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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Just keep in mind, you and Sims could GUESS right or wrong. Its still a wild guess.

I don't think it's a wild guess. I really believe Simms is good at this.

Nobody picking Zach Wilson over Lawrence is good at this.

He’s in the same ballpark as kiper and zierlein and a bunch of others. l
do give him credit for being willing to go against the grain … like he did with Wilson and he’s doing this year with Nix and Maye.

Seems more like shtick than science.

As I’ve mentioned, I have a buddy who follows college football obsessively who completely agrees with him on Nix.

Nix has to prove he's not Colt Brennan 2.0.

Gaudy college numbers (45 TDs, 3 INTs, 77%), but it was all screens and RPO. Average air on Nix throws was 6 yards. Everyone else was 9+.

How does Nix prove this? In college he did what Oregon asked of him. It doesn't mean he can or can't do everything else. Teams will need to work him out to see how he looks running their playbook.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I don’t move up for Maye or McCarthy, but I do for Daniels.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: David Levine
I don’t move up for Maye or McCarthy, but I do for Daniels.

Same here.

Williams and/or Daniels are the only two I'd move up for more than a couple of spots.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I don’t move up for Maye or McCarthy, but I do for Daniels.

Same here.

Williams and/or Daniels are the only two I'd move up for more than a couple of spots.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: David Levine
I don’t move up for Maye or McCarthy, but I do for Daniels.

Same here.

Williams and/or Daniels are the only two I'd move up for more than a couple of spots.

For me it's a matter of how far I would move up depending on the QB. I wouldn't move up to #3 for McCarthy or Maye. I think moving up to somewhere around 8 to get one of them is preferable to standing pat and taking Pennix.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Just keep in mind, you and Sims could GUESS right or wrong. Its still a wild guess.

I don't think it's a wild guess. I really believe Simms is good at this.

Nobody picking Zach Wilson over Lawrence is good at this.

He’s in the same ballpark as kiper and zierlein and a bunch of others. l
do give him credit for being willing to go against the grain … like he did with Wilson and he’s doing this year with Nix and Maye.

Seems more like shtick than science.

As I’ve mentioned, I have a buddy who follows college football obsessively who completely agrees with him on Nix.

He also had Mond as one of the 3 best qb's in that class

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

I don't think you can let fear enter the equation.

If you like a guy, go get him. You job is likely going to hinge on who you get as your QB, so do whatever you can to get the guy yiu think is the best. Not the last man standing.

And you might as well trade future picks. If you nail the QB pick, you can survive giving up those picks. If you miss on the QB, you likely won't be here to draft anyways...

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: David Levine
I don’t move up for Maye or McCarthy, but I do for Daniels.

Same here.

Williams and/or Daniels are the only two I'd move up for more than a couple of spots.

For me it's a matter of how far I would move up depending on the QB. I wouldn't move up to #3 for McCarthy or Maye. I think moving up to somewhere around 8 to get one of them is preferable to standing pat and taking Pennix.

Agree ... this is also where I stand for the next 5 minutes.

I 'sell out' for Williams or Daniels ... IMO the risk of success is slightly more than the risk of failure ... if you're going to go for it, it has to be under that formula as a minimum.

The Giants #6 and Falcons #8 are likely to pick off one if not two of the second tier guys. With Denver #12 and Raiders #13 possibly trying to jump us into the #10 Jets spot if not higher.

I can live with a strong push for Maye or McCarthy although I think that will take getting to #7 Titans ... depends on if and what that takes. (Atl at #8 probably won't trade with us, Chi at 9 won't trade with us (unless we make an unreasonable offer) – in fact, if I was Chi I would thoroughly enjoy a trade with Den or LV to deprive us of one of the QBs.

In most years, I would stay put because second tier guys are usually just barely first rd guys getting pushed up ... I think Maye and McCarthy (and Penix without the injuries) are strong first rounders. We need one, period.

I'm all over the place with Nix.

I don't care what happens before the draft ... we have to land one of the six in the draft – I hope its under reasonable circumstances but even if we get exploited by the situation, that will be easier to live with than waiting until next year to start this conversation all over again.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

I don't think you can let fear enter the equation.

If you like a guy, go get him. You job is likely going to hinge on who you get as your QB, so do whatever you can to get the guy yiu think is the best. Not the last man standing.

And you might as well trade future picks. If you nail the QB pick, you can survive giving up those picks. If you miss on the QB, you likely won't be here to draft anyways...

All this do whatever it takes to get one player in the draft that you like is ridiculous. There comes a point where it's too expensive. What if the cost is Jefferson, Darrisaw, Addison, and our next 10 first round picks. If that is what it takes do you do it? No and sure that's ridiculous, but it's just to prove the point that you don't do whatever it takes no matter what. There is a point it becomes too expensive.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Just keep in mind, you and Sims could GUESS right or wrong. Its still a wild guess.

I don't think it's a wild guess. I really believe Simms is good at this.

Nobody picking Zach Wilson over Lawrence is good at this.

He’s in the same ballpark as kiper and zierlein and a bunch of others. l
do give him credit for being willing to go against the grain … like he did with Wilson and he’s doing this year with Nix and Maye.

Seems more like shtick than science.

As I’ve mentioned, I have a buddy who follows college football obsessively who completely agrees with him on Nix.

He also had Mond as one of the 3 best qb's in that class

First of all he had Mond 4th. 2nd duh he's going to get some wrong. He's right more than anybody else.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Just keep in mind, you and Sims could GUESS right or wrong. Its still a wild guess.

I don't think it's a wild guess. I really believe Simms is good at this.

Nobody picking Zach Wilson over Lawrence is good at this.

He’s in the same ballpark as kiper and zierlein and a bunch of others. l
do give him credit for being willing to go against the grain … like he did with Wilson and he’s doing this year with Nix and Maye.

Seems more like shtick than science.

As I’ve mentioned, I have a buddy who follows college football obsessively who completely agrees with him on Nix.

Nix has to prove he's not Colt Brennan 2.0.

Gaudy college numbers (45 TDs, 3 INTs, 77%), but it was all screens and RPO. Average air on Nix throws was 6 yards. Everyone else was 9+.

How does Nix prove this? In college he did what Oregon asked of him. It doesn't mean he can or can't do everything else. Teams will need to work him out to see how he looks running their playbook.

He obviously wasn't able to do what Auburn was asking so he transferred and was able to dink and dunk if that's the type of qb you favor.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I don’t move up for Maye or McCarthy, but I do for Daniels.

Same here.

Williams and/or Daniels are the only two I'd move up for more than a couple of spots.

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

i kinda think we'll see all 6 go in the top 11

i hope we are not the ones still taking a QB at 11, because it will feel way too much like the Ponder pick

but that is probably what will happen

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

From the poll at the bottom of the article:

"Should the Vikings trade draft picks #11 and #42 and a 4th round pick this year, along with their 2025 first- and third-round picks for the Commanders #2 pick this year and draft Jayden Daniels?"

That would be exciting if nothing else!

A lot of top 5 qb's bust. Just think Mitch Trubisky, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. I'd rather take my chances with Penix and his knees than trading draft capital for a wing and a prayer.

I don't think you can let fear enter the equation.

If you like a guy, go get him. You job is likely going to hinge on who you get as your QB, so do whatever you can to get the guy yiu think is the best. Not the last man standing.

And you might as well trade future picks. If you nail the QB pick, you can survive giving up those picks. If you miss on the QB, you likely won't be here to draft anyways...

All this do whatever it takes to get one player in the draft that you like is ridiculous. There comes a point where it's too expensive. What if the cost is Jefferson, Darrisaw, Addison, and our next 10 first round picks. If that is what it takes do you do it? No and sure that's ridiculous, but it's just to prove the point that you don't do whatever it takes no matter what. There is a point it becomes too expensive.