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Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (6/7/2021 8:08:37 AM)
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As I understand it, Pierce is a wall but not a great pass rushing option. I thought I had read that Tomlinson had a solid pressure rate last year from the NT position. It might be better from 3T in 2021. I don't think he's 1 dimensional and will be an upgrade imo.
https://lwosports.com/2021/03/29/dalvin-tomlinson-brings-help-run-defense/
The article concludes, IMO rightly so, with: If Tomlinson can be a force in the passing game, his reps will likely increase on third downs and or passing situations. In New York, he was mainly sidelined when teams would spread the field with the threat of passing. Minnesota has gained a marque run-suffer, but the questions will loom on how effective Tomlinson will be in the passing game.
I liked the signing in terms of getting a player coming off his first contract with possibilities to improve next to Pierce. But my opinion was also jaded by opponents absolutely shredding us rushing up the middle. So it's like, ok we addressed that with these two bigs starting, now what else do you have Tomlinson.
As for Pierce, can he be a poor mans Jerry Ball/Pat Williams?
Don't know how it translates but he was the Ravens top Dlinemane in 2018; not sure how it will translate after taking a year off.
Top dlineman? at sock puppetry? says who? the baltimore newtimes food critic?
looking at their 2019 depth chart, not much competition for ‘best of’ trophies. Their LBs get all the production.
Pierce chokes off the middle, occupies, absorbs. He’s like a lead turtle ... hydrant kind of a thing.
Tomlinson is more of a masher, a dislocator, a disruptor.
We won’t get pushed around, thats for sure. And we’ll do some pushing. Not sure after that.
Kendricks will get his, that’s also for sure.
Interesting to me that Hunter Pierce Tomlinson would be a killer 3-4 dline and Barr a proto 3-4 lb.
Its a shame Zimmer only uses Barr to check the enemy. He’s an occupier, an outflanker. We should be sending him in to decapitate people. Maybe he’s too pleasant for that
Pro Foot Ball Focus:
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/michael-pierce/11101?season=2018
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/michael-pierce/11101?season=2019
I'm not sure why but responding to your posts always feels like driving into a major highway spaghetti exchange.
Your PFF links show that you can't measure Pierce's performance based on standard all-american pro-bowl stats. So they're useless.
What we do know is, Pierce is supposed to just stand there and take it like a man. And by reputation, he does that well.
Does PFF have a Best 'Big Fat Tick' measurement, organized by how well squatty human trenchers get under the pads of OL and drain their will to execute blocking schemes? Probably not.
Someone posted that they weren't sure what they would get from Pierce....I mentioned what he did in 18 & 19...not every post is about you Tom. [:D] I do see the whole post and replies are about Pierce....not sure how it is spaghetti at that point.
So ... I responded to one of your posts, then you responded to mine, then I responded to yours, then you responded to mine ... my big ego has been assuming your responses were directed at me.
All this time I thought your responses were just indirect, sideways or illogical but you were simply addressing other posts during our back and forthing. Got it.
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