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ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 11:54:27 AM)

Do they realize that people actually pay attention and watch this team everyday? It was part of the Twins "narrative" that Gomez hit the ball on the ground and use his legs.

It's all water under the bridge at this point and we know full well what happened no matter how much the way to twist it




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 11:56:14 AM)

Bingo Bango
Bongo, ewen and miles.
Spot on.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 11:58:24 AM)

Sheople accuse us naysayers of re-writing the past.
Plenty of that going on in the Twins camp as well.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:04:56 PM)

Someone email that story to SI from 2009.

Please.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:13:34 PM)

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:14:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.



Find somewhere in SI to send this.

Please. Gardy the fibber needs to be exposed.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:18:14 PM)

This earlier SI story is the one about ground balls, too.

http://www.si.com/mlb/strike-zone/2014/05/14/carlos-gomez-milwaukee-brewers-sports-illustrated-cover-may-19




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:20:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.



Find somewhere in SI to send this.

Please. Gardy the fibber needs to be exposed.


Ed, I just emailed Common Man. I will look into emailing SI with these links. Not sure if you need Twitter or Facebook to email these places but some places are like that and I ain't never gonna be a member of those sites.

I tell ya, I'm sick and tired of reading this crap from the Twins, covering their tracks, talking bullshit. Why don't these reporters do some fact checking?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:22:04 PM)

Because .... "things is great, my friend"




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:25:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.



Find somewhere in SI to send this.

Please. Gardy the fibber needs to be exposed.


Ed, I just emailed Common Man. I will look into emailing SI with these links. Not sure if you need Twitter or Facebook to email these places but some places are like that and I ain't never gonna be a member of those sites.

I tell ya, I'm sick and tired of reading this crap from the Twins, covering their tracks, talking bullshit. Why don't these reporters do some fact checking?

Ewen, did you email it both to "booth" and to Common? Wouldn't be a bad idea to send it to both. Especially to "booth" if you want him to touch on it today. He won't read the email to Common until tonight or tomorrow. If I email him while he's on air, I usually send it to both email addresses.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:31:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.



Find somewhere in SI to send this.

Please. Gardy the fibber needs to be exposed.


Ed, I just emailed Common Man. I will look into emailing SI with these links. Not sure if you need Twitter or Facebook to email these places but some places are like that and I ain't never gonna be a member of those sites.

I tell ya, I'm sick and tired of reading this crap from the Twins, covering their tracks, talking bullshit. Why don't these reporters do some fact checking?

Ewen, did you email it both to "booth" and to Common? Wouldn't be a bad idea to send it to both. Especially to "booth" if you want him to touch on it today. He won't read the email to Common until tonight or tomorrow. If I email him while he's on air, I usually send it to both email addresses.


I sent it to Tenna and Common




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:32:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.



Find somewhere in SI to send this.

Please. Gardy the fibber needs to be exposed.


Ed, I just emailed Common Man. I will look into emailing SI with these links. Not sure if you need Twitter or Facebook to email these places but some places are like that and I ain't never gonna be a member of those sites.

I tell ya, I'm sick and tired of reading this crap from the Twins, covering their tracks, talking bullshit. Why don't these reporters do some fact checking?

Ewen, did you email it both to "booth" and to Common? Wouldn't be a bad idea to send it to both. Especially to "booth" if you want him to touch on it today. He won't read the email to Common until tonight or tomorrow. If I email him while he's on air, I usually send it to both email addresses.



I posted on the ESPN 1500 comments w/my Facebook ID. so it goes




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:33:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

http://www.twincities.com/ci_8515728
"If he can keep the ball on the ground, he's putting pressure on the defense. You've got a split second (to field and throw), or he's going to beat it out," the manager said. "That's all we're asking — make the game a little easier on yourself. Because he's got all the ability in the world."

Once again. More evidence in favor of Gomez and in direct contradiction with what Gardenhire is saying.



Find somewhere in SI to send this.

Please. Gardy the fibber needs to be exposed.


Ed, I just emailed Common Man. I will look into emailing SI with these links. Not sure if you need Twitter or Facebook to email these places but some places are like that and I ain't never gonna be a member of those sites.

I tell ya, I'm sick and tired of reading this crap from the Twins, covering their tracks, talking bullshit. Why don't these reporters do some fact checking?

Ewen, did you email it both to "booth" and to Common? Wouldn't be a bad idea to send it to both. Especially to "booth" if you want him to touch on it today. He won't read the email to Common until tonight or tomorrow. If I email him while he's on air, I usually send it to both email addresses.


I sent it to Tenna and Common

I usually CC Tenna too. Seems like he just ignores me (or doesn't read his email).




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:36:18 PM)

If it takes five or ten minutes to send and email in response to this then it should be done by any fan is tired of being lied to

Enough is enough. And thanks, Ed




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/17/2014 12:55:29 PM)

Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington insisted the team's front office is not giving up on 2014 just yet, and said the next couple of weeks are crucial in determining what the team does at the trade deadline.

"We're going to do whatever we feel gives the Red Sox the best chance to be as good as possible as quickly as possible," he said. "And we are not conceding 2014 with that statement."

GM Ben Cherington says the Red Sox's unproductive offense has proved to be the team's downfall.

Appearing on WEEI's "Dennis & Callahan" on Thursday morning, Cherington said he feels the Red Sox are capable of being better than several of the teams ahead of them in the standings, and that there's a chance for a second-half run.

"We've put ourselves in this position, so the math is working against us a little bit," he said. "But stranger things have happened. We don't see why we can't win more games than most of the teams ahead of us."

He acknowledged that, at this point, the odds are against a Red Sox resurrection, and that the front office is engaged in trade conversations as the July 31 deadline nears.

Cherington also took the blame for the team's worst first half in nearly 20 years, pointing to an unproductive offense as the deadly flaw.

The defending champions entered the All-Star break nine games below .500 (43-52) and 9.5 games back in the AL East. They rank last in the league in runs, slugging percentage and total bases, and are hitting a dismal .246 as a team.

"Our pitching has been good enough to win, we just haven't produced offensively. And as I look at that, I guess what I would say is that I didn't do a good enough job building a complete offense," he said.

"It certainly wasn't our intent. We thought we would have that. We thought we had reason to believe we could have that going into the year, but the reality is we have not," he continued. "And that has hamstrung our ability to win games. ... We're trying to remedy that in ways that make sense. It takes time. But that's been the flaw of the team more than anything else, so I take responsibility for that."

When asked how he would characterize the contract discussions with Jon Lester, Cherington emphasized that the two sides are having continued conversations and the recent rumors and reports haven't come from the key parties involved.

"I think a lot has been written about this. ... If you ask John Henry, Tom Werner, Larry Lucchino, myself, if you ask Jon Lester, if you ask Seth Levinson, I think what all of those people would say is that there's a strong relationship here that goes back 12 years and that strong relationship will allow for a continued dialogue and a detailed conversation at the right time," he said.

He said that Lester is still focused on winning games.

"Jon feels like right now is the time to focus on the field," he said. "We're still trying to win."




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 8:13:55 AM)

The Los Angeles Dodgers have a crowded outfield, and if that gets in the way of Matt Kemp playing every day he would be open to a trade.

Matt Kemp's agent told FoxSports.com that Kemp would be open to a trade if it meant he would be able to play every day.

The outfielder's agent, former major league pitcher Dave Stewart, said that Kemp wants to be an everyday center fielder and if the Dodgers cannot make that happen, Kemp would be open to a trade, according to a report from FoxSports.com.

"Whatever they want to do we're favorable to, as long as it gives him an opportunity to play every day," Stewart told FoxSports.com. "He'd like to eventually go back to center field. He's not opposed to right or left. But his hope at some point is to get back to center."

The Dodgers removed Kemp from center field for defensive reasons at the end of May. Carl Crawford injured his left ankle on May 28, and Kemp has been the everyday left fielder ever since. Kemp is batting .269 with eight home runs and 35 RBI this season.

Crawford returned from the disabled list last Thursday, and again, the Dodgers have five healthy outfielders -- Crawford, Kemp, Yasiel Puig, Andre Ethier and Scott Van Slyke. Ethier and Van Slyke have started the majority of games in center field.

After Crawford was activated, Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said there are no plans to use either Crawford or Kemp in center.

The crowded outfield has been an issue since early in spring training, when Kemp declared, "I'm not a fourth outfielder. We can cut that off right there. I won't accept that role."

Kemp still has $107 million remaining on his contract from 2015 to 2019. He does not have a no-trade clause in his deal.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 8:15:24 AM)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 8:35:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



I love the idea of Matt Kemp as MN centerfielder, eventually another fielder.

I only wish the Twins had the guts to make such a deal.




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 8:38:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



I love the idea of Matt Kemp as MN centerfielder, eventually another fielder.

I only wish the Twins had the guts to make such a deal.


If he is still owed 107M through 2017, he is way too expensive for this Minnesota Twins ball club and management....and for them, the discussion is already over!




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 8:43:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lylej

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



I love the idea of Matt Kemp as MN centerfielder, eventually another fielder.

I only wish the Twins had the guts to make such a deal.


If he is still owed 107M through 2017, he is way too expensive for this Minnesota Twins ball club and management....and for them, the discussion is already over!



Ladies and Gentleman, it's the Lyle the wet blanket!!

[:D]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 9:12:59 AM)

And yet, some will tell you ... The Twins have been willing to spend money.
SOMEONE'S gonna get a helluvan athlete/OFer.
You're right .. won't be us.
No one will ask ... why not... they'll just know it won't happen.
Cash-strapped org? Nope.
Glut of overpaid underachievers already? Nope.




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 9:21:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: lylej

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



I love the idea of Matt Kemp as MN centerfielder, eventually another fielder.

I only wish the Twins had the guts to make such a deal.


If he is still owed 107M through 2017, he is way too expensive for this Minnesota Twins ball club and management....and for them, the discussion is already over!



Ladies and Gentleman, it's the Lyle the wet blanket!!

[:D]


Just stating facts....I wish he was our CF too. however, will NEVER happen!
Next question?




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 9:28:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

And yet, some will tell you ... The Twins have been willing to spend money.
SOMEONE'S gonna get a helluvan athlete/OFer.
You're right .. won't be us.
No one will ask ... why not... they'll just know it won't happen.
Cash-strapped org? Nope.
Glut of overpaid underachievers already? Nope.



Cash strapped is the excuse.

hell's bells, they're in what, the 70-80 mill range? They went over 100 mil before!

Kemp would only hurt the bottom line, as in a little less profit.

This conversation always gets me going.

Such BS coming out of TField.

Cash cow, willing to nickel and dime now, because oh, woe is us, attendance is down.

Well it is down because of the incredibly poor scouting (now allegedly trying to fix it) and a GM that actually tried a couple of things that didn't work, out, so Midas is back to rub coins together to get value from crap talent.

Wasted money on crap.

They'd be this record with Dude in the rotation all year vs Pelfrey.

They'd be this record with Meyer/May in the rotation all year vs Nolasco and Pelfrey.

The Twins don't know how to spend, so they throw it at anything "within budget" and think that appeases fans.

Apathy is setting in. Anger is fading. And the local media just nods, smiles at the accomplishment of the year,and accepts a crap product.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 9:28:57 AM)

There is consistent outrage over the Vikings wallowing in mediocrity.

Why not with the Twins?




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/18/2014 9:32:42 AM)

You could probably get the Dodgers to eat a big chunk of that contract -- Kemp hasn't been healthy since his MVP year and hasn't performed particularly well.

Big question would be how Kemp reacts when Buxton is ready for center.




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