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David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:05:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

Reputable sources, That’s debatable. You’re a funny cat. Did you look at the opposing views? How far did your discernment take you?


Put up some information or let’s just quit this nonsense.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:07:41 PM)

You’re not afraid of the vaccine, but you’re afraid of the disease. But maybe the cure is worse than the disease. But your fear of the disease makes it ok to force others to comply. Your fear and that of others like you is deciding the fate of us all. - And I should just be quite and content in your all-knowing? I think not.



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:07:53 PM)

Let me open my Facebook newsfeed….

[&:][&:]



David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:10:43 PM)

Put. Up. Some. Information.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:10:58 PM)

I'm not here to do your research for you. I’m merely communicating my opinions based on my discernment. I can lead a horse to water, but I can’t make him drink. I can’t be responsible for what you learn or don’t want to learn. You should be. – And that is my warning to all those that live in FEAR.



The Happy Norseman -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:11:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

You’re not afraid of the vaccine, but you’re afraid of the disease. But maybe the cure is worse than the disease. But your fear of the disease makes it ok to force others to comply. Your fear and that of others like you is deciding the fate of us all. - And I should just be quite and content in your all-knowing? I think not.


LOL! You keep blathering on but when you’re challenged to provide any reputable source to back up your nonsense what do you do? Just spout more nonsense! You’re embarrassing yourself...



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:13:02 PM)

I’m not afraid of sunshine.. but I fear skin cancer

I’m not afraid of the dark, but I fear total blindness..

I’m not afraid of water, but I fear drowning..

I’m not afraid of a shotgun, but I fear where it’s pointed..

I’m not afraid of a pickup truck, but I fear getting run over by one, again…

Wow.. this is soooo easy…

I’m a fn genius..

A very stable one, at that…

[&:]



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:16:12 PM)

You still have a debilitating FEAR to question. You accept whatever is put in front of your face.



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:16:17 PM)

Politics aside..

I see some parallel mind sets…


https://news.yahoo.com/republican-official-mocked-covid-final-132846447.html



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:17:28 PM)

You think I? Have a fear to question?

Just [sm=anim_wow.gif]



DavidAOlson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:17:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Burns

You all are helping me make my counterpoint. You all think your right and righteous in your endeavor to the point of being Pious. No amount of critical thinking from another perspective is going to sway you. And thus, the rub. This isn’t going away. I would never stop someone from choosing their medical path. However, I wouldn’t force any medical treatment upon another based on my wants and needs. But how can anyone change your groupthink minds. You have all the facts and know all the angles. Shoot, some of the same folks are great football minds and can GM in the NFL tomorrow.
This site has become overcome with overbearing blowhards.

Here is the fatal flaw in your argument. There has been no critical thinking from the other perspective. Just a lot of misinformation about mercury, aluminum, deformed babies, etc. When the other side presents something that is actually the result of critical thought and research, I will consider it.


The concept of "the other side" doesn't really apply. For most relevant issues, the best experts have come to a range of plausible conclusions, and the range shrinks as more data comes in. Those experts also offer a mix of more speculative suggestions, grounded on a lot of experience with related situations. You can reasonably talk about "another side" among that group.

The anti-vax crowd is not "another side." They're incoherent and inconsistent with well-established facts. For example, the mRNA concerns ignore the fact that the virus injects far more mRNA into your cells than the Pfizer vaccine, and the vaccine is gone after a week while the virus persists for several weeks longer, sometimes months. If the mRNA aspect were an actual concern, and not just an argument of convenience, they'd be much, much more concerned about the actual virus.

Sorry, Sweens, just got triggered by my annoyance at "the other side" fallacy that gets trotted out for scientific controversies. One one side, science says cigarette smoking is bad for you, on the other side, it's not. The science has a range on just how bad it might be, but the denialists on "the other side" are just blowing smoke.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:18:07 PM)

YUP. Only the things that matter.



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:18:07 PM)

SD.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:19:31 PM)

History will tell.



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:26:45 PM)

FEAR is all you've got?

What a load of BS.

Do I wear my seatbelt because of FEAR?

Do I not smoke cigarettes because of FEAR?

Was FEAR the reason my parents had me vaccinated against polio or measles?

Is FEAR the reason I get a tetanus or flu shot?



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:27:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

History will tell.


History already has been telling the story. You just don't want to hear it.



David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:29:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

You’re not afraid of the vaccine, but you’re afraid of the disease. But maybe the cure is worse than the disease. But your fear of the disease makes it ok to force others to comply. Your fear and that of others like you is deciding the fate of us all. - And I should just be quite and content in your all-knowing? I think not.


I am not afraid of the disease - I respect it. If I were afraid of the disease I wouldn't have accepted the decision that I should be the one to care for our detox patients that were covid-positive and/or the test hadn't come back yet. This was before there was a vaccine. I answered that call and wasn't the least bit afraid because I followed all the protocols including limiting my time to less than 15 minutes, wearing a mask, not touching my face, and washing/sanitizing my hands after each contact. I did this for a year so that the younger staff and the pregnant staff wouldn't have to. It's called making a sacrifice for the good of others and doing it in the smartest way possible by following the advice of the experts. I realize you likely don't know what any of that means but maybe you can look it up. Oh, that's right - you don't look up anything either. So I guess we're just at an impasse.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:32:11 PM)

The history of two years? Or the history of humankind? How many leaders are truly benevolent? How many governments are benevolent?



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:35:23 PM)

Could this disease have been man made? Are the variants naturally occurring in nature? If it was created or modified in the Wuhan lab, why? For benevolent reasons?



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:36:32 PM)

Who really benefits from the vaccines and the patents? Is all of this benevolent too?



TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:36:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

I'm not here to do your research for you. I’m merely communicating my opinions based on my discernment. I can lead a horse to water, but I can’t make him drink. I can’t be responsible for what you learn or don’t want to learn. You should be. – And that is my warning to all those that live in FEAR.

Funny how others provide with material, but you say that you're not here to our research for us. This is the whole point. We HAVE done research. We have looked at the sources. The anti-vaxers have yet to present anything that resembles research.



The Happy Norseman -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:37:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

I'm not here to do your research for you. I’m merely communicating my opinions based on my discernment. I can lead a horse to water, but I can’t make him drink. I can’t be responsible for what you learn or don’t want to learn. You should be. – And that is my warning to all those that live in FEAR.


Awesome! Still more bobbing and weaving since you can't back up your absurd statements. Keep it up, court jester...



TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:39:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Burns

Who really benefits from the vaccines and the patents? Is all of this benevolent too?

Wow! You mean to tell me that the companies that spend millions on research are not entitled to make a profit? That's one of the biggest strawman arguments out there. They can't sell their product if it doesn't work.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:41:14 PM)

I’ve done a lot of research and that is a moronic reply from a position of ignorance. Take the easy way if you want. Trust the FEAR. You can’t help it, you’re bombarded from media directed towards you all day long. Groupthink sucks you folks in.



Burns -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/5/2021 3:44:09 PM)

Take your vaccines, reveal in the booster shots. What’s next? It has to get better right?



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