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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Listening to Rosen this morning, he made it sound like Flip turning down the job was not over Ryan Saunders. He sounded pretty skeptical that Teague would have told him he couldn’t have him on his staff. There may have been some discussion around making sure he had an assistant who was top notch recruiter. Rosen said he isn’t sure how much Flip really wanted the job in the first place. He thinks perhaps he is biding his time until the Wolves GM job opens up when Kahn’s contract expires.
Even Granndpa Sports hinted today that Flip just didn’t think the job was a good fit for him.
I have been saying from the beginning that Flip is an NBA guy. His comments about the Gophers job on Barreiro’s show just left me the impression that he was luke warm at best about the job. He is a die-hard Gopher booster, who bleeds maroon and gold, but I think he was hoping not to asked.

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A rumor is floating around the interwebs (complete speculation) linking Wojo to Minnesota. If ANYTHING could make a few NoGood lovers flip to the dark side, I think a Wojo hire would do it. [&:][&:]

On the bright side, at least Minnesota would lead the B1G in something: FLOOR SLAPS FTW.

Well, yes, this would make me question Teague's judgment. [:D]

Also, just because some of us haven't thrown Teague under the bus before we have any idea who our coach is or what Teague's plan is does not make us "Teague lovers." Some of us just wait for actual evidence upon which to base our opinions. Others like to rush to judgment based on nothing more than love of Flip Saunders, and hey, that's cool -- it's a free country. [8|]

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A rumor is floating around the interwebs (complete speculation) linking Wojo to Minnesota. If ANYTHING could make a few NoGood lovers flip to the dark side, I think a Wojo hire would do it. [&:][&:]

On the bright side, at least Minnesota would lead the B1G in something: FLOOR SLAPS FTW.

Well, yes, this would make me question Teague's judgment. [:D]

Also, just because some of us haven't thrown Teague under the bus before we have any idea who our coach is or what Teague's plan is does not make us "Teague lovers." Some of us just wait for actual evidence upon which to base our opinions. Others like to rush to judgment based on nothing more than love of Flip Saunders, and hey, that's cool -- it's a free country. [8|]

Love of Flip?? [sm=scratch.gif]

I think he's a solid coach who could do a good job here. Unclear where I've ever professed love for him.

As for NoGood's master plan, you're right, the proof will be in the pudding. So far, the preparation of the pudding has stank to high heaven for me.

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ORIGINAL: Pete M.

A rumor is floating around the interwebs (complete speculation) linking Wojo to Minnesota. If ANYTHING could make a few NoGood lovers flip to the dark side, I think a Wojo hire would do it. [&:][&:]

On the bright side, at least Minnesota would lead the B1G in something: FLOOR SLAPS FTW.

Well, yes, this would make me question Teague's judgment. [:D]

Also, just because some of us haven't thrown Teague under the bus before we have any idea who our coach is or what Teague's plan is does not make us "Teague lovers." Some of us just wait for actual evidence upon which to base our opinions. Others like to rush to judgment based on nothing more than love of Flip Saunders, and hey, that's cool -- it's a free country. [8|]

Love of Flip?? [sm=scratch.gif]

I think he's a solid coach who could do a good job here. Unclear where I've ever professed love for him.

As for NoGood's master plan, you're right, the proof will be in the pudding. So far, the preparation of the pudding has stank to high heaven for me.

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ORIGINAL: Pete M.

As for NoGood's master plan, you're right, the proof will be in the pudding. So far, the preparation of the pudding has stank to high heaven for me.

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What part of the search -- of which we have little detail beyond rumors -- don't you like?

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I'll take Enfield over Alford any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Enfield tool a team to Elite 8 just 2 years after it became a Division 1 program. In that one run he might more wins in the dance than Alford. He has shown a propensity to score the upset, while Alford has shown the propensity to be upset.

Just my opinion, but I think USC came out way ahead on the coaching front.

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What part of the search -- of which we have little detail beyond rumors -- don't you like?

I think he's done a pretty NoGood job of managing the PR and the search in general. The national perception that "Minnesota is swinging and missing on everybody" is inarguably bad for the program. And although NoGood wasn't the source of those rumors, he created the fertile ground for them given the quick trigger on Tubby. Why not hold your powder dry for a couple of days on Tubby, do some behind-the-scenes checking on Shaka/Hoiberg, and then go public? Then, if Shaka and Hoiberg already have extensions, the public expectation starts at a manageable level.

I admit to be picking nits to some extent, at least if and until we get more substantial background information. But it appears that NoGood (a) had an inflated sense of the type of candidate he realistically could entice; and (b) the Minnesota program has taken a PR hit -- both nationally and locally -- from the search to this point.

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The Tubby bar is a fairly low one to cross.

Again, people make too much of 1 year in a tournament.

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Phil, I'm not sure who you're arguing with. No one on here likes Tubby. I've railed against him for years on here. No one is defending him or his record.

I'm simply saying I don't necessarily think Enfield is the "next great coach" or something. He had one (lucky IMO) run for 1 year. He may be able to sustain it, maybe not. But I don't think not getting him is a huge loss.

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I'll take Enfield over Alford any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Enfield tool a team to Elite 8 just 2 years after it became a Division 1 program. In that one run he might more wins in the dance than Alford. He has shown a propensity to score the upset, while Alford has shown the propensity to be upset.

Just my opinion, but I think USC came out way ahead on the coaching front.

1 year and a fairly lucky run against fairly weak teams. Gulf Coast lost to three programs I know well that SUCK in Lipscomb, East Tenn State and the University of Maine this year. They actually lost to Lipscomb twice. I like Enfield okay, but he's really unproven. And again, I think it's a sign of just how much others think of him that he ended up at a place like USC with ungodly low expectations.

We'll see what happens. Alford certainly has a lot more resources at his disposal. But I think he beats Enfield like a red-headed step child over the next few years.

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I'll take Enfield over Alford any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Enfield tool a team to Elite 8 just 2 years after it became a Division 1 program. In that one run he might more wins in the dance than Alford. He has shown a propensity to score the upset, while Alford has shown the propensity to be upset.

Just my opinion, but I think USC came out way ahead on the coaching front.

1 year and a fairly lucky run against fairly weak teams. Gulf Coast lost to three programs I know well that SUCK in Lipscomb, East Tenn State and the University of Maine this year. They actually lost to Lipscomb twice. I like Enfield okay, but he's really unproven. And again, I think it's a sign of just how much others think of him that he ended up at a place like USC with ungodly low expectations.

We'll see what happens. Alford certainly has a lot more resources at his disposal. But I think he beats Enfield like a red-headed step child over the next few years.

Sure he will. Alford is taking over a team that was a NCAA #6 seed. Enfield is taking over a team that was 14-18 and coming off 2 years of sanctions. The question is who would have better for UCLA. There is no doubt in my mind it would be Enfield.

I don't believe in luck. I believe in coaches who have their teams prepared to play. Enfield clearly showed he had his team ready to play come tournament time. Alford has uniformly disappointed. He has a storied history as coming in as the prohibitive favorite and getting unceremoniously dumped.

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The national perception that "Minnesota is swinging and missing on everybody" is inarguably bad for the program. And although NoGood wasn't the source of those rumors, he created the fertile ground for them given the quick trigger on Tubby. Why not hold your powder dry for a couple of days on Tubby, do some behind-the-scenes checking on Shaka/Hoiberg, and then go public?

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I'm not saying Alford is a worldbeater. Just that Enfield is not. Again, they were lucky to even make the tourney this year. Their body of work over the entire year (including the tournament) was really not all that impressive. Georgetown was overrated from the start.

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What part of the search -- of which we have little detail beyond rumors -- don't you like?

I think he's done a pretty NoGood job of managing the PR and the search in general. The national perception that "Minnesota is swinging and missing on everybody" is inarguably bad for the program. And although NoGood wasn't the source of those rumors, he created the fertile ground for them given the quick trigger on Tubby. Why not hold your powder dry for a couple of days on Tubby, do some behind-the-scenes checking on Shaka/Hoiberg, and then go public? Then, if Shaka and Hoiberg already have extensions, the public expectation starts at a manageable level.

I admit to be picking nits to some extent, at least if and until we get more substantial background information. But it appears that NoGood (a) had an inflated sense of the type of candidate he realistically could entice; and (b) the Minnesota program has taken a PR hit -- both nationally and locally -- from the search to this point.

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What part of the search -- of which we have little detail beyond rumors -- don't you like?

I think he's done a pretty NoGood job of managing the PR and the search in general. The national perception that "Minnesota is swinging and missing on everybody" is inarguably bad for the program. And although NoGood wasn't the source of those rumors, he created the fertile ground for them given the quick trigger on Tubby. Why not hold your powder dry for a couple of days on Tubby, do some behind-the-scenes checking on Shaka/Hoiberg, and then go public? Then, if Shaka and Hoiberg already have extensions, the public expectation starts at a manageable level.

I admit to be picking nits to some extent, at least if and until we get more substantial background information. But it appears that NoGood (a) had an inflated sense of the type of candidate he realistically could entice; and (b) the Minnesota program has taken a PR hit -- both nationally and locally -- from the search to this point.

So if he isn't the source, but the rumors are stil getting out, don't you think him "snooping around" other coaches while Tubby is still employed would leak as well? And wouldn't that make him look even worse?