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John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:02:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz So you want someone to bet that the Pats won't win the SuperBowl THIS year, starting a rookie instead of the greatest QB in the game? Wow, way to go out on a limb, JC. PATRIOTS SUPER BOWL CHANCES THIS DECADE = [&:] I will go further They won't make the playoffs this year and they won't make the Super Bowl next year Further still - they won't win another one with this group.

John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:03:14 PM)
Beatin' Chastards Never Prosper

John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:06:09 PM)
Who will get more catches this year - Hank Baskett or Sidney Rice?

djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:12:07 PM)
Man you guys are Pats-biased.

Easy E -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:18:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Man you guys are Pats-biased. I am cheating biased, I don't care what laundry they wear, you cheat and you deserve no respect.

djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:20:50 PM)
I tend to agree with that. However, where we disagree is: 1) the effect of that cheating. I don't think it gave them any titles, personally. 2) our thoughts on others cheating. i think basically most other teams in the league have been doing similar things to the pats. if jimmy johnson says it (and he did), then i tend to believe him.

John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:23:52 PM)
1. They cheat 2. Tired of all the hype 3. They haven't won it all in years 4. Brady's ego cost Moss a SB win

Easy E -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:24:25 PM)
Cheating is cheating, and if you cheat for no benefit, it is almost worse. At least if you're cheating to try to win, I see the point. Cheating just to do it is a complete slimeball move. The other things is just an excuse that doesn't fly with grade school kids, I'm certainly not going to give a 50 year old man a pass on it. He's the epitome, the best, the definer of the practice, and he gets zero respect from me. Show me other's as slimy as him, and they get none either.

djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:28:47 PM)
Eh, we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

Easy E -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:31:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz Eh, we'll just have to agree to disagree here. No we don't. You can respect him, and I won't. It's all good, no disagreement. [;)]

djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:34:45 PM)
haha, well done, E.

So.Mn.Fan -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:46:48 PM)
Jeez - I always forget to put on my cup and eye-black before entering the football threads .... [&:]

Easy E -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:47:09 PM)
This isn't a dig, just a comment... I have never seen a team get so destroyed by one play as the Patriots were by the Dolphins. I honestly think Brad Childress could have reacted to it better than Bill and Patriots did. What was going on there? Did Bill just have an off day or something?

David Levine -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:47:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Easy E Seeing them just get stomped by the Dolphins was just hilarious. They literally ran the same play over and over again, and Bill had no clue what to do. I That was amazing. They literally had no answer for the Miami freaking Dolphins. I have never seen a team just run 1 single play with so much success at the NFL level.

John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 12:59:23 PM)
How many titles has he won without Weiss, Mangini and Crennel?

djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 1:25:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress How many titles has he won without Weiss, Mangini and Crennel? How many titles has Parcells won without Bill?

John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 1:30:53 PM)
The only thing that diminishes the joy of the Pats getting hammered this year will be watching Moss waste yet another year of his career. Belichick is stupid to go with Cassell with no competition.

Jake Carlson -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 1:39:36 PM)
Is there any coach in his right mind that would join the Raiders? Seriously, I can't see any retread or any up and comer being stupid enough to take that job as long as Senile Davis is still around.

David Levine -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 1:41:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress How many titles has he won without Weiss, Mangini and Crennel? How many titles has Parcells won without Bill? How does this help the argument that the Pats will be title contenders next year?

djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 1:49:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress How many titles has he won without Weiss, Mangini and Crennel? How many titles has Parcells won without Bill? How does this help the argument that the Pats will be title contenders next year? It doesn't. It just seems like JC was trying to diminish BB as a coach, and to me that is completely unfounded. I think circumstances play a large part. It's not like the Pats were far away from a title the last couple years. 2007-Botched FG by a rookie kicker loses them the SB basically. 2008-Kevin Faulk gets hurt and Eli lucks out with a miraculous catch by Tyree to cost them the SB. We're talking about 2 plays basically costing them 2 more superbowls.

David Levine -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 2:04:54 PM)
It's also possible that "circumstances" (ie: cheating) played a BIG part in them winning three 3 point Super Bowls.

Tim Cady -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 2:13:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: So.Mn.Fan Jeez - I always forget to put on my cup and eye-black before entering the football threads .... [&:] You're a hockey guy, just go Happy Gilmore on 'em. Pull the jersey up over their heads and go to town, one to the gut and one to to face, they'll flip over and be looking for plate numbers.[;)]

John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 2:15:46 PM)
Again, did anyone in 2001 think the Yankees would go this whole decade without winning another World Series? The jig is up on the Pats. Last year was their big shot for #4 and they blew it. "2 plays" my rear end. The 98 Vikings were 1 play from a SB - so what? They LOST! The 2007 Pats have finally replaced the 98 Vikings as the greatest chokers in history. Their entire team is in decline and teams are going to be going after them this year. Cassell is brutal, might as well start Sam Cassell.

Tim Cady -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 2:16:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jake Carlson Is there any coach in his right mind that would join the Raiders? Seriously, I can't see any retread or any up and comer being stupid enough to take that job as long as Senile Davis is still around. A guy I work with said he heard a sound byte from Denny Green and Denny was asked if he would consider the job and I guess Denny said he wouldn't consider answering the phone as long as Al is there.[&:]

Tim Cady -> RE: RE:NFL News (9/22/2008 2:23:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress Again, did anyone in 2001 think the Yankees would go this whole decade without winning another World Series? The jig is up on the Pats. Last year was their big shot for #4 and they blew it. "2 plays" my rear end. The 98 Vikings were 1 play from a SB - so what? They LOST! The 2007 Pats have finally replaced the 98 Vikings as the greatest chokers in history. Their entire team is in decline and teams are going to be going after them this year. Cassell is brutal, might as well start Sam Cassell. No and I agree with you. I really thought the Yankees would win one more with Mussina. Just think Mussina went to the Yanks the year after their last one after wasting away in Baltimore. I think all the teams pushed the line with video, Belichick might have taken it to such a level that his arrogance had to be repremended. To me their cheating was like Tice scalping tickets. There was a rule that wasn't being enforced until someone crossed the line so far the league had to make a statement. I feel bad for Moss and I am friends with Tom Brady's first cousin, so I am biased towards the Patriots. With that said they are done with this group as you said. Maybe Brady will make a run in 4 years with a whole new cast. The lack of adjustment yesterday was just like Childress when his script is done.

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