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ORIGINAL: David F.

An oldie but a goodie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYIldkouAKM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Never hurts to have depth/experience.

But honestly, unless we know Gladney is going to be suspended for part/full season OR if not and Breeland is willing to accept a Newman level deal (same with Atkins), the cap is too precious. I'd rather the young corners get "some PT". Right now our starters are Peterson, Mac, Danztler. So Gladney might be in play, same with Boyd (who played "relatively" well in limited snaps).

Same goes for our DTs. We have Tomlinson and Pierce. Watts improved at both NT and 3T with PT. I'm "hopeful" Lynch and Twyman can provide some pass rushing specialist snaps. We also got Weatherly who can rotate inside as a rushing specialist.

My cap priorities:
Re-sign ONeil. I'd guess that's a 3M or so hit for this year.
Any cut free agents that fill a specific need that becomes apparent through OTAs/Training camp. Could be CB/G/DE/DT/3rd WR/etc.
Rollover Cap - it's not like a FSA (use it or lose it). Got quite a few guys on 1 yr deals and even with development/next year's draft, we'll need the cap next year.

Surprised they aren't more worried about Safety Depth....but if they have enough corners (PP to safety)? A Charles Woodson type approach maybe?

Bynum/Mettellus/Dorn/Kirk as safety backups is more underwhelming then Dozier as a backup lineman...

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK,


To be clear. David F is clearly making his expert analysis of Cousins based on one game.

Hey David, did you know Tom Brady has had a few bad games in his career. And so did Joe Montana, and Brett Favre, and Steve Young, and Dan Marino, and Drew Brees, and Fran Tarkenton.

I get it. You hate Cousins and wish he would be gone. Your hatred shows clear as day. But Cousins is our QB for this year at the very least, unless some kind of weird ass shit happens as we trade him and a draft pick or two for Russell Wilson.... Get used to it. All the youtube videos and wanton hatred isn't going to change that.

I don't think Cousins is the next Rich Gannon. but adequate is a fair description, IMHO.

all this shit you are posting is missing the entire point of my original post...That after Cousins, we have no depth at QB. Cousins will be OK, he's not the problem. But if he gets hurt we have the likes of Mond, Stanley and Browning on the roster. We'd be ****ed. With Cousins we have a chance. With Cousins we are not ****ed.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK,


To be clear. David F is clearly making his expert analysis of Cousins based on one game.

Hey David, did you know Tom Brady has had a few bad games in his career. And so did Joe Montana, and Brett Favre, and Steve Young, and Dan Marino, and Drew Brees, and Fran Tarkenton.

I get it. You hate Cousins and wish he would be gone. Your hatred shows clear as day. But Cousins is our QB for this year at the very least, unless some kind of weird ass shit happens as we trade him and a draft pick or two for Russell Wilson.... Get used to it. All the youtube videos and wanton hatred isn't going to change that.

I don't think Cousins is the next Rich Gannon. but adequate is a fair description, IMHO.

all this shit you are posting is missing the entire point of my original post...That after Cousins, we have no depth at QB. Cousins will be OK, he's not the problem. But if he gets hurt we have the likes of Mond, Stanley and Browning on the roster. We'd be ****ed. With Cousins we have a chance. With Cousins we are not ****ed.

All of your many many assumptions in this post are false.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK,


To be clear. David F is clearly making his expert analysis of Cousins based on one game.

Hey David, did you know Tom Brady has had a few bad games in his career. And so did Joe Montana, and Brett Favre, and Steve Young, and Dan Marino, and Drew Brees, and Fran Tarkenton.

I get it. You hate Cousins and wish he would be gone. Your hatred shows clear as day. But Cousins is our QB for this year at the very least, unless some kind of weird ass shit happens as we trade him and a draft pick or two for Russell Wilson.... Get used to it. All the youtube videos and wanton hatred isn't going to change that.

I don't think Cousins is the next Rich Gannon. but adequate is a fair description, IMHO.

all this shit you are posting is missing the entire point of my original post...That after Cousins, we have no depth at QB. Cousins will be OK, he's not the problem. But if he gets hurt we have the likes of Mond, Stanley and Browning on the roster. We'd be ****ed. With Cousins we have a chance. With Cousins we are not ****ed.

All of your many many assumptions in this post are false.

ALL of them?

So...Mond, Stanley and Browning have NFL experience? Whew I guess I was wrong.

We aren't ****ed if one of them has to take over the offense? How prophetic of you.


Oh, I can point to one game last year that Tom Brady had a bad game....Is that assumption wrong. Did Joe Montana never have a bad game? I can point to three superbowls and suggest Tarkenton didn't always have a good game.

And with this on our roster at the QB position: Cousins, Mond, Stanley, and Browning, who's going to be the QB for the most part?

Yeah all my assumptions are false.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Atta boy Phil. I was getting worried that it was about to die out. [;)]

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ORIGINAL: David F.

So not only am I a Kirk hater now I live and die thinking ponder was better than Kirk? All this because I posted some links to some actual Kirk cousins interceptions that didn’t involve any pressure or tips by our receivers? Some of us appear to have wonderful imaginations.

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All of your many many assumptions in this post are false.



ALL of them?

So...Mond, Stanley and Browning have NFL experience? Whew I guess I was wrong.

We aren't ****ed if one of them has to take over the offense? How prophetic of you.


Oh, I can point to one game last year that Tom Brady had a bad game....Is that assumption wrong. Did Joe Montana never have a bad game? I can point to three superbowls and suggest Tarkenton didn't always have a good game.

And with this on our roster at the QB position: Cousins, Mond, Stanley, and Browning, who's going to be the QB for the most part?

Yeah all my assumptions are false.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

So not only am I a Kirk hater now I live and die thinking ponder was better than Kirk? All this because I posted some links to some actual Kirk cousins interceptions that didn’t involve any pressure or tips by our receivers? Some of us appear to have wonderful imaginations.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

So not only am I a Kirk hater now I live and die thinking ponder was better than Kirk? All this because I posted some links to some actual Kirk cousins interceptions that didn’t involve any pressure or tips by our receivers? Some of us appear to have wonderful imaginations.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK,


To be clear. David F is clearly making his expert analysis of Cousins based on one game.

Hey David, did you know Tom Brady has had a few bad games in his career. And so did Joe Montana, and Brett Favre, and Steve Young, and Dan Marino, and Drew Brees, and Fran Tarkenton.

I get it. You hate Cousins and wish he would be gone. Your hatred shows clear as day. But Cousins is our QB for this year at the very least, unless some kind of weird ass shit happens as we trade him and a draft pick or two for Russell Wilson.... Get used to it. All the youtube videos and wanton hatred isn't going to change that.

I don't think Cousins is the next Rich Gannon. but adequate is a fair description, IMHO.

all this shit you are posting is missing the entire point of my original post...That after Cousins, we have no depth at QB. Cousins will be OK, he's not the problem. But if he gets hurt we have the likes of Mond, Stanley and Browning on the roster. We'd be ****ed. With Cousins we have a chance. With Cousins we are not ****ed.

All of your many many assumptions in this post are false.

ALL of them?

So...Mond, Stanley and Browning have NFL experience? Whew I guess I was wrong.

We aren't ****ed if one of them has to take over the offense? How prophetic of you.


Oh, I can point to one game last year that Tom Brady had a bad game....Is that assumption wrong. Did Joe Montana never have a bad game? I can point to three superbowls and suggest Tarkenton didn't always have a good game.

And with this on our roster at the QB position: Cousins, Mond, Stanley, and Browning, who's going to be the QB for the most part?

Yeah all my assumptions are false.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

OK,


To be clear. David F is clearly making his expert analysis of Cousins based on one game.

Hey David, did you know Tom Brady has had a few bad games in his career. And so did Joe Montana, and Brett Favre, and Steve Young, and Dan Marino, and Drew Brees, and Fran Tarkenton.

I get it. You hate Cousins and wish he would be gone. Your hatred shows clear as day. But Cousins is our QB for this year at the very least, unless some kind of weird ass shit happens as we trade him and a draft pick or two for Russell Wilson.... Get used to it. All the youtube videos and wanton hatred isn't going to change that.

I don't think Cousins is the next Rich Gannon. but adequate is a fair description, IMHO.

all this shit you are posting is missing the entire point of my original post...That after Cousins, we have no depth at QB. Cousins will be OK, he's not the problem. But if he gets hurt we have the likes of Mond, Stanley and Browning on the roster. We'd be ****ed. With Cousins we have a chance. With Cousins we are not ****ed.

All of your many many assumptions in this post are false.

ALL of them?

So...Mond, Stanley and Browning have NFL experience? Whew I guess I was wrong.

We aren't ****ed if one of them has to take over the offense? How prophetic of you.


Oh, I can point to one game last year that Tom Brady had a bad game....Is that assumption wrong. Did Joe Montana never have a bad game? I can point to three superbowls and suggest Tarkenton didn't always have a good game.

And with this on our roster at the QB position: Cousins, Mond, Stanley, and Browning, who's going to be the QB for the most part?

Yeah all my assumptions are false.

I didn’t say everything you wrote was an assumption. I said you made many many of them - which you did - and they were all false. They were: thinking I didn’t know Brady and Montana and the others ever had bad days, that I hate Kirk, that I don’t know Kirk is our qb, that I don’t know who our backups are, and that I don’t know Kirk is better than Stanley and browning.

You said most of his interceptions were due to pressure and/or tipped balls. I disagree and shared some clips. I also encourage you to look up football outsiders, in particular their stat where they adjust season interceptions for drops, tips, and other criteria. For 2020, they claim kirk’s ints should have been 12 instead of 13.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

So they count Hail Mary's as QB's fault? He had at least 1 in 2020.

Do they include wrong route's like the one Cook ran that resulted in an INT as the QB's fault?

I find it highly unlikely that all of those other 12 are 100% Cousins.

As far pressure. Unfortunately all QBs are human. Even those great QBs listed, if you pressure them consistently (esp inside), they all start to hear footsteps and can rush things even when there is no obvious pressure.

I'll come off a Cousin lover, but whatever. It is what it is. I look forward to the time we can move on but hope Cousins wins us the SB this year.