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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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A severe infection in the ear and surrounding area can cause huge problems

Hearing loss, infection of the vestibular organs of the inner ear can effect balance, the ability to stand, walk and run, let alone what a physical head jarring impact AKA being tackled , would do.

Also due the the proximity of that area to the brain, blood supply and nerves of the head..

Erring on the side of caution and ensuring the infection is completely controlled or eliminated is by far how you should treat a valuable offensive player.

Mundt and Muse are fine as place-holders.

I’d rather have hock fully healthy than rush him back and risk his ability and career.

The last thing you want is an ear infection becoming a cerebral infection..

I was thinking vertigo could be the issue. I let an ear inection go too long and ended up with about three months of vertigo. It's like being seasick 24 hours a day.

The only reason I called in sick at work for the last few years was vertigo a couple of times. What a bitch that is to deal with. Your eyeballs just bounce! For me, staying still, eyes closed for a few hours and it went away. I can't even imagine anything long term.

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Is there really no middle ground between "worst in the NFL" and "perfect from the start"?

Worst President ever and “bestest and bigglyest President ever”

At least he drives in the same lane everywhere he goes..

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I'm saying he was beyond bad last year and showed almost no improvement.

Could he surprise and be decent? Its possible.

Should we expect it based on how bad he was? Nope.

So you think he should have slotted in at RG and be perfect from the start? Rookie QBs, WRs (JJ), CB, etc. don't work that way. I was really impressed with Evans last year before the 3 concussions and many suggest he was a bad pick.

Olines take time to develop no matter how impatient you are.....and a 24 year old guard that started game 1 of rookie season still has development time before you . Don't move him to LG either.

Weird thing is that the posters recommending we tank are the most impatient when it comes to rookies. Ingram is just starting his 2nd season in about 3 weeks....

This is why people struggle trying to have conversations with you. You move the goalposts to impossible levels to try to make a point.

Is there really no middle ground between "worst in the NFL" and "perfect from the start"?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I'm saying he was beyond bad last year and showed almost no improvement.

Could he surprise and be decent? Its possible.

Should we expect it based on how bad he was? Nope.

So you think he should have slotted in at RG and be perfect from the start? Rookie QBs, WRs (JJ), CB, etc. don't work that way. I was really impressed with Evans last year before the 3 concussions and many suggest he was a bad pick.

Olines take time to develop no matter how impatient you are.....and a 24 year old guard that started game 1 of rookie season still has development time before you . Don't move him to LG either.

Weird thing is that the posters recommending we tank are the most impatient when it comes to rookies. Ingram is just starting his 2nd season in about 3 weeks....

This is why people struggle trying to have conversations with you. You move the goalposts to impossible levels to try to make a point.

Is there really no middle ground between "worst in the NFL" and "perfect from the start"?

I wasn't the one using the terms turnstiles and the like.

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Dianna Russini@DMRussini

The Vikings and tight end T.J. Hockenson have been working on an extension, but both sides are far apart, per league sources.
Hockenson wants to reset the market with a historic contract extension for tight ends.
He has been limited at practice because of an ear infection and back soreness.

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Darren Waller's $17M is currently the biggest TE contract by AAV.

So, if true, he's looking at 18+?

I love Hock, but he's, at best, a Top 5 (maybe Top 8) TE.

Fortunately the franchise tag for a TE next year is around 12M (which might be the reason for the "soft holdout"...

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What hock is doing is unofficially referred to as a “hold in”. It’s like a hold-out except you show up so you don’t incur any fines but you still make it clear that you’re not going to be available to play. He’s probably worth a huge contract. Why did we trade for him if we didn’t anticipate this? I’d like to know what number they’re arguing over.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Darren Waller's $17M is currently the biggest TE contract by AAV.

So, if true, he's looking at 18+?

I love Hock, but he's, at best, a Top 5 (maybe Top 8) TE.

Fortunately the franchise tag for a TE next year is around 12M (which might be the reason for the "soft holdout"...

Agree ... the tag / soft holdout is an interesting comment ... hadn't thought of that angle.

I also like TJ. Hope we keep him.

But I could also easily see us over-valuing TJ, given KOCs TE fetish.

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What hock is doing is unofficially referred to as a “hold in”. It’s like a hold-out except you show up so you don’t incur any fines but you still make it clear that you’re not going to be available to play. He’s probably worth a huge contract. Why did we trade for him if we didn’t anticipate this? I’d like to know what number they’re arguing over.

Not sure how faking an injury like vertigo anyone would expect that would increase their value

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What hock is doing is unofficially referred to as a “hold in”. It’s like a hold-out except you show up so you don’t incur any fines but you still make it clear that you’re not going to be available to play. He’s probably worth a huge contract. Why did we trade for him if we didn’t anticipate this? I’d like to know what number they’re arguing over.

Not sure how faking an injury like vertigo anyone would expect that would increase their value

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What hock is doing is unofficially referred to as a “hold in”. It’s like a hold-out except you show up so you don’t incur any fines but you still make it clear that you’re not going to be available to play. He’s probably worth a huge contract. Why did we trade for him if we didn’t anticipate this? I’d like to know what number they’re arguing over.

Not sure how faking an injury like vertigo anyone would expect that would increase their value

His value is established. He wants an extension and fears the franchise tag.

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Dianna Russini@DMRussini

The Vikings and tight end T.J. Hockenson have been working on an extension, but both sides are far apart, per league sources.
Hockenson wants to reset the market with a historic contract extension for tight ends.
He has been limited at practice because of an ear infection and back soreness.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Dianna Russini@DMRussini

The Vikings and tight end T.J. Hockenson have been working on an extension, but both sides are far apart, per league sources.
Hockenson wants to reset the market with a historic contract extension for tight ends.
He has been limited at practice because of an ear infection and back soreness.

Maybe why Detroit moved him? Not worth the pain in the ass.

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What hock is doing is unofficially referred to as a “hold in”. It’s like a hold-out except you show up so you don’t incur any fines but you still make it clear that you’re not going to be available to play. He’s probably worth a huge contract. Why did we trade for him if we didn’t anticipate this? I’d like to know what number they’re arguing over.

Not sure how faking an injury like vertigo anyone would expect that would increase their value

His value is established. He wants an extension and fears the franchise tag.

In reality he has reason to worry about it, doesn't he? I mean, cant the Vikes get 3 years out of him and he really can't do anything about it other than refuse to play?

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Dianna Russini@DMRussini

The Vikings and tight end T.J. Hockenson have been working on an extension, but both sides are far apart, per league sources.
Hockenson wants to reset the market with a historic contract extension for tight ends.
He has been limited at practice because of an ear infection and back soreness.

Maybe why Detroit moved him? Not worth the pain in the ass.

Say everything that is said was true, and we don't know jack, how is his approach more of a pain in the ass than anyone else?