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marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/22/2012 5:15:53 PM)

My bad Ricky, I was thinking you were going with those teams winning by that many points, and should have noticed you had every number from 16 down to 1. For a second I was even thinking it meant you were predicting that many points off the spread, which would be interesting.

That makes more sense, as you went with Carolina, but not with much confidence, and that is understandable. I wouldn't have a lot of confidence in Wash nor Indy as they are both playing with rookie QBs.

IF the Vikes win, somehow, I'm going to believe they have a real shot at the playoffs.



Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/23/2012 9:59:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Do you think the Vikes are the type of team that will play to the level of competition, Kurt?


I've seen nothing in the first two games that indicates we can hang with the contenders.



Actually it's probably said with a little tongue in cheek Todd.... Many in here are so reactionary, that there opinions will be 180 degrees if we somehow win this game. That being said, I don't see any matchup (Other than perhaps our Dline getting to Smith) that favors us at all. Watched a special on Vernon Davis, and he should really do huge damage to us down the middle. We've competed pretty closely with two of the worst teams in the league (Are 1-1) and haven't played well. I'm sure every Viking would admit that. We will see today if we have much/ any GOOD football in us at all?



Prescott -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/23/2012 10:15:05 AM)

I think if the Vikings do beat the Niners people should be reactionary. They're coming off two bad losing seasons, they have played two bad teams, and beaten one in OT, and lost to the other. The signs of hope are few and far between, a couple players individual performances but that's about it. Many people are not optimistic that we have the right coach or GM, and there are still questions about the QB. They have the potential to be in as bad a spot as a team can be, needing to start over with new management, coaches and players.

The Niners are a top team, having gone far in the playoffs last year and looking like one of the best teams in the league. Beating them would be a huge win, probably the biggest in 3 years. It would say a lot about the ability of this team, with the current coaches/management/players to rebuild. They will have to come together in all phases and coaching to beat the Niners. It would give a huge boost of confidence that this QB, coach and management can right the sinking ship.



Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/23/2012 3:19:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

Do you think the Vikes are the type of team that will play to the level of competition, Kurt?


I've seen nothing in the first two games that indicates we can hang with the contenders.



Actually it's probably said with a little tongue in cheek Todd.... Many in here are so reactionary, that there opinions will be 180 degrees if we somehow win this game. That being said, I don't see any matchup (Other than perhaps our Dline getting to Smith) that favors us at all. Watched a special on Vernon Davis, and he should really do huge damage to us down the middle. We've competed pretty closely with two of the worst teams in the league (Are 1-1) and haven't played well. I'm sure every Viking would admit that. We will see today if we have much/ any GOOD football in us at all?



Should have said; Yes, I believe they are. [;)]

I don't know how anyone could possible see that coming. A few scragglers put the Vikes up for a win, good on ya.

Huge huge win.



Rob Viking -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/24/2012 10:42:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

Looking at our schedule this is my first prediction.

vs Jax W - Our DLine will swarm Gabbert to a handful of spikes and terrible passes. Low scoring 20-10

at IND L - Luck has a strong game vs our porous pass D after he struggled in the first game vs Chicago. Surprisingly high scoring game. 31-27

vs SF W - Surprise win here. The 49ers porous OLine strugles and we get to Smith. Ponder makes smart decisiosn and only has 1 TO, Walsh hits his first GW FG. 20-17 

at DET L - Ponder has his worst game of the season, sacked 5 times and 3 TO. 34-13

vs TEN W - Handle Johnson, and Ponder bounces back with a solid performance. AD has best game of the season with 150+ yds and 2 TDs. 27-17

at Wash L - We always beat them when it doesn't count (like last 2 seasons and lose to them when it matters like (1987, 1992, 2004, 2007). This is somewhere in between, but i think a desperate Skins teams gets what might be there first win here. 23-20  

vs ARI W - We'll handle teams with poor QBs at home most of the time and this is no different. 24-17

vs TB W Prime time game first one in the Metrodome since Favre's first game vs the Pack. The corwd gets amped up. We get up to a big lead and Freeman leads the Bucs back but it's not ebough. 24-20

at Sea L - 10 days to prepare helps but in hostile environment Ponder struggles. Their DLine destorys our OLine and Rice has 2 TDs. 24-10

vs Det W - Finally end the division losing streak. Get to Stafford even though he puts up 400 yards. Harvin has his best game of the season and scores a hat trick; 1 TD reception, 1 rushing and returns a KO for a TD. 31-24

Bye

at Chi L - This is a given every year. The defense gets gashed on the ground and the offense struggle in the red zone. 31-13

at GB L - Previous loss damages confidence and Packers passing game too much. Ponder struggles with blitzes. 38-17

vs Chi L - A once promising season begins to unravel. Cutler throws 4 TDs. 34-17.

at Stl L - Lose a tough game vs an improved Rams team. AD has a big game but so does Stecen Jackson and the Rams DLine rules the day. 20-17.

at Hou L - Texans on a mini losing streak try to right the ship before the playoffs. Depth a concern at this point. 30-21

vs GB L - Might be a win if the Packers have clinched home field. In what would/should probably be Frazier's last game the boys play hard but lose on a late Rodgers TD pass. 28-24 


Count me in as a scraggler who believes!



Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/24/2012 10:55:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

I predict a huge change in attitude on this board, and in the media if the Vikes somehow pull out this game. Huge!


Well yer just a 21st century Nostradamus now aren't ya. [8D]



You can call me "Dam" for short...... [;)]



thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/24/2012 11:12:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

I predict a huge change in attitude on this board, and in the media if the Vikes somehow pull out this game. Huge!


Well yer just a 21st century Nostradamus now aren't ya. [8D]



You can call me "Dam" for short...... [;)]


Damn!



thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/24/2012 11:14:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

Looking at our schedule this is my first prediction.

vs Jax W - Our DLine will swarm Gabbert to a handful of spikes and terrible passes. Low scoring 20-10

at IND L - Luck has a strong game vs our porous pass D after he struggled in the first game vs Chicago. Surprisingly high scoring game. 31-27

vs SF W - Surprise win here. The 49ers porous OLine strugles and we get to Smith. Ponder makes smart decisiosn and only has 1 TO, Walsh hits his first GW FG. 20-17 

at DET L - Ponder has his worst game of the season, sacked 5 times and 3 TO. 34-13

vs TEN W - Handle Johnson, and Ponder bounces back with a solid performance. AD has best game of the season with 150+ yds and 2 TDs. 27-17

at Wash L - We always beat them when it doesn't count (like last 2 seasons and lose to them when it matters like (1987, 1992, 2004, 2007). This is somewhere in between, but i think a desperate Skins teams gets what might be there first win here. 23-20  

vs ARI W - We'll handle teams with poor QBs at home most of the time and this is no different. 24-17

vs TB W Prime time game first one in the Metrodome since Favre's first game vs the Pack. The corwd gets amped up. We get up to a big lead and Freeman leads the Bucs back but it's not ebough. 24-20

at Sea L - 10 days to prepare helps but in hostile environment Ponder struggles. Their DLine destorys our OLine and Rice has 2 TDs. 24-10

vs Det W - Finally end the division losing streak. Get to Stafford even though he puts up 400 yards. Harvin has his best game of the season and scores a hat trick; 1 TD reception, 1 rushing and returns a KO for a TD. 31-24

Bye

at Chi L - This is a given every year. The defense gets gashed on the ground and the offense struggle in the red zone. 31-13

at GB L - Previous loss damages confidence and Packers passing game too much. Ponder struggles with blitzes. 38-17

vs Chi L - A once promising season begins to unravel. Cutler throws 4 TDs. 34-17.

at Stl L - Lose a tough game vs an improved Rams team. AD has a big game but so does Stecen Jackson and the Rams DLine rules the day. 20-17.

at Hou L - Texans on a mini losing streak try to right the ship before the playoffs. Depth a concern at this point. 30-21

vs GB L - Might be a win if the Packers have clinched home field. In what would/should probably be Frazier's last game the boys play hard but lose on a late Rodgers TD pass. 28-24 


Count me in as a scraggler who believes!


Yer gonna have to step up your predictions for the last 6 weeks!



David F. -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/24/2012 11:50:40 AM)

Nice predictions Rob Viking!



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/24/2012 4:07:34 PM)

I was right about the Vikes having a halftime lead, but I was in complete shock with the 2nd half [:-] [:-] [:-]

I was right about the Vikes 1st 2 games, but did NOT expect this. Rob I hope you're wrong about next week. I had the Vikes losing to SF, but pulling a big upset at Detroit. I think the Vikes will get a lift getting Simpson, but now I don't know if it will be enough.

As much as winning at home against SF could be a springboard, I think winning a game on the road against a team that was in the playoffs last year (Detroit), could be a HUGE springboard for the rest of the season as far as the Vikes feeling they can win on the road. Right now the Vikes are 0-1 on the road, and if they can't beat Indy with a rookie QB, road wins are likely to be hard to come by.

Rob

I like the fact that you have been so accurate, but I don't like the 6-10 season you have mapped out. I had 7-9 with the Vikes losing to SF, but I had them beating Detroit at Detroit, which will make all that a wash if they lose next week. But beating a team as good as SF has me hopeful that 8-8 or better is now realistic.

Ricky

I was right in that I didn't have much confidence in Washington and Indy to win with their rookie QBs, even though they were at home, and they DID both lose. You were right in second guessing your confidence in Indy and NO. I thought Chicago would bounce back, but they didn't win by as much as I thought they would. So you were also right to second guess THEM as well. There were a few surprises this week.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/25/2012 10:24:48 PM)

Looking at the scores from the 1st 3 weeks, and what I was thinking about the games going into them, I don't think the replacement refs are 'swaying' ANY games, which means I think there is a serious opportunity RIGHT NOW to make some money betting games.

The writer that wrote something about bettors backing off of betting games because you don't know what you'll get with replacement refs is an IDIOT !!!

The replacement refs appear to be NOT 'swaying' games, and many times are trying to even out calls on both sides.

This is the time for SUPER TEASERS !!!

Super Teasers are around 8-10 points off the spread, but you need to hit many games to get decent odds. I hit a 14 team teasers years ago (the regular officials), $100 paid $2000, plus the $100 back. Anyone living in Vegas could do this right now, and likely make some easy money. The trick is, don't be on the wrong side of a blow out.

I think I (and many of you, some of you guys and gals would probably do BETTER than myself) easily could have it a similar teaser the 1st 2 weeks, and also maybe this last week if I had either stayed off of SF-MN, or smartly went with Minnesota +17 (regular spread was 7, you usually add 10).

I wish I had an offshore account, or had the money to go to Vegas and put some money on these games (on Super Teasers ONLY, assuming they still have them). I think this is golden opportunity to anyone who knows how to take advantage of the NFLs' use of replacement officials.



J Jeffreys -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/26/2012 5:42:41 AM)

Beating the Lions in Detroit will require a very different game plan from the SF game assuming Stafford plays which he will. Pressure the QB even if it means getting creative. Put him on the ground. Use more nickel. Dare the Lions to run. This is the perfect game to get Simpson back. Stretch the field. Go deep early but not often. Take the crowd out early. Use AP to set up play action. The Lions secondary is pretty bad. No INTs and few passes defended. Ponder should be able to carve this up. I expect the Lions to cover the short and intermediate routes well daring Ponder to go deep. He'll need to hit on those opportunities. As always if the Vikings win the turnover battle they win the game. This might be the week for a gadget play like a fake punt or surprise onside kick.

Last week called for a more conservative plan. This week, the Vikings will probably need to force things more in order to win. Kickoffs need to be touchbacks.

Rob Viking, kudos on your predictions so far. Bold and correct. Better be very wrong this week.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/26/2012 8:42:40 AM)

It's time for Rob to be wrong in a BIG way !

If in Vegas, I would have been hoping the Packers would be favored by about 3, so the money line wouldn't be so big. The line is 7 1/2, I would have expected more betting on N.O., the spread probably moving to 6 later in the week. With the regular refs, I would have expected the officiating would favor the Pack early, and maybe early 4th quarter to 'sway' the game towards GB covering the spread.

Assuming the replacement officials aren't 'swaying' any games, even with the huge spread, a person could make some pretty easy money betting the money line on the Packers. The Packers actually have a defense, and I think the Saints miss Tracy Porter. You would have to bet $390 to win $100 on the Pack, but then you don't have to give up ANY points. The Packers win by 1 point and you've won the bet. I think that would be easy money, and if I had the money, would lay down $3900 to win $1000. That's better than any kind of interest you could get, and a nice return on investment, only taking a little over 3 hours to get it.

About the ONLY way I see the Saints winning, is if they are REALLY agressive, the game is a track meet, and the Packers slow starting offense can't keep up. But I don't think we'll see that, the Packers haven't scored in the 1st quarter yet, so I expect them to come out fast, just like I predicted Ponder would this last week (though I didn't expect the Vikes to hang on to the lead in the 2nd half).

IF the Saints/Packers game is close you can best MOST calls, anything borderline throughout the game will go in the Packers favor. And at the end of the game, everything (noncalls and calls) will get called (or NOT called) in the Packers' favor, even if it's a wrong call.



Shaun Stuart -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/27/2012 8:26:43 AM)

I predict the Vikings will get their first big quick-strike TD of the season on the first series vs the Lions.

It will be to Devin Aromashadu (who will get another one later in the game, and earn the nickname "The Prosecutor").

Jerome Simpson will mostly be targeted on short and intermediate routes, but draw the DB's attention away from other receivers downfield.



Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/27/2012 9:07:19 AM)

it's a whole new season, and quite honerstly, from what i have seen so far,, the saints miss their coaching staff BADLY, the packers had no business getting the lead in mnf, they were gifted a phantom PI call that kept the "go ahead" scoreing drive alive, with out that seattle would have ground out the clock and the score would have been either 10-6 or 7-6, depending on if seattle got a fg on the last play of the 4th quarter..

It's pretty obvious that the things people assumed about teams and competition and performance levels based on "mythical magic" by ceertian draft picks and based on last seasons performace by teams "doesn't mean a damn thing!!"..

It's a new season and teams are capable of anything from unexpected wins to stinking outright, regardless of what they did last season.. see patriots, saints, packers.. etc etc...


we have the possibility, this week to be sitting very pretty in the division and in the conference.

Let's hope we can start winning on the road, by shear force of will!



RBIrving -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/27/2012 12:04:40 PM)

If we come out of the box slow, as we did in the first two games, we won't win on the road against the Lions. If we can come out like we did against the 9'rs, march down the field and put it in the end zone, we have a very good chance of going 3-1.

I think the addition of Jessica Simpson comes at the perfect time. This offense is starting to click, but needs some speed on the outside to start stretching the defense. Just what the doctor ordered.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/29/2012 3:58:07 PM)

So much for making a bunch of money off of Super Teasers, the regular refs are back.

I just found out the line on the Packers/Saints game was originally Packers by NINE, so there ended up being heavy betting on the Saints so the line moved down to 7 1/2.

That about guarantees the officiating will favor the Packers early, I would be quite surprised if they were even neutral. The Packers will likely build a nice lead, and their defense combined with the officiating will likely keep the Saints 10 or more points away.

The Saints COULD put up a fight because they are 0-3, and Brees is a good, tough QB. But I suspect the Saints' poor defense combined with the officials being against them, will prevent them from making it a close game.



Ricky J -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/29/2012 7:46:40 PM)

Vikes big!



Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/29/2012 8:42:22 PM)

I hope so, Ricky. Nothing would make me happier than to watch them in control of the game early. A no doubter.


But I can't help but feel we're looking at a let down game. Maybe this team truly is different and can take it to a division rival on the road.

It would be so nice to keep this party going.

I don't think a loss will be that upsetting but heading in the wrong direction, making mistakes and getting soundly beat by Detroit might change the mood dramatically.



J Jeffreys -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (9/29/2012 9:03:29 PM)

The Vikings can definitely win big this week.

Turnovers/penalties yadda yadda... Exploit that secondary. Time for Ponder to throw deep with accuracy. Harvin, Simpson and the "Prosecutor" [;)] can each take turns putting the Lions secondary away for life.



marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (10/4/2012 11:38:18 PM)

I think at some point this season, Greg Zuerlein will break the record for the longest FG in the history of the NFL. He'll kick and make a 65 yard FG.

Then the following week, Blair Walsh will make a 67 yarder.

It MIGHT be reversed (Walsh 65, Zuerlein 67 - I may have reversed it because I'm a Viking fan - just like I had the Vikings beating the Falcons 30-27 in overtime of the 1998 NFC Championship), but my unfinely tuned psychic powers, a little more potent due to lack of sleep, are telling me these 2 events will occur this season. I think it would be more fun if they happened the same week, but something tells me they'll be a week apart.



Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (10/5/2012 7:39:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

The record for longest FG will fall this year.

More than one kicker will pass 63.

(Or Walsh will do it twice - the vision isn't 100% clear [;)])



Todd M -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (10/5/2012 7:42:56 AM)

Looking back for this post I thought for a second TrekgeekScott quit as there were posts assigned to "guest" with his old walking for leukemia sig attached to them...but it was just Ed that quit. Why is TGS's old sig attached to that?



Toby Stumbo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (10/5/2012 8:29:49 AM)

? No clue



Gregory Tenn -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (10/5/2012 8:59:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

So much for making a bunch of money off of Super Teasers, the regular refs are back.

I just found out the line on the Packers/Saints game was originally Packers by NINE, so there ended up being heavy betting on the Saints so the line moved down to 7 1/2.

That about guarantees the officiating will favor the Packers early, I would be quite surprised if they were even neutral. The Packers will likely build a nice lead, and their defense combined with the officiating will likely keep the Saints 10 or more points away.

The Saints COULD put up a fight because they are 0-3, and Brees is a good, tough QB. But I suspect the Saints' poor defense combined with the officials being against them, will prevent them from making it a close game.


Despite the betting, I think the officials will do anything they can to help the winless Saints. One of their punishments for bounty gate is that they will not be able to get a high draft pick in any round. The fix will be that they will end up 8-8, miss the playoffs, yet not be able to get enough good draft picks to make a difference next year. That's what you get for flaunting the rules in the face of officials who were trying to make the championship game to appear fair while they were swaying it towards the Saints, but who kept making obvious personal fouls--as if they were trying to exploit the swaying refs. [:(]



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