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marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 3:05:49 PM)

I am glad to hear you're done with his topic Bill, as you weren't making valid points, and were only strengthening my position. You provided a lot of assumptions, one of them being Chicago using timeouts, many teams don't use timeouts with 50 seconds left, and leading by more than a FG. They probably hope the offense boggles it, they don't want to give the offense more time for planning, make them rush things, and they probably don't mind, just like the Beard didn't, that the offense scores too quickly.

Glad to hear you're moving on to a layman's psychological evaluation of me, which is probably just projection on your part. I think you're lying about the private messages, just as you continued to bring up this topic.

Interesting you view that my points are getting shot down, when I feel you help fortify them.



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 3:15:23 PM)

Tom, besides not being humorous and being pathetic with your projection, here is what you need to understand:

KOC blaming the special teams coach doesn't free KOC from blame for not running the ball on 1st down with just 50 seconds left, and running out the clock so the Bears don't have 50 seconds to answer with a FG.

You want to talk about Breece Hall again ? I already admitted I was wrong about obtaining him this season because of McCarthy not being far along, and Aaron Jones being less injured than I thought, but Hall would be one of several different RBs that could pair well with Mason during the off-season, if they thought Aaron Jones was nearing the point of losing a step.



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 3:36:58 PM)

Bill is the mean one?

Maybe he's more forthright about it, while Marty shifts between passive-aggressive, condescending sarcasm and elitism.



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 3:43:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Bill is the mean one?

Maybe he's more forthright about it, while Marty shifts between passive-aggressive, condescending sarcasm and elitism.


So you agree they are very similar in that when they argue they can't stop?
[&:]



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 4:42:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I get that when someone says they are done with the silliness, the other person may make their final post about the issue that could include a potshot, a summary, or just an agreement to also drop it. That's the usual way things end up.

However, Marty's MO -- shown once again -- is to string together 4-5 posts where he thinks he is rubbing it in. IMO, that just speaks to his character as a person... or lack thereof.

Maybe it is due to his, as he calls it, "big ego". Everyone is different, for example highly successful and astute people can have that. However, in Marty's case his numerous pile on posts after the fact, as well as his big ego, likely stem from a deep-rooted insecurity and/or someone missing some filters.


TBH you two are a lot alike. You just attempt to be meaner.


The results on here have suggested that. But note you are a lot like Marty in that you get shot down just as often (predominately nowadays in another type of thread on the site).


Nah...you just lean the opposite way politically and believe that.
But that is fine...you do you.

I post one reply with Marty and it usually is over (because I don't try to dig in or be mean). Then there is you and Marty being compared----undeniable proof in the last 5 pages of posts. You can't stop. You are so much alike. Twin posters except Marty isn't the arse or mean one.[&:]


No, you get shot down there every time you post and it's awesome.

As for THIS thread, I could not care less about your posting style. And despite your angelic insinuation, you've dragged things out for 'pages' as well... multiple times. So don't act all high and mighty as if you are above the fray.

Arse? I'm more than happy to reply in kind and drag this out with you, especially since you popped in out of the blue. Just let me know how you would like to proceed. Or I'll make the determination based on how you reply.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 4:46:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Bill is the mean one?

Maybe he's more forthright about it, while Marty shifts between passive-aggressive, condescending sarcasm and elitism.


So you agree they are very similar in that when they argue they can't stop?
[&:]



Specifically, you came out of the peanut gallery to toss shots why?

Speaking of twins, you and Marty sure use the [&:] a lot after your insults.



Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 5:08:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

Tom, besides not being humorous and being pathetic with your projection, here is what you need to understand:

KOC blaming the special teams coach doesn't free KOC from blame for not running the ball on 1st down with just 50 seconds left, and running out the clock so the Bears don't have 50 seconds to answer with a FG.

You want to talk about Breece Hall again ? I already admitted I was wrong about obtaining him this season because of McCarthy not being far along, and Aaron Jones being less injured than I thought, but Hall would be one of several different RBs that could pair well with Mason during the off-season, if they thought Aaron Jones was nearing the point of losing a step.

KOC venting on the sideline has nothing to do with putting blame for the loss on someone else. He is simply recognizing how bad that play is at that moment.

Accept it or don’t. Don’t really care.



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 6:31:39 PM)

A football team, and buildings hit by airplanes, don’t perform as marty believes is “ THE WAY THINGS MUST BE”..

Therefore it’s all a massive conspiracy to create a different reality that proves he is ALWAYS RIGHT.

“ oh they easily could have run one or twice to milk the clock, then scored a touchdown..”

That’s just ****ing stupid..

You don’t waste downs when you need a touch.. a figgy, yes.. a touchdown, no…

The ST and then the defense had control of that outcome.

Any other “ stories” are pure bullshit.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 6:47:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A football team, and buildings hit by airplanes, don’t perform as marty believes is “ THE WAY THINGS MUST BE”..

Therefore it’s all a massive conspiracy to create a different reality that proves he is ALWAYS RIGHT.

“ oh they easily could have run one or twice to milk the clock, then scored a touchdown..”

That’s just ****ing stupid..

You don’t waste downs when you need a touch.. a figgy, yes.. a touchdown, no…

The ST and then the defense had control of that outcome.

Any other “ stories” are pure bullshit.


Re the bolded, that's ironic. I was thinking since Martyr keeps saying I'm a bully, well why not act like one. Or merely point out related whackadoodle thoughts.

Oh wait, let me get in the obligatory [&:]

Back to the bolded, that clearly refers to Marty's repeated assertions - posted about every six months for years - that 9/11 was an inside job and, wait for it, the explosions in Building 7 caused the WTC Buildings to collapse!

[&:]

This is who he is.

[&:]



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 6:54:01 PM)

And Phil, let me tell 'ya... I have some stories ready to publish about you (hint, Frankfurt GE, stolen xxx servers, US Army rescue is a nice lead in). I suggest you go back to the bleacher seats and sit this one out.

Edit, for the derelicts who utilize this:

[&:]



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:10:07 PM)

Bill

Phil nailed it with arse, you are an arse, and probably proud of that label. I don't find you particularly mean, more snarky and as David would call you: passive aggressive, sometimes just aggressively snarky and trying to bully.

You think of yourself as some sort of a self appointed director of what you feel how things should go, and if a group of 3 or 4 go along with what you say, then you must be some sort of director of reality for this message board, the holder of it's parameters. [&:]

I will continue use the [&:], because you really are a hoot.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:10:57 PM)

OMG, the bully and meanie just imported evidence showing our advanced and altruistic mindsets are fables that we steadfastly project on the Vikings thread! How dare him. He is so mean! My "big ego" says stop you bully!

EDIT: NOTE FOR POSTERS WHO READ THREADS CHRONOLOGICALLY: WHAT FOLLOWS IS A DUMB BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MARTY AND MYSELF. i SUGGEST YOU SKIP AT LEAST THE NEXT SEVERAL PAGES.



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:11:46 PM)

I posted the previous post, before your name calling people that use [&:], as derelicts.

That further illustrates my earlier points about your name calling (which you claim not to do), and bullying.



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:13:21 PM)

"I ain't ever gonna stop, Bill !" - William Montgomery from Kill Tony.

And I won't back down to your bullying and insults Bill



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:14:50 PM)

Bill, I enjoy your insults and bullying on the political threads, because I share most of the same political views that you have expressed.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:22:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill

Phil nailed it with arse, you are an arse, and probably proud of that label. I don't find you particularly mean, more snarky and as David would call you: passive aggressive, sometimes just aggressively snarky and trying to bully.

You think of yourself as some sort of a self appointed director of what you feel how things should go, and if a group of 3 or 4 go along with what you say, then you must be some sort of director of reality for this message board, the holder of it's parameters. [&:]

I will continue use the [&:], because you really are a hoot.


Who is this David who called me that? Or is that another one or your dumbass lies?

Self appointed director? Suffice to say your 3rd episode of the fantasy trilogy better be good! Throw in more made up crap to spice it up or get lost.

This 'group' as you call them did NOT "go along" with me. You keep saying that. They formed their own independent thoughts on the matter and expressed them. As it so happened, 100% (your new term) of them disagreed with you. You just cannot accept they made their own valid takes!

And if I was some sort of director of the board, my only action would be to ban you permanently on the grounds of insanity.

Tell us more about 9/11 Martyr!



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:29:16 PM)

A football team, and buildings hit by airplanes, don’t perform as marty believes is “ THE WAY THINGS MUST BE”..

Therefore it’s all a massive conspiracy to create a different reality that proves he is ALWAYS RIGHT.

My belief that KOC should have run the ball after the Nailor catch, has nothing to do with any sort of conspiracy, it has to do with my wanting the Vikings to win. Tying that to conspiracy is a foolish reach on your part.

I have admitted to be wrong on many things in the past, and I don't believe I am always right, my prediction rate runs 40%, and believe strongly in being honest, and that can be a fault. Bill says I need more filters, and that might be one of the things where he could be right, outside of the political threads, where I routinely agree with him.

I have never said I believed 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government, for me, learning about it was mostly entertainment. Millions of people believe that, and quite a high percentage of people in other Countries believe it. I only believe it as a possibility, and it has less to do with how the buildings fell (although there are quite a few oddities associated with it), and more to do with the money trail, the follow up wars for oil, the involvement of currency, how the U.S. response was brought to the American people, etc ....


“ oh they easily could have run one or twice to milk the clock, then scored a touchdown..”

That’s just ****ing stupid..

You don’t waste downs when you need a touch.. a figgy, yes.. a touchdown, no…

The ST and then the defense had control of that outcome.

Any other “ stories” are pure bullshit."

So anyone that doesn't agree with Dan, is just bullshit, or has a bullshit opinion, or is just **** stupid. Only Dan's opinion is the correct interpretation of all events. So if a team is down by a TD, according to Dan, they should never waste downs running the ball, taking time off the clock, or slowing the other teams pass rush, that would always just be ****ing stupid. Got it.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:29:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

I posted the previous post, before your name calling people that use [&:], as derelicts.

That further illustrates my earlier points about your name calling (which you claim not to do), and bullying.



Yes, you and Phil are derelicts. And yes, I am NOW going to absolutely name call. As you've done to me for two weeks. Deal with it.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:30:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

"I ain't ever gonna stop, Bill !" - William Montgomery from Kill Tony.

And I won't back down to your bullying and insults Bill


That's a yawner. Get some new material.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:32:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

A football team, and buildings hit by airplanes, don’t perform as marty believes is “ THE WAY THINGS MUST BE”..

Therefore it’s all a massive conspiracy to create a different reality that proves he is ALWAYS RIGHT.

My belief that KOC should have run the ball after the Nailor catch, has nothing to do with any sort of conspiracy, it has to do with my wanting the Vikings to win. Tying that to conspiracy is a foolish reach on your part.

I have never said I believed 9/11 was a conspiracy by our government, for me, learning about it was mostly entertainment. Millions of people believe that, and quite a high percentage of people in other Countries believe it. I only believe it as a possibility, and it has less to do with how the buildings fell (although there are quite a few oddities associated with it), and more to do with the money trail, the follow up wars for oil, the involvement of currency, how the U.S. response was brought to the American people, etc ....


“ oh they easily could have run one or twice to milk the clock, then scored a touchdown..”

That’s just ****ing stupid..

You don’t waste downs when you need a touch.. a figgy, yes.. a touchdown, no…

The ST and then the defense had control of that outcome.

Any other “ stories” are pure bullshit."

So anyone that doesn't agree with Dan, is just bullshit, or has a bullshit opinion, or is just **** stupid. Only Dan's opinion is the correct interpretation of all events. So if a team is down by a TD, according to Dan, they should never waste downs running the ball, taking time off the clock, or slowing the other teams pass rush, that would always just be ****ing stupid. Got it.



OK, you've got to quote and bold properly or it's just much. Was there even a point there?



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:35:21 PM)

I have responses to Dan quotes, I could see where it can be hard to see exactly what Dan said, and my responses to it.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:36:27 PM)

Still another instance of Marty calling someone's take BS. Congrats, you've refuted everyone, even those who made some not so direct comments like JT2.

Reminds me of DL saying years ago ~ if someone flips you off in traffic, they might be a jerk... but if everyone flips you off maybe YOU are the jerk.

Look inward Martyr, you are being figuratively flipped off and are the jerk.



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:37:34 PM)


That's a yawner. Get some new material.

Don't care if it makes you yawn, I ain't ever gonna stop Bill.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:38:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

I have responses to Dan quotes, I could see where it can be hard to see exactly what Dan said, and my responses to it.



Yikes. There is a feature called "Edit" whereby you can edit your post. Imagine that!



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (11/19/2025 7:40:02 PM)

Bill, I was quoting what Dan said, it was Dan calling anyone else's opinion "bullshit" or ""****ing stupid".

Sorry that you had so much trouble figuring out what Dan said, and what was my response.

You could go back and just look at Dan's post, if this is so difficult for you.



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