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69in09 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (2/17/2014 1:01:15 AM)

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Denver's defense took a major step backward this year. During the previous season their defense was ranked #2 in overall yardage and #4 in points given up. This season they were #19 in yardage and #22 in points given up. It was painfully obvious in the SB just how bad the Denver defense was compared to the Seattle D. Seattle got consistent pressure, played receivers tight, made tackles and forced turnovers. Denver's defense did almost none of that. Surprisingly, Seattle's offense was only ranked #17 in yardage (behind the Vikings at #13!), but against the porous Denver defense, they looked like one of the best offenses in the league. You can lay accolades on Seattle for success in all phases of the game, but a major factor in their offensive success was due to the fact that Denver's defense quite frankly sucked.


Their defense wasn't that bad. Their D stuck the Chargers and the Pats in the playoffs.

IMO, their offense failed them in the SB.

It's worth noting those two playoff games were at home, and Mile High stadium also helps give them a home field advantage due to the slightly thinner air at that altitude.

If their "defense wasn't that bad", then that would imply that the Denver defense essentially slacked off for most of the regular season, then played a couple of home playoff games at their real ability level, before ultimately laying an egg in the Superbowl.

By contrast, I think a more plausible scenario is that they had a weak defense all along, but stepped up enough in their home playoff games, before finally reverting to form in the Superbowl.

Their defense issues didn't get much focus because their high-scoring offense effectively masked the problem during the season.


The special teams allowed a TD. The Offense gave up a pick six and a safety. Additionally the Denver offense turned the ball over another two times deep in their own territory.

Their defense performed pretty much as expected in the Super Bowl.

Much like the 98 Vikings, their offense failed them.



John Childress -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (2/17/2014 5:21:39 AM)

The 98 Vikings offense gave their defense a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter

Terrible comparison

The Broncos offense didn't even get a 1st down until the 2nd Q and didn't score until the end of the 3rd

The Vikings offense put up 27 points against a very good defense

The 98 defense choked

You are up 2 scores in the 4th Q you have to close that game out



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (2/17/2014 9:15:54 AM)

Cincy - should go DOWN with the loss of Zimmer

Houston - could take huge step UP with 1 of the top 3 QBs

SD - Should go UP, they were good in December

Arizona - I'm not sure Palmer will ever win a playoff game, and would be surprised if they won 10 games next year, that is probably their ceiling, I think they'll go backwards



69in09 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (2/17/2014 1:31:27 PM)

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The 98 Vikings offense gave their defense a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter

Terrible comparison

The Broncos offense didn't even get a 1st down until the 2nd Q and didn't score until the end of the 3rd

The Vikings offense put up 27 points against a very good defense

The 98 defense choked

You are up 2 scores in the 4th Q you have to close that game out



Not really sure how a defense "chokes"? Does the whole defense just get nervous? We were minus Randle and had no LBs left.

Our offense choked. Denny took a knee and RC looked like a lost child with the game on the line.

In the SB the Broncos D performed pretty much as expected.

Their vaulted "greatest offense ever" scored 8 and directly gave up 9.

In both instances they were teams that had #1 offenses and middle of the pack defenses.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 12:31:09 AM)

I predict NONE of these teams will win next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis.



Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 12:33:02 AM)

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I predict NONE of these teams will win next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis.



Brilliant Marty!

I predict that the sun comes up tomorrow, and the Cubs don't win the World Series this year.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 12:36:42 AM)

I wasn't finished Kurt.

I just don't think teams come out of nowhere to win a SB. When was the last time a team that finished .500 or below came back the next year to win the SB ?

That leaves:

New England, Indianapolis, Denver, San Diego, Green Bay, Carolina, New Orleans, Seattle, San Francisco

I strongly believe 1 of those 9 teams will win the Super Bowl next year. I don't think the other 23 teams have a prayer. I thought about including Pittsburgh, Baltimore and NY Giants, but all 3 probably have too many holes to come back and be a serious contender.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 12:54:36 AM)

Kurt

I thought I could post the follow up post within 5 minutes, and that there wouldn't be someone else's post in between the 2. They were meant to be together, in sequence, but I did want them to be separate posts. No big deal, it just sort of messed with the continuity, but you had no idea where it was going, and sort of got in the middle of it. [sm=club.gif]

As I re-read it, it's all good Kurt, you sort of reinforced the whole idea, strengthened it. [sm=thumb.gif]

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Ian Joseph -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 11:02:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

I predict NONE of these teams will win next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis.


I guess we should pencil in one of them as the champion.



Ian Joseph -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 11:03:39 AM)

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I wasn't finished Kurt.

I just don't think teams come out of nowhere to win a SB. When was the last time a team that finished .500 or below came back the next year to win the SB ?



NYG.



Bruce M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 11:11:08 AM)

I predict that Jacksonville, Raiders, Cleveland and Buffalo will not be in the super bowl.

More to come in later posts.



Prescott -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 11:20:55 AM)

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I predict that Jacksonville, Raiders, Cleveland and Buffalo will not be in the super bowl.

More to come in later posts.


Yeah, someone once said that there's no reason to make picks early. You should wait as long as possible and then take Marty up on his bet. [;)]



thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 2:11:05 PM)

I predict ONE of these teams will win next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, Green Bay, New England, Denver, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Indianapolis, San Diego, Carolina



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 2:12:36 PM)

I narrowed it down to 9 teams, I'd like to see YOU do that.

Would you end up with the SAME 9 teams that I chose ?



thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 3:29:46 PM)

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I narrowed it down to 9 teams, I'd like to see YOU do that.

Would you end up with the SAME 9 teams that I chose ?


I'll do you even better.

I predict TWO of these teams will play each other in next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, Green Bay, New England, Denver, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Indianapolis, San Diego, Carolina



Bruce M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 3:35:51 PM)

Wait a minute. I wasn't finished.

I also predict Miami will not be in the super bowl.



Prescott -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 4:30:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

I narrowed it down to 9 teams, I'd like to see YOU do that.

Would you end up with the SAME 9 teams that I chose ?


Most people pick the two teams to get to the Super Bowl. But you're Marty, so I can't expect you to pick just one, or two, or three or four. Plus a couple honorable mentions.



thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 4:40:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: marty

I narrowed it down to 9 teams, I'd like to see YOU do that.

Would you end up with the SAME 9 teams that I chose ?


I'll do you even better.

I predict TWO of these teams will play each other in next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, Green Bay, New England, Denver, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Indianapolis, San Diego, Carolina


I've figured out a system that refines even that prediction, a can't miss winner

I predict ONE of these teams :

Philadelphia, Dallas, NY Giants, Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, Green Bay, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Carolina

will play ONE of these teams in next years' Super Bowl:

NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Houston, KC, Oakland, New England, Denver, San Diego, Indianapolis



drviking -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 4:46:06 PM)

Guaranteed...Stone Cold LOCK.....

seahawks will NOT play the 9ers in the superbowl next year



take it to the bank



you are welcome



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 5:12:09 PM)

Most people pick the two teams to get to the Super Bowl. But you're Marty, so I can't expect you to pick just one, or two, or three or four. Plus a couple honorable mentions.

I've gone further than just saying what 2 teams will be in the Super Bowl, I'm saying 1 of those 9 teams will WIN the Super Bowl. You can't win the SB, unless you're IN it.

The following years' SB will be much harder to narrow down, there might be a few more teams that have a chance, might be a cinderella team. I don't think this coming season we'll see a cinderella team win the SB. It's pretty much going to be one of these 9 teams:

New England, Indianapolis, Denver, San Diego, Green Bay, Carolina, New Orleans, Seattle, San Francisco



Prescott -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 5:19:41 PM)

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I've gone further than just saying what 2 teams will be in the Super Bowl, I'm saying 1 of those 9 teams will WIN the Super Bowl.


Math is hard, herp derp



Ian Joseph -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 5:19:53 PM)

Way to go on a limb there.. All eight divisional playoff participants and Green Bay.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 5:26:51 PM)

I'd like to see someone else 'go out on a limb' and narrow down the field of who will win the SB to 9 teams.

I think it's a somewhat unusual year where it's not all that hard to narrow down the teams that will be in contention. I just don't see any of the other 23 teams as really having much of a chance.



Ian Joseph -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 5:37:56 PM)

Why go out on a limb in March? Free agency is five days old and the draft is what, 50 days away? Its foolish to make 2014 Super Bowl predictions right now, safe/easy picks or those that are bold.



Ian Joseph -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (3/15/2014 5:39:59 PM)

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I'd like to see someone else 'go out on a limb' and narrow down the field of who will win the SB to 9 teams.

I think it's a somewhat unusual year where it's not all that hard to narrow down the teams that will be in contention. I just don't see any of the other 23 teams as really having much of a chance.


People were saying that about Kansas City a year ago about this time. Ditto with Carolina.

Write off 3/4s of the NFL if you want to.. again, its foolish in March.



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