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marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 8:44:30 AM)

I haven't heard any sources saying Zim is happy with Cousins and won't trade him.

But one, probably non-credible source said the stickler was the Vikes wanted at least one 1st round pick for Cousins



Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 8:47:10 AM)

Herbert set rookie records for total touchdowns (36), passing touchdowns (31), completions (396), multi-passing touchdown games (10), games with 300 yards passing (eight) and three-passing touchdown games (six). He was just 39 yards short of Andrew Luck’s rookie record of 4,374 yards passing.


Herbert received 41 of the 50 votes, with Jefferson getting the other nine.



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 9:37:38 AM)

The one thing lacking in Jefferson's resume is that he didn't score a lot of TD's. I hope that he ratchets that up in 2021.

It was disappointing to see that Jared Allen didn't make the Hall of Fame, but I could see that there were other deserving players who didn't make it as well. All of the players who did make it were well deserved.



bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 9:49:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I haven't heard any sources saying Zim is happy with Cousins and won't trade him.

But one, probably non-credible source said the stickler was the Vikes wanted at least one 1st round pick for Cousins

How about Zim as the source:
“Kirk’s our guy,” Zimmer said Friday on NFL Network. “You know, he had a terrific year this year. We were fourth in the league on offense. We have to get better on defense — we had a lot of injuries and young guys — that’s my job to get it fixed.”

Now anyone link to a CREDIBLE source that the Vikings themselves are considering anything but Kirk being their QB, not just 2021, but 2022 as well.

They're not trading Kirk, and they're not drafting a QB high.



Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 2:17:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I haven't heard any sources saying Zim is happy with Cousins and won't trade him.

But one, probably non-credible source said the stickler was the Vikes wanted at least one 1st round pick for Cousins

How about Zim as the source:
“Kirk’s our guy,” Zimmer said Friday on NFL Network. “You know, he had a terrific year this year. We were fourth in the league on offense. We have to get better on defense — we had a lot of injuries and young guys — that’s my job to get it fixed.”

Now anyone link to a CREDIBLE source that the Vikings themselves are considering anything but Kirk being their QB, not just 2021, but 2022 as well.

They're not trading Kirk, and they're not drafting a QB high.

Or could be playing a little hard ball to drive up the price...



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 4:19:58 PM)

Updated NFC North Cap Space [note: parenthesis means negative numbers]

CHI: ($6.2 mil)
DET: $6.2 mil
GB: ($28.2 mil)
MIN: ($7.6 mil)

Didn’t realize how far in the hole the Packers are

(Jared Barsness on Twitter)

So I'm not clear about this. There is more cap space then predicted and so these updated numbers are much better for the Vikings?



Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 4:33:42 PM)

Will I be the only one not watching the Super Bowl? I might take a peek at it, though.



Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 4:52:27 PM)

Read where Car offered Det Bridgewater, the 8th overall pick and a 5th rder for Stafford

I wonder if the would make the same offer for Cousins



ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 5:10:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Read where Car offered Det Bridgewater, the 8th overall pick and a 5th rder for Stafford

I wonder if the would make the same offer for Cousins


Vikings should do it if only offered the 8th pick and get Lance or package the 8th and 14th to move up,

Speilman wouldn't do it, his seat is warm to hot and he needs to win next year.



Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 5:31:12 PM)

That was some washed out version of the Anthem.



David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 5:58:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Will I be the only one not watching the Super Bowl? I might take a peek at it, though.


I assume you have other things going on. Why wouldn't I want to see what the two best teams in the NFL try to do in the biggest game in all of sports?



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 9:58:09 PM)

Now anyone link to a CREDIBLE source that the Vikings themselves are considering anything but Kirk being their QB, not just 2021, but 2022 as well.

I ask you this, has a QB trade ever happened where no "credible sources" reported on rumors about, and only the "non-credible" sources were talking about it ?



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 10:00:47 PM)

"Speilman wouldn't do it, his seat is warm to hot and he needs to win next year."

Or trading for Lawrence or Watson would buy him time, and he can brag about Jefferson, the young CBs, Cleveland, etc ....



bstinger -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 10:08:35 PM)

Today's Super Bowl confirmed the importance of dominating the LOS. As great as Mahomes is, he had no time. Rush the QB and protect the QB. Kirk could've filled in for TB today and won.



bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/7/2021 10:18:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Now anyone link to a CREDIBLE source that the Vikings themselves are considering anything but Kirk being their QB, not just 2021, but 2022 as well.

I ask you this, has a QB trade ever happened where no "credible sources" reported on rumors about, and only the "non-credible" sources were talking about it ?

Not when there's already this much chatter based on a source with, at best, limited credibility. Someone else would have it. The point is that all of this chatter is based on next to nothing, and the team is clearly quite pleased with themselves and how they've built this team.



Brad H -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 6:21:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

Today's Super Bowl confirmed the importance of dominating the LOS. As great as Mahomes is, he had no time. Rush the QB and protect the QB. Kirk could've filled in for TB today and won.

The line of scrimmage would have meant nothing had the guys downfield not all been covered. That was a total team effort on defense last night. The Bucs have the best linebacker crew in the league. The guys were covered downfield. The guys up front got pressure. Very impressive.

I knew Kansas City was in huge trouble in the first 30 minutes when they never tried to establish any type of running game. They put all the pressure on Mahomes and never gave him any help. A woeful performance by Andy Reid and his staff. I usually really like Reid, but they never made any adjustments and got outcoached badly on Sunday. They thought they could go through the motions and score points.



Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 6:23:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

Today's Super Bowl confirmed the importance of dominating the LOS. As great as Mahomes is, he had no time. Rush the QB and protect the QB. Kirk could've filled in for TB today and won.

That was clearly the difference. KC had to go with both backup T's. Mahomes looked like a different qb since that concussion. He got beat up bad in this game.



Brad H -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 6:25:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

Today's Super Bowl confirmed the importance of dominating the LOS. As great as Mahomes is, he had no time. Rush the QB and protect the QB. Kirk could've filled in for TB today and won.

That was clearly the difference. KC had to go with both backup T's. Mahomes looked like a different qb since that concussion. He got beat up bad in this game.

Guys were covered. He attempted 49 passes. Todd Bowles was the big winner on Sunday.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 7:49:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Read where Car offered Det Bridgewater, the 8th overall pick and a 5th rder for Stafford

I wonder if the would make the same offer for Cousins


One difference is Stafford had/has a much friendlier contract.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 7:51:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

"Speilman wouldn't do it, his seat is warm to hot and he needs to win next year."

Or trading for Lawrence or Watson would buy him time, and he can brag about Jefferson, the young CBs, Cleveland, etc ....


Lawrence? Watson? Put your tin foill hat away. Actually, throw it away.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 7:53:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

Today's Super Bowl confirmed the importance of dominating the LOS. As great as Mahomes is, he had no time. Rush the QB and protect the QB. Kirk could've filled in for TB today and won.

That was clearly the difference. KC had to go with both backup T's. Mahomes looked like a different qb since that concussion. He got beat up bad in this game.


Our lost son Remmers was out there at LT. He was their starting RT during the season.



Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 8:43:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

Today's Super Bowl confirmed the importance of dominating the LOS. As great as Mahomes is, he had no time. Rush the QB and protect the QB. Kirk could've filled in for TB today and won.

That was clearly the difference. KC had to go with both backup T's. Mahomes looked like a different qb since that concussion. He got beat up bad in this game.


Our lost son Remmers was out there at LT. He was their starting RT during the season.

Remmers could have easily had 8 holding calls. Tough night for him.



Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 8:56:32 AM)

Klint Kubiak officially OC.



Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 9:12:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Klint Kubiak officially OC.


I'm fine with this. I just hope he'll be less predictable in the running game. I'm fine with being known as a running team bc being able to run opens up so much. We need less 1 yard and a cloud of dust on 2nd down and 1 for example. Watching Cook slicing and dicing for 9 or 10 yards is great though. Surgical strikes vs painting with a wide brush.



Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/8/2021 9:22:15 AM)

I feel like there's very little chance we win less than 10 games next year.



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