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Jeff Jesser -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/13/2008 2:48:20 PM)

I think a "lets get Culpepper in therapy thread" is more appropriate.  That dude is insane right now.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/14/2008 3:20:45 PM)

I found this on the Onion.  Pretty damn funny:


Michael Vick Hopes Jail Is Like The Longest Yard Without All The Throwing Michael Vick Hopes Jail Is Like The Longest Yard Without All The Throwing December 13, 2007 | | Onion Sports


ATLANTA—Recently convicted Falcons quarterback Michael Vick is hoping that the events of his 23-month prison sentence play out similarly to those portrayed in the 2005 Adam Sandler football comedy The Longest Yard except for the movie's emphasis on passing the ball, sources close to Vick reported Wednesday. "I keep thinking that Mean Machine quarterback dude should just pull the ball down, maybe pump fake it first a couple times, but just pull it down and go around the end when the prison guards show blitz up the middle," Vick told friends and family at a pre-trial screening of the film. "He could always chuck it into dude's nutsack after the play was over." Vick was reportedly distraught to learn that, except for the probable presence of Michael Irvin, an actual prison would be nothing like the one in the movie.[image]http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/onion/assets/terminator.gif[/image]




Trekgeekscott -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/14/2008 3:41:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I think a "lets get Culpepper in therapy thread" is more appropriate.  That dude is insane right now.


Culpepper really thinks he's going to get a starting job somewhere...

Hey, Daunte, if you're listening...if you want to start...really...there's this little place called CANADA.  The CFL is about the only place you are going to get a starting job this year.  The NFL will hire you as a backup...not a starter.




Guest -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/16/2008 12:59:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I found this on the Onion.  Pretty damn funny:


Michael Vick Hopes Jail Is Like The Longest Yard Without All The Throwing Michael Vick Hopes Jail Is Like The Longest Yard Without All The Throwing December 13, 2007 | | Onion Sports



ATLANTA—Recently convicted Falcons quarterback Michael Vick is hoping that the events of his 23-month prison sentence play out similarly to those portrayed in the 2005 Adam Sandler football comedy The Longest Yard except for the movie's emphasis on passing the ball, sources close to Vick reported Wednesday. "I keep thinking that Mean Machine quarterback dude should just pull the ball down, maybe pump fake it first a couple times, but just pull it down and go around the end when the prison guards show blitz up the middle," Vick told friends and family at a pre-trial screening of the film. "He could always chuck it into dude's nutsack after the play was over." Vick was reportedly distraught to learn that, except for the probable presence of Michael Irvin, an actual prison would be nothing like the one in the movie.[image]http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/onion/assets/terminator.gif[/image]

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[&:][&:]  Pretrial screening.  LOL




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/18/2008 1:51:36 PM)

MOMENTUM BUILDS FOR EXPANDED 17-18 GAME SEASON 



Posted by Mike Florio on August 18, 2008, 9:23 a.m.  
For a while now, the NFL has been considering the possibility of expanding the regular season.  Talk is heating up, and the timing makes sense.

With the league hoping to reel in the relative dollars that are devoted to the players via the next round of Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiations, this is a perfect opportunity for the owners to create more money for everyone.

We have to grow the pie; the biggest way of quickly growing the pie is in the media area,” Patriots owner Bob Kraft tells Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe.  “The feeling is that we would get greater revenue for media if we had more regular-season games.”

Even though owners make greater profit in the preseason by charging the same amount for tickets and by paying less money to the players, the key is the television revenue.  An 18-game regular season could translate into a 12-percent increase to the money paid by the various networks for airing the games.

“The bottom line is that I think you’ll see us going to 17 or 18 regular-season games in the future,” Kraft told Reiss.

Such a move could/would trim the preseason, possibly down to two games.  But a larger regular season creates all sorts of other issues.

With 18 games, there’s a greater chance for some real snooze-fests at the tail end of the season.  If a bad team is already clearly bad after 14 or 15 games, the team could be even worse after 16 or 17, increasing the chances of vast expanses of empty seats and low ratings during the last few weekends.

Then there’s the legitimate need to prepare each team for the season, and to give guys at the bottom of the roster a fair chance to show what they can do.  Kraft recognized this in saying, “[Y]ou’d have to balance that with the need that coaches have to develop and get a team ready to play.  Could it be two preseason games, or three?  I personally wouldn’t be adverse to either one.”

Another real question is scheduling.  With 18 games, there would still be a perception of unfairness when some of the teams are forced to give up a home date as the league continues its plan to export regular-season contests to other countries.  At 17, a full 16 games could be played at neutral sites, with everyone getting their eight regular-season home games.

But then the problem would be that half the teams would lose a home game in the preseason, if the slate moves from four to three in response to a one-game bump in the regular season.

Another point to keep in mind in this regard is the calendar.  In the late ’90s, the league wisely decided to avoid Labor Day weekend as the launch of the season.  So adding games would push the regular season into the next year, bumping the Super Bowl farther into February.  And on the front end a reduced preseason would cause camps to open later, giving baseball even more time as the dominant pro sport.   
      
If, in the end, the goal is to grow the pie, why not expand the regular season to 17 games and keep the four preseason games?  This would give every team ten home games, maintain the current July-August camp/preseason activity, add another week to the regular season, and provide the league with sixteen opportunities every year to play games in places where games currently aren’t played.

So while there’s a presumption that growth of the regular season would result in shrinkage of the preseason, truly growing the pie will happen only by truly growing the season.  The entire season.  Not just the part of it that counts, at the expense of the part that doesn’t.





Easy E -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/18/2008 2:12:02 PM)

It always bothered me that people would say they need to "shorten" preseason because of injuries and such. Players are more likely to get injured in a "real" game than an exhibition game.

IMO, 16 games in the NFL is about as long as you can go and still have continuity from the first to second half of the season. Some teams will suffer injuries, but a fair number of teams manage to make it through the regular and post seasons reasonably intact.

You start having 18 game seasons, and the injuries will pile up and a majority of teams will look a lot different than when they started.




Guest -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/18/2008 2:25:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

It always bothered me that people would say they need to "shorten" preseason because of injuries and such. Players are more likely to get injured in a "real" game than an exhibition game.

IMO, 16 games in the NFL is about as long as you can go and still have continuity from the first to second half of the season. Some teams will suffer injuries, but a fair number of teams manage to make it through the regular and post seasons reasonably intact.

You start having 18 game seasons, and the injuries will pile up and a majority of teams will look a lot different than when they started.

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I agree.

Hell, 16 regular season games + playoffs for some, is extremely taxing on the health and body of a player. 

I hope greed doesn't let them ruin this sport.




djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 1:24:11 AM)

I'm with you guys.  16 is enough as is.  The added risk just isn't worth it.  How greedy do you have to be?  Football is already KILLING every other sport revenue-wise.  I believe it makes more money per year than EVERY other sport in America combined if I remember the numbers correctly.




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 10:06:25 AM)

I had to laugh at ESPN yesterday. They used their new "Breaking News" hpe on the Bears having Kyle Orton as their strating QB. Shouldn't that be used for something everyone is interested in like someone winning a Gold Medal?




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 10:09:16 AM)

Yeah, a gold medal in trampoline. [&o]

What's next, an UNO tourney?




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 10:16:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Yeah, a gold medal in trampoline. [&o]

What's next, an UNO tourney?


I saw a little bit of that and thought "How do you judge that"? They all look similar and unless you don't land on your feet, then where do the deductions come from?




Jeff Jesser -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 10:20:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Yeah, a gold medal in trampoline. [&o]

What's next, an UNO tourney?



I hoping for something like "Need a fix, junky Jenga".  That would at least be comical. 




Toby Stumbo -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 10:27:41 AM)

At least Madden should be added to the Olympics. [:D]




Lynn G. -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 10:42:07 AM)

The man or the game?   [;)]




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 11:29:51 AM)

Earlier in the year the Bengals cut ties with Chris Henry for all of his off field problems. They just resigned him because of injuries to Chad & TJ.  Couldn't they find someone else? Doesn't he still have a suspension he needs to serve?




Toby Stumbo -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 11:51:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

The man or the game?   [;)]


Hah, the game of course.

Seriously, I'm willing to bet XBox and Playstion are part of the Olympics soon. [&:]




djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 11:59:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Yeah, a gold medal in trampoline. [&o]

What's next, an UNO tourney?


I saw a little bit of that and thought "How do you judge that"? They all look similar and unless you don't land on your feet, then where do the deductions come from?


Jim, I'm pretty sure it's all about placement on it.  You are supposed to land as close to the x in the middle of the trampoline as possible on all your jumps, with as little side to side movement as possible as well.  Plus there's all the technical/artistic/difficulty factors.  Much like gymnastics or diving really.




Lynn G. -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 12:23:24 PM)

... and (with regard to the trampoline) little things like if their feet are kept together, back arched properly on the twists... stuff like that.




djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 1:09:50 PM)

Ya, not saying I like it, but I think there is certainly a good skill level.




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 1:10:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

... and (with regard to the trampoline) little things like if their feet are kept together, back arched properly on the twists... stuff like that.


Must be trained eyes because all jumps and twists are so fast, I can't see errors




Bruce Johnson -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/19/2008 9:30:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Easy E

It always bothered me that people would say they need to "shorten" preseason because of injuries and such. Players are more likely to get injured in a "real" game than an exhibition game.

IMO, 16 games in the NFL is about as long as you can go and still have continuity from the first to second half of the season. Some teams will suffer injuries, but a fair number of teams manage to make it through the regular and post seasons reasonably intact.

You start having 18 game seasons, and the injuries will pile up and a majority of teams will look a lot different than when they started.


The case will be made by the players union that a larger roster will be neccessary.  Do you remember the motto- 40 for 60?  That was in the days of the 14 game schedule.




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/20/2008 6:39:26 AM)

Horn Contacts 31 Teams
Wed Aug 20, 2008

The Miami Herald reports the agent for free agent WR Joe Horn has contacted 31 teams to gauge interest in his client. Horn was released by the Falcons on Tuesday. Horn narrowed his top choices down to the Dolphins, the Cowboys, the Titans, the Jaguars, and the Rams.




Easy E -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/20/2008 8:59:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The case will be made by the players union that a larger roster will be neccessary.  Do you remember the motto- 40 for 60?  That was in the days of the 14 game schedule.


Oh yeah, but they will want even more if they agree. Injury protection, larger revenue sharing, etc.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/20/2008 10:00:54 AM)

I would take Horn over Ferguson in a heartbeat, even at this age.




Jim Frenette -> RE: RE:NFL News (8/20/2008 10:50:41 AM)

Bolden wants out of Arizona also. His agent Drew Rosenhaus says there are a number of teams that want him. If he is talking to teams or they are talking to him, then an investigation should be launched for tampering




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