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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/3/2016 9:56:16 PM)

With his home run tonight, Carlos Beltran reached 1,500 career runs, to go with 1,508 career RBIs. He's one of just 37 players to reach both milestones. He's been a Gold Glove center fielder. He's been one of the most efficient basestealers (311 SB, 49 CS). He's been great in the postseason. Sounds like a Hall of Famer to me.





SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/4/2016 11:09:06 PM)

Be careful Matt ........


A Philadelphia Phillies fan whose conduct caused home plate umpire Bob Davidson to halt Tuesday’s game at Citizens Bank Park has come forward to defend himself.

Jeremy Lichterman, a 43-year-old man from Delaware, insists he wasn’t drunk, as alleged, and insists his behavior didn’t warrant an ejection, much less the national attention garnered (video of the incident here).

Davidson in his postgame comments suggested that the now-identified Lichterman was drunk and made a homophobic comment that made it necessary to “throw him out.” The comment that apparently prompted Davidson to stop the game is believed to be: “I own property on 69th Street. You can come over and suck.”

Lichterman came forward and identified himself in an interview with the Philly Voice. He insists Davidson erred in interpreting both the nature and substance of his heckling.

“I was heckling the Giants’ players, the guys that were warming up on deck,” Lichterman said. “I was saying, ‘You suck,’ to guys in the on-deck circle. I saw they had one guy who had a horrible haircut, so I told him I had a good barber on 69th Street that could cut your hair. That was basically it.”

Lichterman insists he wasn’t given any warning before being approached by security. He says he felt it best to leave on his own instead of causing a bigger scene.

“I figured to nip in the butt, no big deal,” he said. “I left, because I didn’t want to create any more of a disturbance here. It’s embarrassing because of how this thing blew up.”

Lichterman added that his wife is “mortified” about the situation. He also said he apologized and stopped heckling once a man with two children sitting in front him asked him to tone it down.

“The last thing I meant to do was offend anyone,” he said. “What amazes me is how much of a big deal this is. Think about it. I went to a baseball game and yelled, ‘You suck.’ I think there’s been more offensive things done before.”




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 8:33:29 AM)

The Cubs should have been winning titles year after year, if you figure in home-field advantages.

A dugout that is about the right size for high school kids. A bench, room enough for one person to walk through, and the bullpen phone. And that's it.

A visitor's clubhouse that is slightly bigger than my living room. Enough room for little cubicles, and an eating table that is...a 6' folding table. yes they get drinks and stuff...but it's not much.

I toured Wrigley yesterday. it has charm and all that, but the Cubbies have barely upgraded a few areas.

Pressbox is embarrassing. Media dining area is slightly better than that.

Hilarious. Apparently there are plenty of dopes out there. Got to go on the field, right in front of the Cubs dugout. First things said,

"When you go on the field, please don't take any grass or any of the dirt."

Really? [&:]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 12:26:39 PM)

Tex reportedly will be retiring today.

NYY is making itself over rather quickly. It CAN be done with the right leadership.




Lynn G. -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 1:19:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Be careful Matt ........


A Philadelphia Phillies fan whose conduct caused home plate umpire Bob Davidson to halt Tuesday’s game at Citizens Bank Park has come forward to defend himself.

Jeremy Lichterman, a 43-year-old man from Delaware, insists he wasn’t drunk, as alleged, and insists his behavior didn’t warrant an ejection, much less the national attention garnered (video of the incident here).

Davidson in his postgame comments suggested that the now-identified Lichterman was drunk and made a homophobic comment that made it necessary to “throw him out.” The comment that apparently prompted Davidson to stop the game is believed to be: “I own property on 69th Street. You can come over and suck.”

Lichterman came forward and identified himself in an interview with the Philly Voice. He insists Davidson erred in interpreting both the nature and substance of his heckling.

“I was heckling the Giants’ players, the guys that were warming up on deck,” Lichterman said. “I was saying, ‘You suck,’ to guys in the on-deck circle. I saw they had one guy who had a horrible haircut, so I told him I had a good barber on 69th Street that could cut your hair. That was basically it.”

Lichterman insists he wasn’t given any warning before being approached by security. He says he felt it best to leave on his own instead of causing a bigger scene.

“I figured to nip in the butt, no big deal,” he said. “I left, because I didn’t want to create any more of a disturbance here. It’s embarrassing because of how this thing blew up.”

Lichterman added that his wife is “mortified” about the situation. He also said he apologized and stopped heckling once a man with two children sitting in front him asked him to tone it down.

“The last thing I meant to do was offend anyone,” he said. “What amazes me is how much of a big deal this is. Think about it. I went to a baseball game and yelled, ‘You suck.’ I think there’s been more offensive things done before.”



What a complete and total idiot, and not just because he said "nip it in the butt" which is NOT the way the expression goes.

I'd be mortified if I was his wife too. Even if all he did was what he admitted to, he acted like a 10 year old.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 1:53:37 PM)

I LMAO at hecklers. We need more of them. As long as they keep it clean.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 7:10:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Tex reportedly will be retiring today.

NYY is making itself over rather quickly. It CAN be done with the right leadership.

All great moves lately




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 8:23:30 PM)

Nats and Giants big weekend series
Two first place clubs.
Things are heating up. My Giants are scuffling, but no one in their division is stepping it up much.




ronhextall -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 8:26:55 PM)

Only three other switch hitters in history of baseball have a higher OPS than Tex.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 8:28:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Only three other switch hitters in history of baseball have a higher OPS than Tex.

Helluva force when healthy




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 8:43:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Nats and Giants big weekend series
Two first place clubs.
Things are heating up. My Giants are scuffling, but no one in their division is stepping it up much.


Strasburg is what, 15-1

unreal


And yes, shell out the money and sign Ramos.

Please




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 8:44:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Nats and Giants big weekend series
Two first place clubs.
Things are heating up. My Giants are scuffling, but no one in their division is stepping it up much.


Strasburg is what, 15-1

unreal


And yes, shell out the money and sign Ramos.

Please

God, that acquisition would be great for us, imo.
We've gotten pretty decent production from SuziQ.
That can't continue much longer. Bring WILSON! back home. Please.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 11:23:06 PM)

Hey Matty! You saw a fun one tonight!
Walk off!




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2016 11:47:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hey Matty! You saw a fun one tonight!
Walk off!

Yup, a no-doubter by the Gatorade cooler punching bag man!




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/6/2016 8:55:54 AM)

After veteran starter Tim Lincecum allowed six runs against the Mariners Friday, Angels manager Mike Scioscia wouldn’t commit to Lincecum taking another turn in the rotation, MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez writes. “Our goal is to get him right,” Scioscia says, although he adds that “we haven’t really digested some things.” The Angels had committed more strongly to Lincecum after he struggled against the Astros two starts ago.

It’s unclear what further plans the Angels might have for Lincecum if they remove him from the rotation. Speculatively, releasing him would seem to be an option, although perhaps a move to the bullpen could also be a possibility. Gonzalez notes that if Lincecum does leave the rotation, Jhoulys Chacin and Nate Smith are candidates to take his place. The Angels, of course, are dealing with a long list of pitcher injuries, with Garrett Richards, C.J. Wilson, Andrew Heaney and Nick Tropeano all on the DL.

It’s not surprising that the Angels might consider moving on from Lincecum, whose tenure with the team has not gone well, to put it mildly. Since signing in May after returning from hip surgery and debuting with the big-league team in June, he’s made nine starts and posted a 9.16 ERA in 38 1/3 innings, with 7.5 K/9 and 5.4 BB/9. He’s allowed at least four runs in all but two of those starts. His velocity is in the high 80s




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 10:50:26 AM)

ARod is retiring as a Yankee Friday.

Lincecum DFA by the Angels.

As Cashman noted in the NY ARod press conference, the game usually tells players when they're done.




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 4:49:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

ARod is retiring as a Yankee Friday.

Lincecum DFA by the Angels.

As Cashman noted in the NY ARod press conference, the game usually tells players when they're done.


Unfortunately, in the case of Bartlett and Kubel, they didn't listen - neither did the Twins.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 6:20:50 PM)

And Guerrier. What an embarrassing season that was.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 8:55:30 PM)

Ramos' homer the difference in Nats' win

Wilson Ramos took Madison Bumgarner deep for the only run of the game in the Nationals' win over the Giants.





sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 9:03:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Ramos' homer the difference in Nats' win

Wilson Ramos took Madison Bumgarner deep for the only run of the game in the Nationals' win over the Giants.




Ramos sucks [&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 9:10:37 PM)

Ichiro reaches 3000 in Molly-Style, with a triple!




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 9:33:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Ichiro reaches 3000 in Molly-Style, with a triple!



only what the 4th non-American to get to 3K

Carew
Clemente
Palmeiro

And Ichiro




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 9:40:40 PM)

I think it's pretty sweet Ichiro has been a key part of the Fish trying to chase a playoff spot, at age 42.

Probably was expected to be an extra, occasional starter. Nope

If all the Marlins' hitters were like Ichiro Suzuki, there would be no such thing as a Marlins hitting coach. “I don’t expect too much from a hitting coach,” says Ichiro, who at age 42 entered Sunday hitting .318. “I’m not out there asking him to do anything special for me. I just have a routine, and he can help me with that. Flipping balls to me in the cage—he does that. He definitely has that down.”

The coach has no problem quietly soft tossing from his knees, even though he is no ordinary coach. “At this age? Ichiro does his own thing,” says the 52-year-old Barry Bonds, hired last off-season by Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria after nine years in exile as a BALCO-tainted untouchable. “You don’t have to work with a guy that great. Just sit there and watch him, watch what he does, his preparation. His IQ’s off the charts. What can you teach him?”

In other words, one legend coaches the other by letting him be himself. While Bonds became baseball's single-season and career home run king during his 22-year major league career, Ichiro has etched his name in baseball's record book primarily with a wave of hard-struck singles. In 2004 he set a new single-season hits record with 262, a record 225 of which were singles, including the record-breaker. On Sunday Ichiro became the 30th member of the 3,000 hit club with a triple in Denver, ending a long slog to the milestone in which he had gone just 5-for-31 entering the day since a three-hit afternoon on July 17.

Milestones mean little to Ichiro, however. Playing means a lot. Though he is now the game’s oldest position player, he is not close to retiring.

“Why would you put a limit on yourself?” he asks on a recent afternoon, as 3,000 approached. “If you’re healthy, if your mental state is right, why would you put a limit on how long you want to play? Obviously, it’s a game where sometimes you don’t get to decide how long. But if you can, and you’re healthy, why would anybody not want to?”

It’s a rare moment of insight into his psyche. Ichiro is among the most famous of baseball stars, but also, perhaps, its most unknowable, even 16 years after he arrived from Japan. Some of that stems from a language barrier. Though teammates say he can both understand and speak English—and is a master of idiomatic expletives—he still uses an interpreter, Allen Turner. It is in part a way to ensure that he is perfectly understood, but it also affords him privacy. His role in the world is to play baseball, and it is through baseball that he communicates.

As you watch him begin his intricately choreographed routine, it is tempting to view him as a surgeon, dispassionately and compulsively readying his body and his instruments for another day’s procedures. He enters the clubhouse at precisely 4 PM, wearing a crisp white short-sleeved shirt, a skinny black tie and dark jeans with six-inch cuffs rolled up to his knees, out of which he quickly changes. He lint rolls his arm bands. He foam rolls the knots out of his back. He applies eye drops, and moisturizes his hands and wrists using a cream from a tiny bottle. He removes his bats from their custom-made hard case and holds each up to the clubhouse’s fluorescent light for a full minute, examining them for imperfections that only he can see, wiping off barely perceptible smudges with his gloved thumb.

He pulls down his black Marlins hat from the shelf above his locker and examines it, too, cutting off any loose threads. Then he does something unexpected. He brings the cap’s crown to his face, buries his nose in it, and deeply inhales.

It is then that you realize that Ichiro is not doing any of this by rote, because he is someone who has played baseball 360 days a year since he was nine and it is all that he knows. He is doing it out of love, a love that is renewed each day.

Barry Bonds loves baseball, too. That’s what people who were skeptical of the Marlins’ hiring of him—who doubted that he had the desire to once again endure baseball’s grinding schedule, and wondered if he possessed the patience to work with callow players who know a fraction as much about hitting as he does—didn’t understand. Even though he had become the game’s leading villain, he never wanted to leave in the first place. In 2007, at 42—the same age as Ichiro is now—he hit 28 home runs and led baseball in both walks and on base percentage. But no team would sign him. Too much of a distraction, they decided. So he was done, 65 hits shy of 3,000. “I didn’t get a job,” he says, “and that’s pretty much it.”

Last December, he got one, and by mid-July he still seems energized by it, slim and bright-eyed. “I love it,” he said recently, of his new gig. “It’s really nice. Having a great time. It’s what I’ve done my whole life, so my body doesn’t know anything different. It’s not that much of a grind to me when it’s something you like to do.”

Bonds’s new role took some getting used to. “It’s almost like you wish you were playing, because it’s almost boring not to play,” he says. “That’s the only part that’s an adjustment, because I played all the time. When I got here, and was sitting on the bench, I felt at first like I was just not a starter. ‘Man, I’m a bench player now’—at first, when I was in spring training. I had to get over that feeling, wanting to grab a bat and get out there and do it. ‘Jesus Christ, I can do this. What the hell.’ But I can’t, really. Not anymore.”

Bonds says that he could, in theory, still add to his total of 762 homers. “I can swing a baseball bat and hit a ball over the fence even now,” he says. The ability to hit a ball never leaves the great ones—not him, and it won’t leave Ichiro, either. “I can still hit, and he’s never gonna stop hitting,” says Bonds. “He’ll always be able to hit.” It’s the capacity to do so day in and day out that eventually disappears.

On June 15, Ichiro slapped a ninth-inning double against the Padres for his 4,257th career hit, including those he compiled in his nine seasons in Japan. Some contended that this made him baseball’s all-time hit king, passing Pete Rose. To Bonds, that was absurd. “Pete Rose is the best hitter in baseball,” he says. “Period. Bar none. Just erase your thoughts about it. The argument’s just ridiculous to us as ballplayers. As far as Ichiro goes, to be able to accomplish that feat between the two countries, it’s outstanding. It’s just phenomenal, what he’s done.”

Loria, the Marlins’ owner, made his fortune as an art dealer, and until not long ago it appeared as if he might be more interested in assembling a gallery of baseball masterpieces than building a winner: Ichiro, and new manager Don Mattingly each won an MVP award, and Bonds won seven during their impressive careers. But Miami, coming off six straight losing seasons, entered Sunday at 58-52 and tied for the second National League wild-card spot, and it is in part because that trio has provided the club with credible leadership that it has long lacked.

Ichiro’s on-field renaissance has helped, as he currently boasts his highest batting average since 2009. “He’s been balling out this year, which is fun to watch,” says his 24-year-old teammate, Christian Yelich. “It’s nice to see that he’s still playing well, and not just limping to the finish line to get to 3,000.” But the fact is that there is no room for him in the starting lineup most days, not with a trio of burgeoning young stars—Yelich, 25-year-old Marcell Ozuna and 26-year-old Giancarlo Stanton—who have made the Marlins’ outfield one of the league's most potent. Still, says Mattingly, Ichiro's presence is crucial.

“Young guys, in general, they’re not very regimented,” says Mattingly. “They’re all over the place. They have a good game and they stay with it. They have a bad game and they start changing stuff. Ich is a great example from the standpoint that these guys know how long he’s played. They watch his body and his work ethic. He’s so routine oriented, and those routines don’t change. I think he’s so good for our team, from the standpoint of demonstrating the work that it takes to be good for a long time.”

Part of Ichiro's routine includes hitting nearly as many home runs in batting practice as does Stanton, who outweighs him by almost 70 pounds. “I don’t understand his B.P.,” says the powerful Stanton, this year’s All-Star Home Run Derby champ. “Breaking down the swing, I understand it. He stays back, everything’s precise and perfect. But the way his practice is compared to his games is pretty crazy to see. In the game, he’s controlled —boom, boom, wherever it's pitched he's gonna smack it that way. In BP, everything is backspun and pulled, with the exact same swing. I don’t get it!”

The principle, though, is simple: Discover what works for you, even if it doesn’t make sense to others, and stick with it. That is what Bonds has instilled in his team’s young hitters, too—particularly Yelich, who is batting .322 with 10 homers, 54 RBIs and an .892 OPS that is nearly 100 points higher than last year's mark, and Ozuna, who struggled so badly last season that he was demoted to the minors but who this year made the All-Star Game. Neither has felt any trepidation about approaching Bonds for help, despite his stature.

“This guy understands hitting and baseball, and his craft, at an extremely high level,” says Yelich. “He’s been able to pass that along to some of us. It’s nice when you’re struggling a little bit to be able to go to one of the best hitters that ever lived. And if that doesn’t work, you can go talk to Don Mattingly. And if that doesn’t work, you can go talk to Ichiro.”

“And if if you can’t figure it then?” interjects veteran infielder Chris Johnson, from a nearby locker. “Just quit.”

“Yeah,” says Yelich. “If you can’t figure it out then, go play soccer or something.”

In 1995, when he was 22 and still six years from leaving Japan for the Mariners, Ichiro came to the United States on a tour sponsored by Upper Deck. He met Michael Jordan in Chicago, and then traveled to Cincinnati to have dinner with Ken Griffey Sr. and Ken Griffey Jr. There was only one place to which the Griffeys would bring a visiting dignitary to eat, particularly one from Japan: their favorite restaurant, Benihana.

At the time very few people in the States had any idea who Ichiro was, but one who did was the Griffeys’ preferred Benihana chef, a man named Hiro, who was known at the restaurant by the nickname Yummy Yummy. “Hiro was in hog heaven,” recalls Ken Sr. “He was so excited, he was cutting things wrong, he was missing his shrimp tail flips.” At the end of the meal, Ichiro was gracious, but he also had to be honest with his hosts. “You know,” he said, with Hiro interpreting. “This is nothing like how we eat in Japan.”

Griffey Jr. was traded from the Mariners to the Reds before the 2000 season, one year before Ichiro arrived, and the two wouldn’t become teammates until Junior’s Seattle swansong began in 2009. Every day, during a particular part of Ichiro’s pre-game stretching routing, Griffey would jump on his teammate and tickle him. “When he’d get in a certain position, I’d lock on him, and he’d start sweating,” says Junior. “He’s extremely ticklish, to the point where if you touch him he starts to twitch. He’s got the body of a 12-year-old gymnast, is what I tell him. He just laughs.”

A new country, mischievously assaultive teammates: none of it fazed Ichiro. He blew past 200 hits every season between 2001 and '10. “People say I’m an explorer, a pioneer, whatever,” he once said. “That’s other people’s opinion. That’s not why I came over here. I came over here to play baseball.”

Now, though, he is faced with a new, more ominous distraction: aging. That, too, has yet to derail him. “As he gets older, you’re not going to get what he was 10 years ago, but he’s squeezing out every bit he can at his age,” says Stanton. “He doesn’t take days off. He was built—he was created—to do this. And no one else can.”

Age, though, will come for him, as it did for Bonds. Eventually, after a couple of years of joblessness, Bonds realized that even if a team happened to call, he could no longer answer. “It’s not a pride thing, but a common sense thing,” he says. “I couldn’t give what I feel I should be able to give to the game of baseball. You have to step away and allow some else to have their time, their turn. You can’t be ashamed of that. It’s part of life.”

Ichiro, whose contract has a $2 million club option for next season, has said that he’d like to play until he is at least 50. For him, though, there is little point in looking that far ahead, just as there is little point in looking back to all of the hits that have added up to 3,000. What matters to him is maximizing each day. “Every day is a process for me, making sure there’s nothing about which I can turn around and say, ‘I wish I’d done this,’” he says. “That’s why I prepare myself. That’s why I’m out there doing things every single day. It’s so that I don’t have a time later on when I look back with regret. I’m taking that out of the equation.”

He also knows that nothing will be given to him, even though he is a certain Hall of Famer. Next year’s job, even tomorrow’s job, isn’t assured. “I understand, completely, that it’s on me,” he says. “I need to come out year after year and perform, to play the next year. That’s my approach. I want people to just judge me for how I play. Not an age, not a number. How I’m doing today, how I’m moving today. That’s what I would like people to judge me on.”

So he pushes forward, maintaining his gymnast’s body, examining his equipment, inhaling the wooly odor of his hats. One day, as it was for his hitting coach, it will all be over. Then, perhaps, he’ll enjoy the sum of his accomplishments, his thousands of hits. But when you truly love something, you never want it to end. Ichiro is doing everything within his considerable powers to ensure he has as many baseball tomorrows as he can, and that 3,000 hits represents only a marker on his life’s road, and not a destination.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 9:48:53 PM)

Have really enjoyed him
A special athlete

We went to his first game in the MetroDome ... half the outfield was full of his countrymen and they were there for him, he was their hero.
He was like Elvis to them, we weren't really aware that he was that big of a deal, but found out soon.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2016 9:51:01 PM)

I always remember somebody telling the story about how he often would out-homer the big boppers during AS game cage sessions.
Love guys like that. Legends.




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