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MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 1:24:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

No doubt. I must admit I'm torn on that one. Part of me likes the thought of the "must pitch to at least 2 batters" line of thinking. It would help speed up the game. But it also takes control away from teams/managers/players. Like the shift, that's usually not a good thing.


I don't think the two are identical (not saying that you said that).......banning a defensive shift seems much more radical than making it a requirement that a new pitcher in an inning pitch to at least 2 batters.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 4:02:09 PM)

Ya, Miles. I hear ya. I just think in both cases you're taking away control of the game. Whereas true "timing only" issues like stepping in/out of the box, on/off of the rubber, etc. should be a different story.

In both the shift and the situational relief model there are pluses and minuses to the approaches.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 4:23:38 PM)

I believe he and Gardy will be touring the continent in a RV

Veteran infielder Nick Punto, who had agreed to a minor league pact and a Spring Training invite with the Diamondbacks, will not report to D-Backs camp and is “shutting it down” for the 2015 season, manager Chip Hale told reporters, including FOX Sports Arizona’s Jody Jackson (Twitter links). Hale stressed that Punto isn’t retiring, but the 37-year-old has decided for the time being that he’d prefer to spend more time with his family.




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 5:10:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

I believe he and Gardy will be touring the continent in a RV

Veteran infielder Nick Punto, who had agreed to a minor league pact and a Spring Training invite with the Diamondbacks, will not report to D-Backs camp and is “shutting it down” for the 2015 season, manager Chip Hale told reporters, including FOX Sports Arizona’s Jody Jackson (Twitter links). Hale stressed that Punto isn’t retiring, but the 37-year-old has decided for the time being that he’d prefer to spend more time with his family.


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Not that there is anything wrong with that......[;)]




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 6:59:30 PM)

http://www.kmov.com/sports/MLB-announces-rule-changes-for-2015-hopes-to-shorten-game-times-292982931.html

Changes coming to speed up the games of MLB....




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 7:29:15 PM)

Hanley Ramirez appears to be huge and ripped with his move from SS to RF. Surely points towards possible PED use. I'm getting the feeling PED use is as out of control as it's ever been because it's to the point where if you get caught, so what? As long as you're not A-Rod, the public will say "oh well, everyone's doing it anyway." Not a big enough penalty for getting caught doing PED's. Don't they still get a do-over? Like if they get one positive result, the player is warned behind the curtain? Anyway, looks like Han-Ram is doing more than just working out.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/20/2015 8:43:22 PM)

What makes you think he, or anyone else, ever stopped? I doubt many have.

People point to the offensive numbers (which are a terrible way to evaluate use because pitchers make even more sense than hitters to use performance enhancers), but those can easily be explained by changes in ballparks (many have expanded fields), probably the best pitching top to bottom that we've ever seen in baseball history (look how many high 90's guys are going now), and the changes in the strike zone over the last several years.

It's just too easy to use. Only the real idiots ever get caught. I still firmly believe that almost all players, in all sports, are using some form of performance enhancers. And have been for many decades now.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/22/2015 9:58:25 AM)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/gregg-zaun-says-physical-abuse-from-cal-ripken-jr--kept-him-in-line-071143606.html




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 9:56:16 AM)

Another aggressive move by a team willing to do what it takes to compete

9:10am: Moncada will receive a $31.5MM signing bonus from the Red Sox, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter links). Sherman adds that the Yankees offered $25MM with a willingness to spend up to $27MM if needed.

Because Boston had already exceeded its international bonus pool — the Sox signed right-handers Chris Acosta and Anderson Espinoza for a combined $3.3MM on July 2 despite having a $188MM signing pool — the team will pay a full 100 percent tax on Moncada’s bonus, bringing the total cost for his services to $63MM.

8:10am: The Red Sox and Cuban infielder Yoan Moncada have reached agreement on a signing bonus in the range of $30MM, reports MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez (via Twitter). Of course, by signing Moncada to a bonus in the $30MM range, the Red Sox will also be paying a luxury tax worth roughly that same amount, making this in total an approximately $60MM expenditure for Boston. On top of that, the Red Sox will now be restricted from signing any international amateur for more than $300K in the 2015-16 and the 2016-17 international signing periods.

Moncada, a 19-year-old switch-hitting infielder, is the most sought-after international prospect in recent history. Said to be a true five-tool talent, scouts have likened his upside to that of Robinson Cano and Chase Utley (in his prime). Prospect specialists at Baseball America, MLB.com, Baseball Prospectus and Fangraphs have all suggested that Moncada would rank in the top five to 15 prospects in Major League Baseball upon signing, which will make him Boston’s new No. 1 prospect. Unlike recent Cuban signings such as Jose Abreu and Rusney Castillo, however, Moncada will likely require at least one season in the minors — possibly two.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 10:14:48 AM)

Holy crap. [:-]

There are many that say he is the best of all the new Cuban wave. And the Sox kept him away from the Yanks, who really needed him and I thought were a shoe-in to sign him. Red Sox are going to be scary good very soon if they can sign/trade for some pitching. And they have a lot of arms coming with a really good system.

Bogaerts/Betts/Castillo/Moncada are all going to be stars IMO. Pedroia/Ortiz/HanRam/Sandoval may just be "help" pieces for that group within 2 years or so. That's crazy. I'd guess in 2016 or so their lineup may look something like:

Betts-CF
Bogaerts-3b/SS
HanRam-LF
Ortiz-DH
Moncada-SS/3b
Sandoval-1b
Pedroia-2b
Castillo-RF
Swihart-C

Lots of positional flexibility with that group too with HanRam/Sandoval/Moncada/Bogaerts.

I think SMF and Dave just threw up in their mouths a little bit.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 11:17:54 AM)

I did.
The only saving grace is that they've missed badly on some things lately.
And it's been enjoyable watching those mistakes. Hope this is another.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:19:01 PM)

Law's take. Some good stuff in here, especially about the system issues in general towards the end. And I think the bolded is hilarious:



Boston's deal with Cuban shortstop Yoan Moncada destroys the previous record for an international amateur free agent, the $8.25 million Arizona gave to right-hander Yoan Lopez earlier this winter. It's a reflection of Moncada's potential upside as an All-Star bat at second or third base and the hope that his current size means he's not that far from the majors.
Yoan Moncada
Twitter@yoanmoncada
Yoan Moncada goes to Boston -- for a price. That price could shift the future of the draft at least as it relates to Cuba.

Moncada is a very physically developed 19-year-old who projects to hit for power from both sides of the plate, a bat that will profile wherever he lands on the diamond. It won't be at shortstop, his “natural” position, as he's already too big for the spot and, if he continues to grow at all, could bulk himself right off the dirt and into an outfield corner, possibly right field. For now, he's a fit at second or third base, but I'd prefer to see him at third as he has the arm strength and won't take as much of a beating as he would at second base. He's an above-average runner despite his size, more like plus when he's fully underway (similar to Puig), quick enough that he might be able to handle center if the infield doesn't work out, and potentially plus all-around on defense in right. His left-handed swing is ahead of his right-handed swing for now. He's very short to the ball with plus bat speed, with excellent body control and strong hands; his right-handed swing is a bit more rigid and he's not likely to have the same plate coverage, struggling to adjust to offspeed stuff when facing live pitching this winter. He's a potential 20 homer/20 steal guy in the near term, although he may peak with more power than that but is a good bet to lose speed as he gets into his mid- to late 20s given his size.

If Moncada were in the 2015 MLB draft, he'd be the first or second pick, both a testament to his current skill set and to the weakness of the draft class, with no position player close to his potential ability and the top college pitcher, Duke's Michael Matuella, missing his last start with forearm tightness. He'd be a top-10 pick in any draft class, given his potential to play somewhere in the infield and hit for average and power; even if you want to cap his ceiling as that of an average regular at second or third, that's at least a $15-million-a-year player, and the Red Sox would recoup most of their investment before Moncada hits his second year of arbitration.

The Red Sox would appear to have a surfeit of position players at positions where Moncada might play, with Hanley Ramirez, Pablo Sandoval, Mookie Betts, Xander Bogaerts, and Rusney Castillo all under contract for at least the next four years, but signing Moncada gives them both depth (in case, say, Castillo doesn't pan out as expected) and extra flexibility to use one of those players to make a trade (e.g., using Betts or Bogaerts to get Cole Hamels). Hanley and/or Pablo could age poorly, or become more injury-prone as they age; perhaps Moncada handles third base in a year or two and pushes Sandoval over to first base – although he might need a crane to do it. The deal also keeps Moncada away from Boston's direct rivals in the Bronx, where Moncada would have been the likely second baseman of the future, perhaps pushing the Yankees to make a deal with 29-year-old Hector Olivera or 21-year-old Andy Ibanez to fill that spot for the next five years. The Yankees don't have a long-term second-base solution in the minors, and their third-base prospects all appear to be over a year away with the risk associated with players who have that much development ahead of them, so Moncada would have been a perfect fit based on organizational need as well as the obvious benefit to signing a player of this caliber.

The Moncada contract and the expected deals for Ibanez and right-handed pitcher Yadier Alvarez will result in significant changes to how the next CBA addresses international free agents, as teams have chosen to ignore the limits placed on their spending by the bonus pools system in the current CBA (designed to deal with 16-year-old players from the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, not 18-21 year old Cuban professionals). The Red Sox won't be able to sign any international amateur free agent until the 2017-18 cycle, and had to pay a 100% tax on the bonus they gave Moncada, all penalties for exceeding their bonus allotment, to which Boston appears to have responded, “Feh, it's only money.”

If you thought MLB might ease up on its push for an international draft, this contract should dispel those delusions. Any system that allows the free flow of money from owners to players is a target for MLB in labor negotiations, and you can bet they'll try to stanch this particular torrent by rolling Cuban amateurs into either a new international draft that covers all so-called “July 2nd” players or into a single worldwide draft that includes all amateur players regardless of their nations of origin.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:19:24 PM)

There really is no point to not having an international draft at this point, especially since Cuba is now open.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:25:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

There really is no point to not having an international draft at this point, especially since Cuba is now open.



You wonder how the MLBPA will want to handle this. Wonder if the drafted guys would prefer an I-draft so these other guys don't get $$ they're after.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:28:13 PM)

You would think. It's really completely unfair that a guy like Moncada can get whatever he wants on the free market, but an American 18-22 year old like Strasburg is completely limited by the draft slotting system.

It either needs to be completely open to the free market and the draft abandoned (which will never happen) or everyone needs to be in a new international draft. Just as it is in basketball.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:39:42 PM)

To illustrate the point:

Rusney Castillo was signed by the Sox for 6 years/$72M. Jose Abreu: 6 years/$68M. Moncada will get even more than either of them, by a good margin probably.

Moncada's bonus was $31.5M. Last year's top draft pick signed, Tyler Kolek, got a bonus of $6M, and would be extremely lucky to make $72M in his first 8 years in his organization. 1-2 years in the minors, at least, plus 6 years of team control, 3 of which are pre-arb, and 3 of which are arbitration years. There's something wrong with that system.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:41:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

To illustrate the point:

Rusney Castillo was signed by the Sox for 6 years/$72M. Jose Abreu: 6 years/$68M. Moncada will get even more than either of them, by a good margin probably.

Moncada's bonus was $31.5M. Last year's top draft pick signed, Tyler Kolek, got a bonus of $6M. There's something wrong with that system.



Especially when you pile on this:


FEB. 23: The total value of the contract is now believed to exceed $1.5 billion, and it also contains an equity stake in the network, Piecoro writes in a followup piece. Piecoro spoke to D-Backs CEO Derrick Hall, who said that while the team stands to benefit financially, there won’t be a sudden increase in spending late in the offseason. The Diamondbacks have been spending this offseason under the assumption that this deal would be completed, Hall explained. While there’s a signing bonus with the contract, increased rights fees won’t kick in until next year.

Hall called the contract “game-changing” for his team, adding: “It puts us on par with a lot of our colleagues. Any increase in revenues, as we’ve said in the past, will go directly toward our (organization). It will help the franchise. It will help the product on the field.”

FEB. 18: The Diamondbacks and FOX Sports Arizona have agreed to a new television contract that is believed to be worth more than one billion dollars in total, reports Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic.

Arizona’s current television contract, which expires at season’s end, has an average annual vaue of about $31MM per year, Piecoro notes. He adds that the new contract is believed to at least triple that amount. It’s unclear how much the total value of the contract is, because the length of the deal isn’t currently known, but club officials have recently said they were discussing lengths in the 15- to 20-year range. Piecoro reports that there are indications that the new deal is indeed in line with those previously discussed parameters, which would suggest the total value is at least $1.4 billion.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:43:18 PM)

Crazy TV money.

Just nuts.

I wonder how all this stuff will end.

Everything goes up in price/down in value(spend more, get less at the grocery store)

And my pay check isn't keeping pace. Not even remotely close.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:44:10 PM)

Was just about to post that, Ed. And that tacks on to what I was saying about the Twins' laughable deal signed just a couple years ago. The D'Backs are going to make $75-100M every year for the next 15-20 years on TV. And they're a big market, but not exactly New York. The Twins, meanwhile, will make $29M/year in their new deal, signed just 2-3 years ago. Whoever negotiated that should be strung up and shot.




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 1:49:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Crazy TV money.

Just nuts.

I wonder how all this stuff will end.

Everything goes up in price/down in value(spend more, get less at the grocery store)

And my pay check isn't keeping pace. Not even remotely close.


It's sports. It's where all the advertisers are going because it's the only reason you need a television anymore, is for live sports. You can watch any movie, TV show, etc. on other devices without an issue. Sports are the only reason I still have cable, and that will likely change soon too. I have NFL Rewind, I have MLBTV, neither of which requires a cable package. I can get NBA TV. As soon as ESPN gives a reasonable non-cable package (Duke games), I'll be out of the cable game as well.

The cable companies are going to keep paying networks big bucks because they know its their biggest draw for subscribers now, and the advertisers know it's their biggest market too (you can TiVO everything else, but a lot of times you want to watch a sporting event live). So the money has just gotten out of control for it.

I do think it's time to reward the "team control" players more. The average major league player is going to spend 10-12 years (4-6 years minors, 6 years MLB team control) before they get freedom and the ability to make their market value paycheck. Compare that to the NBA or NFL where it's 4-5 years (no minor leagues).




Phil Riewer -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 2:01:55 PM)

Odds are pretty good that the twins will opt of their agreement after 5 years (in 2016) and get a better deal like other teams......




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 2:03:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Odds are pretty good that the twins will opt of their agreement after 5 years (in 2016) and get a better deal like other teams......


Do they have that option? I didn't think they did.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/23/2015 2:29:45 PM)

36 year old Beltre already working on 2016 season

2:11pm: Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that in exchange for guaranteeing the option in advance, Beltre has agreed to juggle his salaries a bit (Twitter link). Beltre will now earn $16MM in 2015 instead of $18MM, while his 2016 salary will jump from $16MM to $18MM.

1:07pm: The Rangers announced today that they have exercised their 2016 option on Adrian Beltre in advance, meaning that he will be guaranteed $16MM. The Rangers had the ability to void the option if Beltre didn’t reach 600 plate appearances in 2015, but GM Jon Daniels said over the weekend that he was considering removing the clause and locking in Beltre’s salary, as he didn’t want the clause to become a storyline.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/24/2015 8:09:15 AM)

Apparently, there was not much of a market for Joba


7:54am: Chamberlain can earn up to $500K with the same incentive scale that he had on his previous one-year deal with the Tigers, tweets MLB.com’s Jason Beck. Per Cot’s Contracts, that included an additional $100K for reaching 35, 40, 45, 50 and 55 appearances.

7:33am: Chamberlain will receive a $1MM base salary plus incentives, tweets Rosenthal.

6:50am: The Tigers have reached an agreement on a one-year, Major League deal with reliever Joba Chamberlain, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Chamberlain, a client of Excel Sports Management’s Jim Murray, was spotted in Tigers Spring Training camp this morning, notes Rosenthal.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (2/25/2015 4:29:45 PM)

Los Angeles Angels outfielder Josh Hamilton is meeting with Major League Baseball officials in New York on Wednesday about a disciplinary issue, reports the Los Angeles Times.

The Times reports that the team is "bracing for possible penalties." Angels general manager Jerry Dipoto told the Times that Hamilton is in New York for a meeting with league officials, but did not say why.

Hamilton is currently rehabbing his shoulder in Houston after undergoing surgery earlier this month. The 33-year-old is expected to be out for six to eight weeks and is doubtful for Opening Day.




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