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Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 8:23:37 AM)

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It's not foolish love. Packer players love playing in MN, what's the prob with that?

The "too many men on the field" followed by the interception, how can you blame anyone for thinking it'll never happen? But we carry on - especially that all those people are gone, not to be heard from again ...


I don't know if you remember Tavaris or not....but we moved up and down the field and kicked 6 FGs against Indy and the defense shutdown Indy for 3 quarters and still lost. That day was when a change was coming.


No idea what your point is but we kicked 5 FG’s…missed another and only kept Indy in check the 1st half.

So good job making no point with faulty information.


Why was Indy in the game? QB play. If I remember right AP was a force.


160 yards on 29 carries.

TJ was UDFA level and had no business being groomed to be the starter.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 8:41:14 AM)

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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.


3 weeks into the offseason after your favorite QB wasn't resigned? [&:]




Brad H -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 8:58:03 AM)

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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.


3 weeks into the offseason after your favorite QB wasn't resigned? [&:]

I would have drafted Bo Nix last season. That was during Phase 2, apparently. He started all 17 games and made the playoffs.




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 9:44:32 AM)

The backup plan at quarterback will come on or after April 28th. That's when signing another QB won't cost the Vikings one of their 2026 supplemental picks.

Joe Flacco, Ryan Tannahill and Carson Wentz are all viable options that will probably be available on the 28th.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 10:00:50 AM)

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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.


3 weeks into the offseason after your favorite QB wasn't resigned? [&:]

I would have drafted Bo Nix last season. That was during Phase 2, apparently. He started all 17 games and made the playoffs.


You don't say.....an Oregon or USC QB over a Michigan QB. [&:] Just a coincedence.




Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 10:30:18 AM)

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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.


3 weeks into the offseason after your favorite QB wasn't resigned? [&:]

I would have drafted Bo Nix last season. That was during Phase 2, apparently. He started all 17 games and made the playoffs.


You don't say.....an Oregon or USC QB over a Michigan QB. [&:]

Will Brad grade Oregon and USC QBs different now that they are in the Big 10?




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 11:08:47 AM)

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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.


3 weeks into the offseason after your favorite QB wasn't resigned? [&:]

I would have drafted Bo Nix last season. That was during Phase 2, apparently. He started all 17 games and made the playoffs.


I've heard rumors that Bo Nix had thrown exactly zero passes in NFL games before Game 1 last year.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 11:41:12 AM)

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All I am saying is this; it is very arrogant not to have a legitimate backup plan. Last year they had a legitimate backup plan. They won 14 games.

With a better interior o-line, my expectation is 15+ wins. If not, it will be a disappointing season.

What was the backup plan last year? Mullens? Rypien? Darnold being the starter was always the plan, even before McCarthy got hurt. We won 14 games because we didn't need the backup plan.

When we broke camp, Sam Darnold was the backup plan. He may have been tabbed the opening day starter, but there was no doubt that McCarthy was going to be the starter at some point in the very near future.

Thank goodness we had a backup plan.

Sam Darnold was not the backup plan. Do you really think he would have been yanked for McCarthy, given the year he was having?

Sam Darnold was never a long-term plan when they were at camp. McCarthy was the plan, which is why they drafted him.

What happened afterwards was irrelevant because McCarthy got hurt. Nobody thought Darnold was as capable as he ended up being, and I mean NOBODY! Nobody in here. Nobody in there. Nobody anywhere.

Turns out, he was. I was the only one in here claiming we need to give him a chance and that it was easily going to be the most talent he has ever had around him since being drafted. Admittedly, I never thought he would win 14 games.

When you win 14 games with that miserable-ass offensive line, you have some talent. It didn't end well. Nobody denies that.


Why? You wait 2 weeks after we are building an amazing team with that money saved and you double down on the past. Each year is a new year Brad.

I asked what the backup plan was at quarterback. Got no answers, only criticisms.


You are jumping the gun...we haven't even hit the draft yet. That is 3 weeks to go. We aren't even finished with phase 1 of a 3 or 4 phase offseason. You still are acting butt hurt.

Is that right? A 3-or-4 phase plan huh? You care to elaborate on those 3-4 phases, because nobody from Vikings management has ever mentioned them?

We saw what happened to Miami last season when they didn't have a backup plan. The offense was an absolute disaster after Tua got hurt.

But it's good they have this 3-or-4 phase plan that nobody seems to be aware of. I feel better now.


Every offseason is 3 or 4 phases. FA, Draft, Post Draft FA, Pre TC Cuts. You know it and everyone just sees you are butt hurt.

Oh and there was priority for Sam. He was signed in the 1st Phase last year.

I don't get butt-hurt over much. Not sure why you keep saying that.

I'm looking for a backup plan at quarterback. The current starter has zero lifetime completions. I don't think it is too much to ask for. For that, yes, I am butt hurt or perhaps perplexed.


3 weeks into the offseason after your favorite QB wasn't resigned? [&:]

I would have drafted Bo Nix last season. That was during Phase 2, apparently. He started all 17 games and made the playoffs.


I've heard rumors that Bo Nix had thrown exactly zero passes in NFL games before Game 1 last year.


Just another coincedence....[&:]




Lars -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 1:33:37 PM)

We will sign some vet back-up before the season starts, i.e. Flacco, Tannehill. Not gonna roll with JJ and Rypien. Let's chill.

As for McCarthy, I watched every one of his snaps at Umich (most of them up close and in person) and this kid is a baller and he is a leader that has all of the intangibles. I expect him to be a very good NFL QB. Saying he was at a run-first school and can't make big throws, etc. is an easy thing for someone to say if they just take the narrative and didn't watch the kid play. I was elated we drafted him.

Let's see what happens before we freak out.

PS - paying Darnold big money after last year would have been a big mistake, IMHO. His finish to the season was very enlightening. Plus, he's an old Pac-10 guy LMAO.




ebergste -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 2:54:27 PM)

I would be good with either Flacco or Tannehill. Harsh reality is either McCarthy pans out or we are doing a reset with a different rookie QB in 2 years. So back up is primarily to support McCarthy and then a fill in if McCarthy goes down. I like Tannehill better for support and Flacco better for fill in. I would avoid guys like Trey Lance or other untested guys because they offer very little in the support aspect and a question mark in the fill in.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 4:37:37 PM)

I don't think it's Tannehill. They could have already signed him without causing harm to the comp pick formula.




TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 4:47:21 PM)

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We will sign some vet back-up before the season starts, i.e. Flacco, Tannehill. Not gonna roll with JJ and Rypien. Let's chill.

As for McCarthy, I watched every one of his snaps at Umich (most of them up close and in person) and this kid is a baller and he is a leader that has all of the intangibles. I expect him to be a very good NFL QB. Saying he was at a run-first school and can't make big throws, etc. is an easy thing for someone to say if they just take the narrative and didn't watch the kid play. I was elated we drafted him.

Let's see what happens before we freak out.

PS - paying Darnold big money after last year would have been a big mistake, IMHO. His finish to the season was very enlightening. Plus, he's an old Pac-10 guy LMAO.

Thanks for the insight Lars. I said heading into game 17 that the next two games would tell us more about Darnold than the first 16. They were as you said, very enlightening.




marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 7:51:08 PM)

We should be thankful the last 2 games lined up like that, and played out the way they did so we didn't waste a large amount of money on Darnold.




stfrank -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/3/2025 9:02:40 PM)

Watching a replay of Randy's coming out party in Green Bay on NFL network right now. Moss was such smooth athlete, so fun to watch.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (4/4/2025 7:25:14 AM)

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I don't think it's Tannehill. They could have already signed him without causing harm to the comp pick formula.


Could've signed Rodgers too.

They have someone in mind. We will find out after 3pm the Monday after the draft. That's my prediction.




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