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bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/18/2021 3:27:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: marty Cousins can restructure again, Brady has restructured many times. You or anyone else could give money for nothing to a billionaire. Who has permanently given up money among all of these virtue-monger QBs and others? If you want Kirk to restructure at this point, you want him to be the Vikings' QB well into the future. If there is a Cousins restructure it will be after the season. He only counts $21M against the cap next season. They will want to restructure after the year to avoid the $45 million dollar hit that comes after it. Pretty sure he counts for $31M for 2021 and $45M for 2022; at least that's what Spotrac says. My bad. That's the second time, I got caught looking at the cap savings column instead of cap number column with Cousins. I still don't see a scenario where Cousins restructures until after the season. He has said as much and he has all of the leverage. I do that too.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/18/2021 4:14:08 PM)
Darren Wolfson replied Ryan @homiesloveryan Another day, more info on the #Vikings: - Mike Zimmer was “all about” getting Pat Pete - Zimmer and Hunter talked on the phone, talks reportedly went very well - Danielle Hunter will eventually get an extension and a raise, Doogie believes 2:13 PM · Mar 18, 2021·Twitter for iPhone Ryan @homiesloveryan · 1h Replying to @homiesloveryan - Chad Graff’s article reportedly ‘ruffled a bunch of feathers’ - Hunter looks fine, is moving fine and is in “really really” good shape - Vikings were fans of Forrest Lamp a couple years back, will target a guard - Recent buzz says Rashawn Slater could go higher than 14 Ryan @homiesloveryan · 1h - Still looking for a pass rusher and Safety, Carlos Dunlap/Ronald Blair on the edge front, Will Parks on safety front - Nothing really happening with Keanu Neal yesterday, but inquired about him - Made a strong push for Harris, couldn’t agree on money so Vikes pivoted Ryan @homiesloveryan · 1h - Mike Zimmer still has the keys to the driver’s seat - Vikings really never came close to getting Thuney, Doogie believes - Might make a trade and sign a guard in the next week - There have been 0 talks about reworking Kirk’s contract - “More is coming, stay tuned”

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/18/2021 6:07:59 PM)
Speculation on the plan for the offensive line. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/3/18/22338843/vikings-offensive-line-plan-coming-into-focus?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/18/2021 7:32:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: marty Cousins can restructure again, Brady has restructured many times. You or anyone else could give money for nothing to a billionaire. Who has permanently given up money among all of these virtue-monger QBs and others? If you want Kirk to restructure at this point, you want him to be the Vikings' QB well into the future. If there is a Cousins restructure it will be after the season. He only counts $21M against the cap next season. They will want to restructure after the year to avoid the $45 million dollar hit that comes after it. Pretty sure he counts for $31M for 2021 and $45M for 2022; at least that's what Spotrac says. Brought that up to him a couple of times a couple of months ago. That's why I acknowledged it when I replied to bohumm. quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens My bad. That's the second time, I got caught looking at the cap savings column instead of cap number column with Cousins. Better late than never. Late? No, I owned it then as well. Owned it, lol. Then you must be losing it because you went right back to $21 million.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/19/2021 10:44:21 AM)
Yes, Bill I finally agree with you. You are most definitely losing it. That would explain your obsession with a mistake that I made a couple of moths ago.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/19/2021 10:54:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Speculation on the plan for the offensive line. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/3/18/22338843/vikings-offensive-line-plan-coming-into-focus?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter That looks kind of like what I was expecting outside of Udoh playing LG. I really don't know how highly the Vikings regard him, since they preferred starting Dozier 16 games over giving Udoh a shot. Cleveland staying at guard wouldn't surprise me. The Vikings place a high premium on guards being athletic and able to get to the second and third level of the defense in the run game. Cleveland was strong in that area last year. There is also too much chatter about the Vikings looking to trade for or draft a LT.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/20/2021 7:09:26 AM)
I would be a big fan of the idea of moving Udoh to RG and moving Cleveland to LT, pick up a free agent LG and then even trading back in the first to still pick the best player available at that spot.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/20/2021 8:51:44 AM)
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Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/21/2021 2:50:11 AM)
All they gotta do is...something tangible with the Online...and this is it. HFA and our 1st SB trip in over 4 decades. I can't guarantee a SB win. Those are 50-50. And I don't even care. Most of you have a different history. I just want the buzzer to go knowing we really are playing in the SB...for the 1st time since long before I was a fan...but not too long after I was born. They do something on oline...and this is it. I feel it. As long as I don't screw it up. [;)]

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/21/2021 3:20:59 AM)
We'll prove 18-2 is better than 18-1. We can be scary good. 1st 2 draft resources to OL. Or a good free agent and a score with 1 of our 1st 2 picks.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/21/2021 8:28:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M We'll prove 18-2 is better than 18-1. We can be scary good. 1st 2 draft resources to OL. Or a good free agent and a score with 1 of our 1st 2 picks. It's like we are getting two defensive tackles in free agency with Pierce suiting up this season. If Hunter plays at a high level and Barr plays like he's playing in a contract year, those are all players that didn't contribute last year. Oh. I forgot to mention Peterson. We haven't had the draft yet, but clearly the defense will play at a higher level this upcoming season. Well, it could only be better. Last year was a disaster. Let's hope they stay healthy, though.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 9:30:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens Yes, Bill I finally agree with you. You are most definitely losing it. That would explain your obsession with a mistake that I made a couple of moths ago. Wrong, it was part of the current conversation. You are very prompt in replying, probably stems from insecurity.

The Happy Norseman -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 1:55:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M All they gotta do is...something tangible with the Online...and this is it. HFA and our 1st SB trip in over 4 decades. I can't guarantee a SB win. Those are 50-50. And I don't even care. Most of you have a different history. I just want the buzzer to go knowing we really are playing in the SB...for the 1st time since long before I was a fan...but not too long after I was born. They do something on oline...and this is it. I feel it. As long as I don't screw it up. [;)] Therein lies the rub. We were all saying the same thing about needing to focus on the oline last year and what happened? We started Dru Samia and Dakota Dozier...

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 7:48:13 PM)
Rob Brzezinski just carved out $5.6 million in new cap space by doing some cap moves with Barr's restructure. Added 2 voidable years to spread out the signing bonus hit and lowered the base salary. (Vikings Spin on Twitter)

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 7:52:30 PM)
Gives the #Vikings roughly $10,067,467 in cap space. Plenty of money for some offensive linemen. Along with Dalvin Tomlinson it’s the second time I’ve seen the team use void years this offseason to lower cap hits (Sean Borman on Twitter) Twitter is a buzz right now that something big is going to happen.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 7:54:54 PM)
If I had to guess on what would change with Peterson’s usage in Minnesota... -not traveling full time (maybe situationally) -less press reps (maybe press him situationally) -more zone & off man -strictly on the boundary/outside, no more slot -some “exotic” rotations/other stuff (Spencer Thompson on Twitter)

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 8:01:31 PM)
Peterson on NFL Network: https://twitter.com/Vikings/status/1374152663789666306?s=20

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 8:49:56 PM)
I'll take an order of 'something big. Already super up for the season but I'll take more. Esp and OL move.

Steve Lentz -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 8:52:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M All they gotta do is...something tangible with the Online...and this is it. HFA and our 1st SB trip in over 4 decades. I can't guarantee a SB win. Those are 50-50. And I don't even care. Most of you have a different history. I just want the buzzer to go knowing we really are playing in the SB...for the 1st time since long before I was a fan...but not too long after I was born. They do something on oline...and this is it. I feel it. As long as I don't screw it up. [;)] Rashawn Slater Northwestern. Can play anywhere on the OL.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 9:09:25 PM)
I am looking forward to watching Minnesota, Arizona and Chicago as all teams that are likely to improve, and one of them could be significantly improved. Rams and Colts could be contenders, of they can get great play from their QBs.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/22/2021 11:26:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson If I had to guess on what would change with Peterson’s usage in Minnesota... -not traveling full time (maybe situationally) -less press reps (maybe press him situationally) -more zone & off man -strictly on the boundary/outside, no more slot -some “exotic” rotations/other stuff (Spencer Thompson on Twitter) What is "traveling"?

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/23/2021 3:44:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson If I had to guess on what would change with Peterson’s usage in Minnesota... -not traveling full time (maybe situationally) -less press reps (maybe press him situationally) -more zone & off man -strictly on the boundary/outside, no more slot -some “exotic” rotations/other stuff (Spencer Thompson on Twitter) What is "traveling"? He used to go wherever the best receiver would line up. I believe Rhodes did some of that too in his prime.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/23/2021 7:55:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M All they gotta do is...something tangible with the Online...and this is it. HFA and our 1st SB trip in over 4 decades. I can't guarantee a SB win. Those are 50-50. And I don't even care. Most of you have a different history. I just want the buzzer to go knowing we really are playing in the SB...for the 1st time since long before I was a fan...but not too long after I was born. They do something on oline...and this is it. I feel it. As long as I don't screw it up. [;)] Rashawn Slater Northwestern. Can play anywhere on the OL. That would seem ideal for the Vikings philosophy. The problem with that is it would mean drafting OL in the first round.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/23/2021 8:40:53 AM)
I believe Slater would stay at LT. Great choice if we can get him. My guess is that there will be more than one "great option" available at #14.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/23/2021 8:47:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson I believe Slater would stay at LT. Great choice if we can get him. My guess is that there will be more than one "great option" available at #14. I agree Bruce and I would be damn happy if they got Slater at #14. And you're right, there will be more than one impact player at that pick.

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