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Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/25/2024 5:21:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J And a holding on the kickoff. That deserves a pass! First time I saw the new kickoff was yesterday on my phone - like: wtf? By the exclamation point, I assume you are kidding ... when your stat line has 3 or 4 entries for a game, penalties counting for 2 of those is no bueno.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/25/2024 5:43:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J And a holding on the kickoff. That deserves a pass! First time I saw the new kickoff was yesterday on my phone - like: wtf? By the exclamation point, I assume you are kidding ... when your stat line has 3 or 4 entries for a game, penalties counting for 2 of those is no bueno. I wasn't really kidding. But was putting myself in his place being as it was the first time i saw the new kickoff. Way different. So maybe sort of though. But i didn't see the game (much anyway) so i certainly don't see my judgements counting for anything. And tbc i wasn't throwing out any intentional digs, either

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 2:34:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: BisonFan So who is getting cut Tuesday? Didn't see the game yesterday, but sounds like Cine is going to be gone. Really? To me it sounds like: - game 2 = good - game 3 = incomplete information I think that flores instructed cine to play more free safety - no freelancing - watch out for the deep balls...all the talking heads think that cine is gone, except tyler forness...is kwesi really going to risk being wrong on cine twice?.... imo we keep him on the final 53....

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 8:50:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: BisonFan So who is getting cut Tuesday? Didn't see the game yesterday, but sounds like Cine is going to be gone. Really? To me it sounds like: - game 2 = good - game 3 = incomplete information I think that flores instructed cine to play more free safety - no freelancing - watch out for the deep balls...all the talking heads think that cine is gone, except tyler forness...is kwesi really going to risk being wrong on cine twice?.... imo we keep him on the final 53.... IOW, is Kwesi going to double down on being wrong. Hopefully he is not in charge of setting the roster.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 9:21:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: BisonFan So who is getting cut Tuesday? Didn't see the game yesterday, but sounds like Cine is going to be gone. Really? To me it sounds like: - game 2 = good - game 3 = incomplete information I think that flores instructed cine to play more free safety - no freelancing - watch out for the deep balls...all the talking heads think that cine is gone, except tyler forness...is kwesi really going to risk being wrong on cine twice?.... imo we keep him on the final 53.... IOW, is Kwesi going to double down on being wrong. Hopefully he is not in charge of setting the roster. as you read this, kwesi is shopping cam bynum....

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 9:23:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J And a holding on the kickoff. That deserves a pass! First time I saw the new kickoff was yesterday on my phone - like: wtf? By the exclamation point, I assume you are kidding ... when your stat line has 3 or 4 entries for a game, penalties counting for 2 of those is no bueno. I wasn't really kidding. But was putting myself in his place being as it was the first time i saw the new kickoff. Way different. So maybe sort of though. But i didn't see the game (much anyway) so i certainly don't see my judgements counting for anything. And tbc i wasn't throwing out any intentional digs, either Right I didnt take it as pointed towards me. I didnt watch the game at all, just read the play by play which is as informative as the old vibrating board game with the little plastc players and tiny felt football. Yet fairly or unfairly, it seems to me that Cine has not earned a roster spot. We’ll find out soon enough. ‘Judgements’ sounds so definite, so conscientious … I prefer ‘slippery constantly-shifting opinion that I can squirm out of quickly when wrong.’

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 9:32:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: BisonFan So who is getting cut Tuesday? Didn't see the game yesterday, but sounds like Cine is going to be gone. Really? To me it sounds like: - game 2 = good - game 3 = incomplete information I think that flores instructed cine to play more free safety - no freelancing - watch out for the deep balls...all the talking heads think that cine is gone, except tyler forness...is kwesi really going to risk being wrong on cine twice?.... imo we keep him on the final 53.... IOW, is Kwesi going to double down on being wrong. Hopefully he is not in charge of setting the roster. as you read this, kwesi is shopping cam bynum.... Is that because of Cine? Is that because of Jackson/Ward? There’s going to be a lot of movement in the next 24 hours, I think. I could see trying to suck in a couple of middle to late 2025 draft picks. I dont think sacrificing a couple one year players is a bad idea. IF the backup has shown something in more than one preseason game against scrubs.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 9:40:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: BisonFan So who is getting cut Tuesday? Didn't see the game yesterday, but sounds like Cine is going to be gone. Really? To me it sounds like: - game 2 = good - game 3 = incomplete information I think that flores instructed cine to play more free safety - no freelancing - watch out for the deep balls...all the talking heads think that cine is gone, except tyler forness...is kwesi really going to risk being wrong on cine twice?.... imo we keep him on the final 53.... IOW, is Kwesi going to double down on being wrong. Hopefully he is not in charge of setting the roster. Absolutely. The move would seem to be more about the GM’s job security than the players affected. I think Kwesi has improved from draft to draft. True the 2024 draft which looks really good right now on paper is really 2024+half of 25 … even so, the drafts seem to be getting more impactful as we go along. No need to muck it up with with a double-down ponderish treadwellian effect.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 9:52:10 AM)
Haters gotta hate… I hate KFC.. thank god he is gone.. mullet can go too. Corral is trash..

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 10:06:36 AM)
They sure do I like KFC, but I think he's misguided on his mission and glad he's gone! Saw 10 min of highlights of the game. I thought Hall looked good. Made some good throws but mostly the highlights showed me what little I saw while watching on uzzu, his receivers were wide open! And I didn't see any bad throws on what I watched or the highlights - but I wouldn't would I?

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:05:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J They sure do I like KFC, but I think he's misguided on his mission and glad he's gone! Saw 10 min of highlights of the game. I thought Hall looked good. Made some good throws but mostly the highlights showed me what little I saw while watching on uzzu, his receivers were wide open! And I didn't see any bad throws on what I watched or the highlights - but I wouldn't would I? Hater. OK ... after posting three straight times ... to be followed by two posts throwing out the hater label ... there is no other way than to take that as directed at me. {although Dan's seems self-directed} Even so, if your post had nothing to do with me ... never mind. Otherwise, I would say, if you're going to insult someone with 'hater' or 'floosy' or 'idiot' or the like, make it clear who you are referring to and why. Indirectly throwing a punch from behind someone else's post, comes across as ... very weak sauce. To put it politely. OK back to our regularly scheduled program. Will Ragatz@WillRagatz #Vikings cuts are underway. QB Matt Corral RB DeWayne McBride TE Sammis Reyes RB Mo Ibrahim CB Jaylin Williams TE Neal Johnson WR Justin Hall OLB Owen Porter OL Chuck Filiaga OL Doug Nester OL Matt Cindric OL Spencer Rolland DL Tyler Manoa CB A.J. Green III ... nothing surprising so far.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:08:17 AM)
Nothing to do with you. Full discloser: I thought it was funny Dan calls anyone a hater and below that he hates

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:20:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: BisonFan So who is getting cut Tuesday? Didn't see the game yesterday, but sounds like Cine is going to be gone. Really? To me it sounds like: - game 2 = good - game 3 = incomplete information I think that flores instructed cine to play more free safety - no freelancing - watch out for the deep balls...all the talking heads think that cine is gone, except tyler forness...is kwesi really going to risk being wrong on cine twice?.... imo we keep him on the final 53.... IOW, is Kwesi going to double down on being wrong. Hopefully he is not in charge of setting the roster. as you read this, kwesi is shopping cam bynum.... Is that because of Cine? Is that because of Jackson/Ward? There’s going to be a lot of movement in the next 24 hours, I think. I could see trying to suck in a couple of middle to late 2025 draft picks. I dont think sacrificing a couple one year players is a bad idea. IF the backup has shown something in more than one preseason game against scrubs. I think its because of "wishful thinking".

Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:36:23 AM)
I think its because of "wishful thinking". Doubt it happens but I can see KAM not wanting to pay S big money and Cine is on a rookie contract. I don't think that's their plan but I can kinda see how it would make some sense.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:41:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Nothing to do with you. Full discloser: I thought it was funny Dan calls anyone a hater and below that he hates got it.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:41:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser I think its because of "wishful thinking". Doubt it happens but I can see KAM not wanting to pay S big money and Cine is on a rookie contract. I don't think that's their plan but I can kinda see how it would make some sense. So what's the plan if this is Smith's final year? Metellus (who is more of a S/Nickle/LB hybrid) and...?

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:46:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Nothing to do with you. Full discloser: I thought it was funny Dan calls anyone a hater and below that he hates I make no secret of my “ hate” for KFC.. Never have.. What I see is people hating on a player because if he sticks, and contributes, they are gonna look foolish.. Hater have hated on Hall, Cine, Addison, Favrey, Ponder, Carlson, Moss, Peterson.. On and on… I’m not picking on any one person.. If you think I am, and you name is not Phil or Marty.., Check yourself.. I think Hall was brought in to be what he is.. a solid backup better than Mullet. Cine is processing through a horrible injury, and KAM is trying to get the player that showed promise at Georgia. Since none of us have any control, I choose to see upside and a “ move the **** on”, from Harrison Smith, who likes Cine as well. Until he doesn’t, I say he makes the 53.. because his trade value is less than his usefulness on defense.. We are trade shopping Bynum. As we should.. We need picks for 2025.. Hell we could trade Bradbury or Risner as well..

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:47:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser I think its because of "wishful thinking". Doubt it happens but I can see KAM not wanting to pay S big money and Cine is on a rookie contract. I don't think that's their plan but I can kinda see how it would make some sense. Brzez can print out a contract, complete with two void years and a void year placeholder, in 30 seconds. 'Big money' is unlikely and it doesn't matter to him anyway.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:49:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Haters gotta hate… I hate KFC.. thank god he is gone.. mullet can go too. Corral is trash.. So your first sentence was merely a lead/preview for the rest of your post.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 11:59:37 AM)
What I see is people hating on a player because if he sticks, and contributes, they are gonna look foolish.. A theory that doesn't even make sense.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 12:03:15 PM)
I am not sure why you hate me Dan, I agree with most things you say (although I think you get harsh at times and lose your temper a little too easily), and I am usually on your side on many of the debates, and I really enjoy your writing style, your rants. I am happy KFC is gone, even though he is a nice guy with a great arm, he has seemed to lack a few things that would lead towards greatness in the NFL. McCarthy might have some of the things Kirk lacks, hopefully we get see McCarthy develop in the next few years.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 12:04:19 PM)
Cine was so horribly injured” he was shuffling along millennia douche fashion 2 weeks later with no cast or brace.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 12:05:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Nothing to do with you. Full discloser: I thought it was funny Dan calls anyone a hater and below that he hates I make no secret of my “ hate” for KFC.. Never have.. What I see is people hating on a player because if he sticks, and contributes, they are gonna look foolish.. Hater have hated on Hall, Cine, Addison, Favrey, Ponder, Carlson, Moss, Peterson.. On and on… I’m not picking on any one person.. If you think I am, and you name is not Phil or Marty.., Check yourself.. I think Hall was brought in to be what he is.. a solid backup better than Mullet. Cine is processing through a horrible injury, and KAM is trying to get the player that showed promise at Georgia. Since none of us have any control, I choose to see upside and a “ move the **** on”, from Harrison Smith, who likes Cine as well. Until he doesn’t, I say he makes the 53.. because his trade value is less than his usefulness on defense.. We are trade shopping Bynum. As we should.. We need picks for 2025.. Hell we could trade Bradbury or Risner as well.. Lawd, I hope you didn't think I wrote, "I thought it was funny Dan calls anyone a hater ..." because you mentioned KC. But why would you mention it? Is there anyone who knows Dan Young who doesn't know he hates KC? No! So, seriously why is it important to keep bringing it up? Fake Buddha quote: Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. ps: KC is gone -- move on

Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 12:07:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser I think its because of "wishful thinking". Doubt it happens but I can see KAM not wanting to pay S big money and Cine is on a rookie contract. I don't think that's their plan but I can kinda see how it would make some sense. Brzez can print out a contract, complete with two void years and a void year placeholder, in 30 seconds. 'Big money' is unlikely and it doesn't matter to him anyway. I quote Purple Daily a lot, and I understand they aren't the 'be all', but they were mentioning that it's Bynum's side that might be asking/expecting it. Agree that Brzez can make it work. He always does. They just don't think that S is a high dollar position in BFlo's D.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/26/2024 12:08:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Come was so “horribly injured” he was shuffling along millennia douche fashion 2 weeks later with no cast or brace. Kind of like the Seinfeld episode where some guy was going to be selected for an apartment over George because the guy was a 'Dorian Gray' survivor.

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