tough this decision is ...

On one hand, you have that whole screwball group known as the global medical establishment saying the one thing

versus some feisty political leaders protecting our freedom to choose complete selfishness over death to others.

And then there's the whole vaccine Owie! issue ...


Please explain the difficulties here? I really don't get it.


Did you stop reading at the part you bolded?




DavidAOlson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 11:03:51 AM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.

If by worthless, you mean it will keep you from getting really sick and dying, then yes.
If the bolded above that you told me is 100% accurate then it may not be completely worthless, but it will be kind of worthless if I'm still going to pass it on to 9 or 10 people possibly killing them. It might be better if it just kills me quick preventing me from passing it on to so many others. My life isn't that important. Or am I doomed to pass it on to 9 or 10 people either way?


Unvaccinated, the average person infects 5-8 people. That's what R=5 to R=8 means (reproductive number).

For Delta strain ONLY, early reports suggested that vaccinated people had similar viral loads, which suggested that they might transmit the virus at a similar rate, however, even those reports had the virus clearing faster. And the study had some other issues, like a cutoff for people with low viral counts, which sort of guarantees that the viral counts will be similar, and it wasn't randomized. But a big study just came out of England in the last couple days, randomized, and showed vaccinated people had markedly lower viral counts. Core take away:

Vaccination almost certainly cuts the chances you spread the Delta strain.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 11:08:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

The anti-vaxer bias in here is way over the top. Really.

People need to understand just how tough this decision is ...

On one hand, you have that whole screwball group known as the global medical establishment saying the one thing

versus some feisty political leaders protecting our freedom to choose complete selfishness over death to others.

And then there's the whole vaccine Owie! issue ...


Please explain the difficulties here? I really don't get it.

I believe Tom was being a sarcastic jerk.

Thanks for understating the obvious.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 11:18:07 AM)

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No way the Vikings can win or get through a season with Kirk Cousins-Adam Thielen Harrison Smith and others un-vaccinated.😷How does and NFL team allow players and coaches to dictate.Who’s the boss? - Larry Fitzgerald Sr.

The Vikings got through last season with none of them vaccinated. Seems like a good chance they can manage this season with none of them vaccinated.


There was no Delta variant last year. Mond just got Covid. No way they make it this year unless they get 90%+ of the team vaccinated, especially the starters.

I'm vaccinated. Will that protect me from the Delta variant?


It will protect you from getting killed by it. But you will pass it to 9 or 10 people, and of those 9 or 10, it will kill those who are not vaccinated.

So the vaccination for COVID is close to worthless for the Delta Variant. Ouch.

If by worthless, you mean it will keep you from getting really sick and dying, then yes.
If the bolded above that you told me is 100% accurate then it may not be completely worthless, but it will be kind of worthless if I'm still going to pass it on to 9 or 10 people possibly killing them. It might be better if it just kills me quick preventing me from passing it on to so many others. My life isn't that important. Or am I doomed to pass it on to 9 or 10 people either way?

Its like you pulled back your skirt and stuck out your leg ... just begging Johanesen to notice [comment].

Sorry to get off topic but:

The @Vikings have waived QB Case Cookus ... #Vikings activate QBs Kirk Cousins, Nate Stanley off COVID-19 reserve list ... expected to practice today.

Really thought Stanley was an instant goner with stud Browning now a lock to start.




Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 12:01:29 PM)

I would of bet some good money Stanely was a goner, too. He ain't made it yet but he's back on the team where I didn't think he'd ever be, again




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 12:35:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

The anti-vaxer bias in here is way over the top. Really.

People need to understand just how tough this decision is ...

On one hand, you have that whole screwball group known as the global medical establishment saying the one thing

versus some feisty political leaders protecting our freedom to choose complete selfishness over death to others.

And then there's the whole vaccine Owie! issue ...


Please explain the difficulties here? I really don't get it.

I believe Tom was being a sarcastic jerk.

Thanks for understating the obvious.

I am nothing if not understated. [;)]




Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 12:52:59 PM)

Wow, I didn’t know there was so many virologist experts on this forum.
How do you test for the Delta variant and the mass of mutations coming behind it?
How many vaccines will it take for each rapidly evolving iteration? Moderna is up to shot #3 now. Did the Johnson & Johnson vaccine have any side effects?
What are all the sources for your information on the effectiveness of the vaccine? Is it your opinion or is it truly science backed? The scientific community is not entirely onboard on either side.
What other resources are available? Are your facts based on a bias? A friend of a friend told me. I got it from the news. I am all knowing.
How effective is the testing apparatus for COVID? Any false positives? What happened to Influenza cases?
Is the information presented to you pre-filtered in many circumstances? What does the media do to people with different viewpoints? Do they sensor them? If you think they don’t, you are a lamb to the slaughter.
Why do you think so many people are anti-vaxxers? Don’t be lazy and say they are dumb. There is probably a lot more to that answer than you think if you are willing to dig.
Are you swayed from groupthink? Or do you merely succumb because it’s the easier path for you?
I won’t be confrontational, and I will fall in line because Joe Blow said so.
This is not going away and it’s bigger than football.
Go Vikes!




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