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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

More on the fumble review issue.  This from Peter King at SI.

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The Kurt Warner fumble with five seconds to go actually was reviewed -- and upheld. There is no question that, cosmetically, replay assistant Bob McGrath, sitting upstairs, should have called for a booth review and let Terry McAulay see the play down on the field. But understand the mechanics of the way this process works -- and understand the process was aided by a penalty call on the field.
When the ball was knocked loose from Warner and the Steelers recovered, an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty was called on LaMarr Woodley for excessive celebration. So now, in the replay booth, McGrath had extra time, well over a minute, to use the touch-screen system of examining replays of the play. I don't know how many McGrath saw; he had 16 angles to choose from, and he used the extra time -- not only the time that comes with a change of possession and a re-spotting of the ball and a new play clock commencing, but now a discussion among the officials of the penalty and the spot of the penalty and walking off the penalty.
McGrath had around 90 seconds from the time of the loose ball to examine the replays to see if McAulay needed to examine the call himself -- and McGrath judged, and was later backed by the league, that officials on the field made the correct judgment that Warner fumbled before his arm started going forward. I agree that it was close. Very close. I wish McGrath had given McAulay a look. But I don't believe McGrath made the wrong call.

so you see...the guy did have time to review it in the booth and came to the right conclusion...

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

More on the fumble review issue.  This from Peter King at SI.

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The Kurt Warner fumble with five seconds to go actually was reviewed -- and upheld. There is no question that, cosmetically, replay assistant Bob McGrath, sitting upstairs, should have called for a booth review and let Terry McAulay see the play down on the field. But understand the mechanics of the way this process works -- and understand the process was aided by a penalty call on the field.
When the ball was knocked loose from Warner and the Steelers recovered, an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty was called on LaMarr Woodley for excessive celebration. So now, in the replay booth, McGrath had extra time, well over a minute, to use the touch-screen system of examining replays of the play. I don't know how many McGrath saw; he had 16 angles to choose from, and he used the extra time -- not only the time that comes with a change of possession and a re-spotting of the ball and a new play clock commencing, but now a discussion among the officials of the penalty and the spot of the penalty and walking off the penalty.
McGrath had around 90 seconds from the time of the loose ball to examine the replays to see if McAulay needed to examine the call himself -- and McGrath judged, and was later backed by the league, that officials on the field made the correct judgment that Warner fumbled before his arm started going forward. I agree that it was close. Very close. I wish McGrath had given McAulay a look. But I don't believe McGrath made the wrong call.

so you see...the guy did have time to review it in the booth and came to the right conclusion...

And I've seen more obvious calls being reviewed on the field take much longer then 90 secs. That statement is the NFL coverup for a mistake

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Alright, but I would still be livid if that were us.  

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

More on the fumble review issue.  This from Peter King at SI.

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The Kurt Warner fumble with five seconds to go actually was reviewed -- and upheld. There is no question that, cosmetically, replay assistant Bob McGrath, sitting upstairs, should have called for a booth review and let Terry McAulay see the play down on the field. But understand the mechanics of the way this process works -- and understand the process was aided by a penalty call on the field.
When the ball was knocked loose from Warner and the Steelers recovered, an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty was called on LaMarr Woodley for excessive celebration. So now, in the replay booth, McGrath had extra time, well over a minute, to use the touch-screen system of examining replays of the play. I don't know how many McGrath saw; he had 16 angles to choose from, and he used the extra time -- not only the time that comes with a change of possession and a re-spotting of the ball and a new play clock commencing, but now a discussion among the officials of the penalty and the spot of the penalty and walking off the penalty.
McGrath had around 90 seconds from the time of the loose ball to examine the replays to see if McAulay needed to examine the call himself -- and McGrath judged, and was later backed by the league, that officials on the field made the correct judgment that Warner fumbled before his arm started going forward. I agree that it was close. Very close. I wish McGrath had given McAulay a look. But I don't believe McGrath made the wrong call.

so you see...the guy did have time to review it in the booth and came to the right conclusion...

And I've seen more obvious calls being reviewed on the field take much longer then 90 secs. That statement is the NFL coverup for a mistake

What mistake?  It wouldn't have been overturned either way.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

And that would have been a FANTASTIC ending!

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

And that would have been a FANTASTIC ending!

We got the proper ending.

AZ was a poor team and should not have been in the Super Bowl.  A decent QB and that would be our spot.

Wisenhunt is a jerk also.  I much prefer a good person like Tomlin win - and he is an ex Viking.

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

In the clutch, the champs outplayed the runner up.

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Plus, it is not like THIS Steelers team has run off 3 straight wins or something.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

In the clutch, the champs outplayed the runner up.

Which is what happens pretty much every Superbowl.

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Plus, it is not like THIS Steelers team has run off 3 straight wins or something.

The Steelers got a bye and had to beat teams they were favored to beat. 
The Cardinals didn't get a bye and had to beat teams that were favored to beat them. 

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

In the clutch, the champs outplayed the runner up.

Which is what happens pretty much every Superbowl.

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Plus, it is not like THIS Steelers team has run off 3 straight wins or something.

The Steelers got a bye and had to beat teams they were favored to beat. 
The Cardinals didn't get a bye and had to beat teams that were favored to beat them. 

The Steelers earned this title and took on every top team in the NFL

Eagles
Ravens (3 times)
Giants
Colts
Chargers (2 times)
Patriots
Cowboys
Titans




The Cards had a good shot to win but they couldn't get it done.  They actually played more up to their potential except for a couple of critical errors.  By far, their biggest error was the INT on a stupid play call.  Throw the fade to Fitz and they probably are champion because that changes all the momentum.

The Steelers proved to be champions and will be in the mix every year with Big Ben and Mike Tomlin.

AZ is a one year wonder like the Falcons of 98.

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

A lot of whining and crying for the Cards.  They took  their shot and it wasn't good enough.  Next year it will be someone else's turn.

8 years in a row with no repeat NFC Champ

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

A lot of whining and crying for the Cards.  They took  their shot and it wasn't good enough.  Next year it will be someone else's turn.

8 years in a row with no repeat NFC Champ

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO



Not only has the NFC not had a repeat champ in the last 8 years - but 8 different teams have won the NFC championship in the last 8 years. 

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Don T in CO



Not only has the NFC not had a repeat champ in the last 8 years - but 8 different teams have won the NFC championship in the last 8 years. 

OK,  I must be suffering from some form of disconnect...but doesn't the pre-hyphen statement say the same thing as the post hyphen statement?