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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I've seen White and Williams both play up close through high school games, Gatorade Shootout and Howard Pulley League.

White is a more polished player and physically more mature from a size and strength stand point. He was also a better coached player though out his teens. He had a bad ass demeanor on and off the court.

Williams is less developed, but from a pure basketball skills stand point he is light years higher than White. From an athletic stand point the kid is a freak of nature. His demeanor was an ear to ear smile before, during and after games. Unlike White his life off the court is on the upswing. What I gleaned from the stories I read about Williams, he was never a trouble maker, but a good natured goof off when it came to school until late in his junior year in high school. He spent a lot of hours making up classes, getting his grades up and preparing for the ACT. He had to retake the ACT a couple of times and kept inching his score up until he made it. After graduation he immediately enrolled in the first summer session at the U to get used to taking college classes.

When all is said and done, White was more NCAA Division 1 ready than Williams coming out of high school, but Williams has a much bigger upside.

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ORIGINAL: drew

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I've seen White and Williams both play up close through high school games, Gatorade Shootout and Howard Pulley League.

White is a more polished player and physically more mature from a size and strength stand point. He was also a better coached player though out his teens. He had a bad ass demeanor on and off the court.

Williams is less developed, but from a pure basketball skills stand point he is light years higher than White. From an athletic stand point the kid is a freak of nature. His demeanor was an ear to ear smile before, during and after games. Unlike White his life off the court is on the upswing. What I gleaned from the stories I read about Williams, he was never a trouble maker, but a good natured goof off when it came to school until late in his junior year in high school. He spent a lot of hours making up classes, getting his grades up and preparing for the ACT. He had to retake the ACT a couple of times and kept inching his score up until he made it. After graduation he immediately enrolled in the first summer session at the U to get used to taking college classes.

When all is said and done, White was more NCAA Division 1 ready than Williams coming out of high school, but Williams has a much bigger upside.

Thanks for the excellent breakdown Tim.  I guess what I've been surprised about by Williams so far is that his jumper actually looks pretty good.  I've heard extremely athletic and can jump out of the building, but his shot has impressed me.  He could be pretty dangerous if he continues to develop. 

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ORIGINAL: Matt Dahl

Why is Westbrook in street clothes tonight? Hope it's not a serious injury.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I expect jump shots to start falling. Blake, Westbrook and Devoe Joseph are proven shooters. Last night not withstanding. If White can manage to get reinstated he is another player with good range. Williams Jr has been a surprise from the outside to this point. The biggest problem is that Nolan commands so many minutes and his colligiate history is one of not being able to put it in the ocean from the end of a pier at high tide. He is so bad that his primary defender usually leaves him to double the ball. The other team wants him to shoot. Hopefully Cobbs or Joseph can take most of the PG minutes as the season wears on.

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I expect jump shots to start falling. Blake, Westbrook and Devoe Joseph are proven shooters. Last night not withstanding. If White can manage to get reinstated he is another player with good range. Williams Jr has been a surprise from the outside to this point. The biggest problem is that Nolan commands so many minutes and his colligiate history is one of not being able to put it in the ocean from the end of a pier at high tide. He is so bad that his primary defender usually leaves him to double the ball. The other team wants him to shoot. Hopefully Cobbs or Joseph can take most of the PG minutes as the season wears on.

Nolan draws a lot of fouls and plays tough man on man defense

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ORIGINAL: Pete M.

One of the worst-refereed games I've seen in quite some time. But I'll take that Gophers win any day. Let's take it to Portland, then send Huggins' thug'uns back to Hickville, West Virginia with a loss.